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ok, ok. let me put this into perspective for you.

for the first time in my LIFE i have met a sexy girl whos actually interested in me. thought it might have been to good to be true but we're getting to know each other better and its kinda going great. its been a while since i've been here fakku but i need your help! i would really appreciate any insight or advice any of yous have to offer, i wanna try to make the best of this opportunity.

first: she wants to go on a date. not a bf/gf date, from what i gathered it takes about 3 weeks before she can decide whether or not a guy is good dating material. i want to make a good impression! is it to classy to go out for dinner, to suggestive to go to a movie? what are some unconventional ideas that you could think work in this or any kind of situation?

second: it just so happens that shes kinky as hell. if it turns out she likes me as more then a friend i want to be as prepared as possible and play on the cuteness of my virginity lol. that being said, any ideas for when it starts to get physical? im looking at you ziggy =p is there something i should pay attention to, maybe some body language i might not recognize? i think way to far ahead, i know, but you can never be to prepared.

this is my biggest problem right now, im focusing way to hard on the sexual aspect of possibilities... but ive never really had a meaningful relationship before, i dont know what to expect on that front. its just that she tells me everything about her experiences and it feels as though shes insinuating something.

apparently she usually masturbates like crazy but its been three months since her last attempt with a guy and she just can't get horny anymore. had a huge complicated break up with her boyfriend, its a long story. mean while im trying to be as gentlemen like as i can with such an honest girl and tell her to try different things... but then she says that nothing works and she just hasnt been in the mood... like damn, what i sapose to say? 'i got the cure for your blues baby its in my pants'? haha and you don't KNOW the things shes done, i cant help but thinking about it.

so ill ask rather blatantly, help? lol, i really don't know what to do. so far talking with hers been easy... we'll see how that gos, thank you!

okay before I help you I want to say YOU LUCKY BASTERD T_T
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first you need to show her how matrue you are yes go to dinner nothing to fancy but not mcdonalds okay something that makes you not look snobby but not cheap.
a movie is okay but you need to see something she likes if you don't endrue it.
but don't totly surcumb to her needs that just makes you look desprite be yourself the person she will be with in the long run

okay for sex signs I can't really help but if she uses inunendos then hopfully you hit gold but play along and see.

as for her expeance she might try to make you jelous to she how you react! you need to play it cool and you make it seem like you don't care. she wants to be with you and just you so think of that don't be emmberissed try to make it to your likeing don't worry do your best. and have fun.

hope this helps you if you need more help contact me and I'll continue to look here and I will try to help you to the best I can.
good luck

If you do go fancy, and have no idea about what to do, PM me. I am a Maître de in a fancy restaurant.

Since she already opened up to you try to get her number (call or text) or instant messenger ID. People tend to let their guard down when using devices that don't require face to face confrontations.

good call jonoe, i've been lucky enough to use these things to my advantage and they certainly help getting to know her better. the first thing we exchanged when we met was our msn ids, it was only a couple days down the road from there that i got her number.

thanks alot cpok, i'll keep that in mind. i might not want to go to fancy like swordsman said but its gotta have class, im gonna run the possibilities through my head and see what restaurants come to mind. the only negative is that neither of us drive -_- i am working on that though, already put some time into attaining my g2 the past couple of weeks.

hmmm... i never thought of the maturity aspect when she tells me her experience swordsman. ill be honest, its not like i broke down and told her to ride me or anything lol but i said something was hot or a turn on when it was, gave her my prerogative on certain situations and consoled her when it was something negative about her past. maybe ill play the composure card and act like its all old news to me but im gonna keep everything in moderation. im hoping that if i tell her the truth that honest boys will get rewarded :3

i just love that shes very open and accepting, she reminds me of the girl in the 'lets meet by the shore' manga haha. first night we talked on msn she asked me what i liked, i told her anime and video games for the most part and right after she asked 'but do you like anime?' hahaha i thought that was great. she knows i like hentai, my... back door adventures, everything lol and she still hasnt run away, which is why i think shes something else.

i really appreciate the help you guys, you don't know how much it helps. if anybody else wants to give their two cents on the matter thatd be frigen sweet.

I got a good laugh out of the shout out towards me. Thanks for thinkin' of me.



If she wants to go out and spend time with you, but not 'boyfriend/girlfriend' dates, I would assume she just wants to go out without the intimate touching involved. I would wait to see if she does it, if she does any physical touching (hugging, holding hands, etc) then go with it.

Other then that, it could also mean she wants to spend time with a guy but without 'attachments' for a while. Meaning you'll basically be boyfriend/girlfriend without the titles. Just so she can get comfortable again in the setting.

Take her out to eat, ask her where, and she'll play the 'I dunno, where do you want to eat?' card most likely. Just ask her then what her favorite type of food is (Mexican, chinese, italian, etc.) and think of a restaurant based on that.

Are her interests similar to yours? Anime/video games, etc?
If so you could even spend time at home watching anime, playing games or whatever.

Movies are also a good idea, but just keep in mind of what she wants with the date. She may want intimacy, she may not. I would hold out on kissing the first few dates unless she goes in for the kill. Don't keep a distance away from her though. Walk close to her, make her at least feel like she's wanted.

Pay for her side. It doesn't mean you always have to do it in the future, but it's a good amount of brownie points on your side. (A good significant amount at that)

Don't mention you're paying either until you get to the point of paying. Unless when you invite her for something she says she doesn't have the money, then just tell her to not worry about it, that you invited her so it's your treat. She'll probably try to say that's okay, but just tell her to be quiet and let you pay ;p




If she's kinky, she'll probably have a few good things in store for you, but you're gonna have to be patient - unless she makes a move.

There's 2 ways you can look at this:

Yes, you have your urges and excitement from a hot girl whose into you - but she's apparently wanting to wait and tread in the water before jumping in the deep end.

That can be good, because that means she's looking for something serious, and not a fling. She doesn't want to get hurt, and she doesn't want to hurt you. So be patient and let her get comfortable.

If she does seem to move a little faster then you thought, you should ask her if she's sure, that you don't want her feeling like she has to do anything.

That can be good, because it means you've been passing the tests and she's getting more comfortable much faster then she thought she would.

Just be patient, let things run its own course
Good luck with everything

your the best ziggy, thank you so much!!! i don't know what i would do without you, such a thorough answer too. i have to go to work but as soon as im done ill reply to that, i cant thank you enough zig. i think ill make your rep an even 50 ;o

everythings going really well, all the questions i really wanted answered were covered tonight. you were absolutely right ziggy, with her past experiences she wants to act on her feelings but doesnt want to get hurt. i told her that i never want to rush her into anything and i would never be oppressive or overly assertive, i think it really comforted her hearing that. whether or not shes still interested in a relationship i dunno, but we've planned a date for next week and i couldnt be happier.

to answer your question ziggy shes not very fond of anime but she loves games, i've already had her over once to play them. shes intimidating when she plays gta4, she laughs hysterically when she shanks someone to death hahaha. should i play on what i know? she likes crude insulting humor and that kind of shit so im gonna get her to play prototype, i dont think it gets much better then gratuitously mashing your enemies into pulp.

now to the date! its been a lot of fun planning it so far, heres what i have:

-chill at my/her house, play some games and listen to some tunes
-go to the mall, maybe eat there
-go to the movies

im still not sure about food though, if we don't eat at the mall then im not sure where to go. shes been obscure about her likes, just like you said ziggy lol i guess ill play the field and find out what she likes. she eats really healthy most of the time, can anyone recommend a restaurant thats known for that kinda thing?

if, IF we get physical (which im not really worried about now) i will definitely make another post here and ask for all your advice once more. i wish i could do something for all you -_- my loves enough right? and if it turns out nobody could care less about my progress (which i couldnt blame you for) then i might just pm you ziggy, i hope thats ok haha

thanks again!

If she prefers to eat healthy, eat somewhere else then a mall.
Maybe Olive Garden or something?

Physical? interesting :D I would of thought the physical part happens when you guys are chilling at your house. Both of you are watching tv together and you rest your arm around her, then she gets comfortable and you let her lay her head on your shoulder. By then you'll probably know the scent of her shampoo ( I know it's a weird detail but guys remember these things). You cuddle and tease each other with a bit of tickling and some playful biting. Why playful biting? because the using of lips will eventually lead you to the kissing *wink wink*

If you do start kissing remember to use mints not gum, chewing gum makes your breathe stink. She would like to be held so one hand grasping her hip the other supporting her head, and if you play your cards right you'll get to 2nd base d(^^c).

Ok, well it's the 30th now so I might be late and you and your female friend might already be going out or whatever. but here is my .02 cents.

Never, ever, take a girl to the movies unless she suggests it. Why? because your relationship will not make progress if you two are just sitting in the dark not talking for 2 hours. Only go to the movies with a girl you are ALREADY outing out with. Go somewhere fun, you said she likes games? take her to an arcade then, get tickets and get some prizes for her. I had a girlfriend who didn't really play games but she loved it when I surprised her and took her to an arcade, and she wanted to go back almost every weekend. As long as it's fun for both of you and at the same time you can still talk to each other and have a conversation.

Now if it starts to get intimate, there really isn't anything anyone can say to make it all better. You know her better then anyone else here and what she likes, and if she knows your a virgin then I really don't think that she's gonna think your a sex god in bed, we are ALL horrible the first time so don't try and think about that too much but just remember to do the things that she likes, like kissing holding or whatever.

i will post my thoughts tomorrow, i have many.

thanks for the prerogative starship, i thought that the movies was a bit distancing for an earlier date and for the most part i think it is but this girl is very, very unconventional. theres no awkward silences or misleading misconceptions here, its almost like shes one of the guys. if i figure her out a bit more then ill go into some finer detail but i dont want you guys getting the wrong ideas. shes just... very unique. take all the time you need waar, id love to here your input on the matter.

recently we kind of made it official, i guess we're bf/gf. that being said theres two things to talk about now: one, intimacy and two, her mental juggle.

alright, now intimacy. we kind of got a little tipsy one night(being the romantically suave gentleman i am) because she practically encouraged me to, apparently its her liquid courage. a lot went down that night... if i had to sum it up into one word, FEROCIOUS. shes a fucking animal in bed and even more so when shes drunk lol, ive never had my hair pulled so hard in my life. i have scratch marks and scars from her bites and well... i was basically violated without the violated part haha. worst part of the story is i finally got my first bj, she offered it after i securely confirmed she wasn't out of it and well... i didn't get off. she prides herself in her skills because of her history with men and the compliments shes gotten and the fact that she couldn't get my virgin whisky dick(im hoping it was because of the alcohol)off was a big disappointment to her. i thought that was kind of cute honestly lol but she tried everything..... she even took me to a park at night to try and finish it off but no dice. i also touched my first boobs and fingered my first pussy, needless to say it was a monumental night for me lol.

some friends told me that if your not mentally prepared or you don't feel that way about the girl yet that your body basically doesn't respond to that kind of stimulus, does that make sense to anyone? cause she was gooooooood :3 but to no avail.

secondly is the mental struggle shes currently dealing with. look deeper into past posts and you'll read up on her somewhat dickish first love, after HE made her lose trust in him HE took something she said to seriously and for the next couple months HE used her almost exclusively for sex. that scarred her deep, shes still reflecting on what happened and what she could have done to save it... i really wish i could be the one to help her forget about him but its the sentimentality towards her old flame she can never let go. he was her first in practically everything, she gave him her virginity and heart and everrry fucking thing she possibly could. now im stuck on the sidelines while she sorts her feelings out for him(which she still has) and whether or not this relationship is what she needs right now. all i can do is console her and be a shoulder to cry on, the balls in her court and ive offered all the support i can.

soooo i dunno. im treating it like a great friendship right now but i wish i could do more, im kind of in a limbo after all thats happened. please gimme your opinion on whatever but don't dwell to hard on the intimacy part lol, even if she gets comfortable enough we might not be dating by then. obviously ill take whatever advice i can though, spill your heart out baby.