My new toy <3
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I know what you were thinking, but I actually took delivery of this 8gb Samsung P3 earlier today, and I'm lovin' it. It was just under £100 inc. shipping ($159, and stuff is always more expensive here anyway), and while it's no iPod Touch beater, it blows the Nano out of the water. The touch controls aren't as fluid and natural as the Touch, and there are a couple of tiny glitches still, but new firmware is steadily fixing it all. In case you were wondering, the gap under the screen is a touch sensitive pad, which brings up quick controls for music playback when you swipe across it. The sound quality is amazing, the screen is crisp and bright, video (up to 800x600 16:9 I think, inc xvid/divx) looks great, it's packed with features and formats (bluetooth, haptic, audio upscaling, tts, widgets, flash, flac anyone?)...The back is solid, brushed metal and the screen is proper glass, plus the absence of buttons on the sides makes it a sleek little number. And of course, what was the first thing I put on it for testing purposes? :P
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Ooh, very nice. I have been considering getting something like that lately. I think you've made me consider it again. XD
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GHNeko wrote...
That's cool and all...but can it play Crysis?
Yep. It also fires lasers and brings me drinks.
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doswillrule wrote...
GHNeko wrote...
That's cool and all...but can it play Crysis?
Yep. It also fires lasers and brings me drinks.
o wow. dat iz pimp. can i has 1?
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Should of spent an extra 15 Euro and got a Conwon D2 - much better sound quality wise then the p3.
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The P3's sound quality is fantastic, and among current rival players is only beaten by one of the Walkmans (forget which one). The Cowon D2 is good, but too big and bulky for me, and being 2 years old+ is missing some of the features.
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doswillrule wrote...
The P3's sound quality is fantastic, and among current rival players is only beaten by one of the Walkmans (forget which one). The Cowon D2 is good, but too big and bulky for me, and being 2 years old+ is missing some of the features.So you're saying that the P3 is the second best media player sound quality wise?
LOL don't make me laugh there are many players that kick the p3's ass sound quality wise.
Like the Sansa Fuze and Sony X1000.
Defeats the whole purpose if you don't have a pair of good earphones anyways.
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I'm saying among current rivals not all mp3 players, obviously there are those not in direct competition that are better. I disagree about the Sansa Fuze though, honestly every review I have read of the P3 says the sound quality is impeccable. Also, comparing it to the X1000 is hardly fair with the price difference; like I say, that's not a player it is competing with. The P3 is basically an alternative to the Nano and that is what is beats hands down. I will be getting some better headphones shortly, though (although it's not like I'm using the ones that came with it :P).
Hilary Hahn's violin in her renditions of Bach is truly haunting, and the busier highs in The Bangles' "Hazy Shade of Winter" couldn't be more individually clear. Mids across genres are warm and enveloping with the rich, buttery tone we crave in this range. Low-end representation is similarly striking, the bass exceptionally tight and present without being overly forceful (Kanye West's "Heartless" provides the perfect example here). Plus, the P3 gets extraordinarily loud, so it wouldn't be a stretch to hook this MP3 player up to your home audio setup.
CNET wrote...
During preliminary testing, the P3 excelled in every area. Foremost, audio quality is nothing short of stellar--it would not be a stretch to call this an audiophile's MP3 player, especially given the FLAC support. Everything from hip-hop to blues to classical to electronica shines. (It helps that we tested the player with a pair of Shure SE530 earphones.)Hilary Hahn's violin in her renditions of Bach is truly haunting, and the busier highs in The Bangles' "Hazy Shade of Winter" couldn't be more individually clear. Mids across genres are warm and enveloping with the rich, buttery tone we crave in this range. Low-end representation is similarly striking, the bass exceptionally tight and present without being overly forceful (Kanye West's "Heartless" provides the perfect example here). Plus, the P3 gets extraordinarily loud, so it wouldn't be a stretch to hook this MP3 player up to your home audio setup.
Gizmodo wrote...
Samsung's PMPs are some of the best-sounding players out there, and the P3 continues the trend: Bass is full but not overpowering, treble is clear, and mids are focused. Basically, the P3 sounds great, and is powerful enough to drive big Sony MDR headphones while sounding halfway decent in my 16-year-old car's crappy stereo, too. It supports MP3, WMA, OGG, AAC and even FLAC for you lossless-loving audiophiles.
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omg... dude you're basing it of a CNET review? CNET know nearly absolutely nothing about sound. At least show me a review of it from a site that has some credibility.
Now im not saying the P3 is bad sound quality im just saying that you stating that it is the SECOND best media player on the market is ridiculous, sure its in the top 10. And you should be ashamed if you think the P3 is better then the Sansa Clip/Fuze sound quality wise. It is basically the second maybe even the first best media player on the market when it comes to overall sound quality.
Sansa Clip/Fuze
Anythingbutipod.com- SanDisk touts in the press release that the Clip is “…one of the best sounding MP3 players on the market.” I own a majority share of the MP3 players on the market and I would say that statement is pretty accurate.
I discuss in many of my reviews that most consumers will not be able to tell the difference in sound quality since they don’t spend any money on headphones. This is still the case with the Clip: you will not be able to distinguish the sound quality difference if you are using the stock earbuds or modestly upgraded headphones. The difference will, however, be revealed once you plug in a nice set of phones.
On the go I rock a pair of Future Sonics Atrios M5’s ($200 MSRP) and they can reveal a lot about the quality of your audio source, so I demand a player that will keep up. Lately, I have found a good match with the Toshiba Gigabeat T400 and Cowon iAudio 7, being that they have enough clarity and warmth when paired with the Atrios. Those two players, compared to the Clip, had a slight advantage, noticeably with the bit more clarity in the midbass and highs. Keep in mind this comparison was done with very critical listening with 320kbps MP3s along with the use of my Sennheiser HD650’s.
Samsung P3
Now im not saying the P3 is bad sound quality im just saying that you stating that it is the SECOND best media player on the market is ridiculous, sure its in the top 10. And you should be ashamed if you think the P3 is better then the Sansa Clip/Fuze sound quality wise. It is basically the second maybe even the first best media player on the market when it comes to overall sound quality.
Sansa Clip/Fuze
Anythingbutipod.com- SanDisk touts in the press release that the Clip is “…one of the best sounding MP3 players on the market.” I own a majority share of the MP3 players on the market and I would say that statement is pretty accurate.
I discuss in many of my reviews that most consumers will not be able to tell the difference in sound quality since they don’t spend any money on headphones. This is still the case with the Clip: you will not be able to distinguish the sound quality difference if you are using the stock earbuds or modestly upgraded headphones. The difference will, however, be revealed once you plug in a nice set of phones.
On the go I rock a pair of Future Sonics Atrios M5’s ($200 MSRP) and they can reveal a lot about the quality of your audio source, so I demand a player that will keep up. Lately, I have found a good match with the Toshiba Gigabeat T400 and Cowon iAudio 7, being that they have enough clarity and warmth when paired with the Atrios. Those two players, compared to the Clip, had a slight advantage, noticeably with the bit more clarity in the midbass and highs. Keep in mind this comparison was done with very critical listening with 320kbps MP3s along with the use of my Sennheiser HD650’s.
Samsung P3
For the vast majority the sound quality will do more than please. Compared to the P2 its an overall improvement in clarity and overall flatness of the spectrum. Being overly critical I find that its missing a bit or warmth and tends to have a sound stage that’s a little more narrow than the Cowon S9 and Sansa Clip. However, Samsung’s in house sound shaping technology, DNSe 3.0, makes it a little more interesting.
I’m typically not a huge fan of sound enhancing technologies; my complaints being that these enhancements sound too synthetic. The only one I have found to be acceptable is BBE (used in professional studios and typically found on all Cowon players). The third revision of DNSe is a different story. I still don’t find DNSe to be as good as BBE, but in this latest version it is much more natural. For instance there is a “clarity” tweak which opens up that slightly lacking sound stage without the synthetic haze and the equivalent of BBE “MachBass” can bring back some of that low end warmth. In addition there is a 7 band EQ for further sound tweaking.
I’m typically not a huge fan of sound enhancing technologies; my complaints being that these enhancements sound too synthetic. The only one I have found to be acceptable is BBE (used in professional studios and typically found on all Cowon players). The third revision of DNSe is a different story. I still don’t find DNSe to be as good as BBE, but in this latest version it is much more natural. For instance there is a “clarity” tweak which opens up that slightly lacking sound stage without the synthetic haze and the equivalent of BBE “MachBass” can bring back some of that low end warmth. In addition there is a 7 band EQ for further sound tweaking.
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What I meant by 'among rival players' was those in the same price range and with similar features, and not being that interested in mp3 players I can only go on notoriety with review sites. Anyway, those segments only mention the clip, and I'd only read a review of the Fuze out of the two (and thus only actually mentioned the Fuze). In fairness, I'm no music aficionado; I will more than likely never hear the full potential of the P3, because I can't see myself getting top spec headphones. What I said originally (whilst specifying that it was a direct competitor for the similarly priced Nano) was that the sound quality is amazing, and it still is. The touch screen was also a big selling point for me, mainly because it's a bigger screen for video; elsewhere, the Touch was too pricey and I dislike being tied to iTunes etc, and I said the old Cowon is a bit bulky and the new one was again too expensive.
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Fair enough. But the Sansa Clip and Fuze use the exact same motherboard, which means it has the exactly same sound quality. The Fuze is just microSD expandable and a different design.
You are also wrong for using bad review websites and basing an opinion of the product of that alone.
You are also wrong for using bad review websites and basing an opinion of the product of that alone.