Are there ANY Real Robots that can beat a main Super Robot?
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By "main", I mean the hero of the series pilots it.
I dunno. As impressive as some Real Robots can be, sending one against a Super Robot is basically the equivalent of having someone from Naruto fight a DBZ character.
Oh, and before anyone says it, the Gundams in G Gundam are technically classified as Super Robots, because it WAS a Super Robot show at its core.
I dunno. As impressive as some Real Robots can be, sending one against a Super Robot is basically the equivalent of having someone from Naruto fight a DBZ character.
Oh, and before anyone says it, the Gundams in G Gundam are technically classified as Super Robots, because it WAS a Super Robot show at its core.
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No that is like asking a normal hero to beat up a super hero, ok admittedly John McClain is badassed enough to take on most "superheroes" but he is superhero grade in his own right (reality bending luck....).
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wait....what does Ideon count as technically?
Because he's a contender for the strongest mecha in the universe.
Because he's a contender for the strongest mecha in the universe.
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Kais86 wrote...
Ideon is a plot device.so is MEGAS, but at least Ideon takes itself seriously as a series.
Regardless, Ideon can do it.
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Kais86 wrote...
I respect that Megas doesn't take itself seriously.It's a parody. It's not supposed to.
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Correct yourself, it was an AWESOME parody. The characters were far more real than anything you would find in anime.
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Kais86 wrote...
Correct yourself, it was an AWESOME parody. The characters were far more real than anything you would find in anime.I know. My best friend when I lived in New Jersey was just like Coop (except not as....big).
Regardless, MEGAS can't be used because it's classified as a Super Robot, not a Real Robot.
For those who don't know, the difference between RR and SR has nothing to do with their strength. There are some RR out there that can beat some SR.
A Real Robot is grounded in pseudo-science and has to adhere to the physics of its universe. They are usually controlled by a distinct military, and are mass-produced for warfare.
A Super Robot is the exact opposite. To quote TV Tropes
Super Robots make up the "rubber science" aspect of giant robots. Powered by some variety of Applied Phlebotinum, the Super Robot can do anything that is required of it, including:
* Change shape in a way that is clearly impossible.
* Gain or lose mass, including in the form of summoning weapons from nowhere.
* Gain power the more fired up the pilot becomes.
...among other abilities.
Super Robot shows are typically personified by "Love/Courage/Compassion/Friendship/Righteous Anger/Insert-Positive-Emotion-Here Conquers All", and almost always have at least one character that is Hot Blooded, though there are certain notable exceptions... mostly those directed by Yoshiyuki "Kill 'em All" Tomino, to whom anyone can die is less a possibility than a life philosophy. Take a look at the Wikipedia entry for Space Runaway Ideon sometime if you doubt this. Super Robots tend towards idealism on the Sliding Scale Of Idealism Versus Cynicism.
A handy checklist to see if a mecha is a Super Robot or a Real Robot:
* The robot is sentient.
* The robot has highly improbable or outright impossible Transformation Sequences.
* The robot can grow in size and creates and dismisses weapons more or less at will.
* The robot uses two or more of the following weapons:
o Rocket Punch
o Eye Beams
o Chest Blaster
o A ridiculously-large melee weapon (by human standards, most likely normal-sized on the robot's scale)
o A Drill
* The pilot always screams the name of the attacks.
* The show's title has "Muteki" ("Invincible") in it somewhere.
* The robot's face is flexible and capable of things such as opening and closing its mouth.
* The joints are covered by what seems to be solid metal, yet are still capable of the full range of human mobility.
* Three or more separately piloted vehicles combine to form the robot.
* The robot is one-of-a-kind and/or is the only line of defense between the earth (or other place to be defended) and the invading hordes.
* The robot (or part of the robot) can only be piloted by one specific person, due either to a "brain-scan security system", a "unique and special power", or "destiny".
* The robot was created by the pilot's father, grandfather, or uncle.
* The robot was created by an ancient civilization to battle the series's antagonists.
* You (or maybe your parents) recognize the robot from a Shogun Warrior toy.
* All of the robots in the show, whether or not they're mass-manufactured, are unique designs based on some common theme (usually different kinds of animals).
* Change shape in a way that is clearly impossible.
* Gain or lose mass, including in the form of summoning weapons from nowhere.
* Gain power the more fired up the pilot becomes.
...among other abilities.
Super Robot shows are typically personified by "Love/Courage/Compassion/Friendship/Righteous Anger/Insert-Positive-Emotion-Here Conquers All", and almost always have at least one character that is Hot Blooded, though there are certain notable exceptions... mostly those directed by Yoshiyuki "Kill 'em All" Tomino, to whom anyone can die is less a possibility than a life philosophy. Take a look at the Wikipedia entry for Space Runaway Ideon sometime if you doubt this. Super Robots tend towards idealism on the Sliding Scale Of Idealism Versus Cynicism.
A handy checklist to see if a mecha is a Super Robot or a Real Robot:
* The robot is sentient.
* The robot has highly improbable or outright impossible Transformation Sequences.
* The robot can grow in size and creates and dismisses weapons more or less at will.
* The robot uses two or more of the following weapons:
o Rocket Punch
o Eye Beams
o Chest Blaster
o A ridiculously-large melee weapon (by human standards, most likely normal-sized on the robot's scale)
o A Drill
* The pilot always screams the name of the attacks.
* The show's title has "Muteki" ("Invincible") in it somewhere.
* The robot's face is flexible and capable of things such as opening and closing its mouth.
* The joints are covered by what seems to be solid metal, yet are still capable of the full range of human mobility.
* Three or more separately piloted vehicles combine to form the robot.
* The robot is one-of-a-kind and/or is the only line of defense between the earth (or other place to be defended) and the invading hordes.
* The robot (or part of the robot) can only be piloted by one specific person, due either to a "brain-scan security system", a "unique and special power", or "destiny".
* The robot was created by the pilot's father, grandfather, or uncle.
* The robot was created by an ancient civilization to battle the series's antagonists.
* You (or maybe your parents) recognize the robot from a Shogun Warrior toy.
* All of the robots in the show, whether or not they're mass-manufactured, are unique designs based on some common theme (usually different kinds of animals).
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I knew Megas was a Super robot, normal robot's aren't really classified as plot devices, the one exception I've seen was the original Wing Zero unit that thing was always called upon when they needed a gundam for one thing or another, that and it refused to explode until Hiro got out.
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Kais86 wrote...
I knew Megas was a Super robot, normal robot's aren't really classified as plot devices, the one exception I've seen was the original Wing Zero unit that thing was always called upon when they needed a gundam for one thing or another, that and it refused to explode until Hiro got out.No, you misunderstand the concept. The robots themselves aren't plot devices. It's that they are powered/controlled by Applied Phlebotinum.
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How about Dis Astranagant and Neo Granzon from Super Robot Wars. I think both are overpowered reals.
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As Temcor says, both Astranagant and Dis Astranagant can take out Super Robots due to Infinity Cylinder and Ain Soph Aur. Asides from that, Naked Jehuty and Aumaan Anubis come to mind. Also, V2 Assault Buster and ∀ Gundam can at least take out Mazinger Z, but it's harder for them to deal with higher class Super Robots.
By the way, Ideon is a Super Robot, so you can't really use it. Oddly enough, Granzon is classified as a Real Robot...yeah...
By the way, Ideon is a Super Robot, so you can't really use it. Oddly enough, Granzon is classified as a Real Robot...yeah...