about defiled character?
what do you think about it?
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umm, where i should start :roll: .
Wondering what your opinion about character in anime / manga / story that lets see...defiled. I watched anime (official, not doujin) that the female protagonist is slept with another person who is not the male protagonist, can because of rape or natural. (thx to that, my mood that day was ruined)
what your opinion about this kind of character? specially female character? and do you ever felt same situation like me (getting down mood from watching it)?
thx for reply :D
Wondering what your opinion about character in anime / manga / story that lets see...defiled. I watched anime (official, not doujin) that the female protagonist is slept with another person who is not the male protagonist, can because of rape or natural. (thx to that, my mood that day was ruined)
what your opinion about this kind of character? specially female character? and do you ever felt same situation like me (getting down mood from watching it)?
thx for reply :D
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I've learned to ignore such stuff. When I first watched Accelerando, I was kinda pissed that the guy came inside the girl like four times in a row and she didn't even resist or anything. Something small like that was enough to make me feel down.
But I suppose I'm kinda used to this stuff now that I've watched a good deal of them (due to my position as a hentai site admin). I mean, it still pisses me off, and some of them just downright plunge me into depression (True Blue anyone?), but just remember none of this stuff is real, and you'll feel better I guess.
The truth is, no one is obligated, even in real life, to be faithful. It's just an expectation, although it is strange that girls are expected to be more reserved than guys. Guys that get around are even respected, in one way, while girls that get around are labeled "whore" or "slut". These films just capitalize on these, that even the cleanest, most pure and innocent girls can succumb to pleasure. Those otaku need to be fed you know.
But I suppose I'm kinda used to this stuff now that I've watched a good deal of them (due to my position as a hentai site admin). I mean, it still pisses me off, and some of them just downright plunge me into depression (True Blue anyone?), but just remember none of this stuff is real, and you'll feel better I guess.
The truth is, no one is obligated, even in real life, to be faithful. It's just an expectation, although it is strange that girls are expected to be more reserved than guys. Guys that get around are even respected, in one way, while girls that get around are labeled "whore" or "slut". These films just capitalize on these, that even the cleanest, most pure and innocent girls can succumb to pleasure. Those otaku need to be fed you know.
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yea, i remembered i watched School Days (anime version) Spoiler Warning!.
If i remember correctly, the scene is about when male protagonist (Makoto) was dancing with female protagonist (Sekai...i guess), while Kotonoha been raped by his friend. I thought "that shouldn't been happened, it's better if that wasn't happened". something like that...
that's one of scene that successfully destroy my mood in one minute.
well, i mean... the character i thought is not from doujin or character that created for sexual story. they fine at first, but when story progressing...they slept with another person. g4wd.......
any comment, please? :)
If i remember correctly, the scene is about when male protagonist (Makoto) was dancing with female protagonist (Sekai...i guess), while Kotonoha been raped by his friend. I thought "that shouldn't been happened, it's better if that wasn't happened". something like that...
that's one of scene that successfully destroy my mood in one minute.
well, i mean... the character i thought is not from doujin or character that created for sexual story. they fine at first, but when story progressing...they slept with another person. g4wd.......
any comment, please? :)
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argh i know that feelings and it usually drives me crazy :x
i mean it is ok for in hentai manga or doujin but if in anime and manga, that should be enough to get me depressed for a whole day :(
but the pain is nothing compare to the real life situation that you experienced yourself.....shit
i mean it is ok for in hentai manga or doujin but if in anime and manga, that should be enough to get me depressed for a whole day :(
but the pain is nothing compare to the real life situation that you experienced yourself.....shit
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Yeah is the same thing here once thsese scene shows up the next thing you know that is my mood and face is like total black a little bit of provocation and i'll lose my cool and start snaping off necks add a little more retarded attitude towards me they get a free hospital check in only if they are lucky... the power of anime not ot be messed like the scene in some hentai really can get me into a really nasty mood i wonder why they make the story go in theses ways ? to tease us ? or simply to make it interesting... and also if the lead female character is willing to sleep with other character just like tht i'll kill her if its forced then the guy dies....
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yea, it can't be denied that female protagonist usually act as best appeal from most series of anime / manga. don't know what the creator's purpose to make those scene.
But i must admit, those kind of scene give quite shock to.. well, part of audience :). i ask several of my friends, and well, actually they had same reaction like me :).
question:
what's in ur mind when you watch those scene? are u imagining to be male character and do some revenge or...?
(in my case, i usually imagining to be male protagonist and try to change the storyline....wonder why i had that as habit -_-)
But i must admit, those kind of scene give quite shock to.. well, part of audience :). i ask several of my friends, and well, actually they had same reaction like me :).
question:
what's in ur mind when you watch those scene? are u imagining to be male character and do some revenge or...?
(in my case, i usually imagining to be male protagonist and try to change the storyline....wonder why i had that as habit -_-)
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I try to avoid such stories if possible. They leave me feeling more frustrated than anything else. Usually, after watching such a scene, I try to imagine the female taking revenge on the perpetrator.
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Kaimax
Best Master-San
After watching scenes like that, sometimes my mood just fell down. It doesn't happen if the girl succumbs to pleasure, But if it was forced and the girl still don't like it till the end, it will make me down.
Like some other people I tend to make myself the lead protagonist or the audience who sided with the good guys.
At sometimes I'll even say "Please, don't let "that" girl get fucked by him!" :P
Like some other people I tend to make myself the lead protagonist or the audience who sided with the good guys.
At sometimes I'll even say "Please, don't let "that" girl get fucked by him!" :P
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Could you be referring to Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien as well, when
Personally, I have always liked such characters, the one doing the "defiling" and the one being "defiled", not because of the sexual themes involved, but rather, for the development of the storyline. More often than not, these sexual scenes are included because they play an important part in affecting the emotions of those involved, as well as those around them.
Spoiler:
Personally, I have always liked such characters, the one doing the "defiling" and the one being "defiled", not because of the sexual themes involved, but rather, for the development of the storyline. More often than not, these sexual scenes are included because they play an important part in affecting the emotions of those involved, as well as those around them.
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I can tell you as a female I can't stand those kind of scenes. It does ruin everything... you just feel like it's not right and the whole story has taken a turn away from pleasure. Don't get me wrong... when the female gives in, it makes the scene really hot. But if it is true "rape" scene, it makes me feel horrible and dirty...
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The kinds of shows and stories I prefer and tend to get emotionally involved in rarely if ever have elements of sex in them; hentai is simply a means to an end for me.
I don't know if I'm an anomaly on this site or not, but I prefer the female characters who are slutty, tough, older, and/or dominant with their sexuality. The innocent "good girl" typecast is so overdone and boring, and since more often than not she looks like she's waiting on puberty to strike, I have a hard time liking her at all. If a character flirts or sleeps around with more than one guy, more power to her.
Rape in hentai, specifically where the whole point of the rape is to degrade the female and deny pleasure, is simply not my cup of tea. Consensual submissive roles in bondage and rough sex are appealing, but full-on abuse just doesn't do it. I make an exception for tentacle/monster rape, but ask me why and I couldn't begin to explain it.
I don't know if I'm an anomaly on this site or not, but I prefer the female characters who are slutty, tough, older, and/or dominant with their sexuality. The innocent "good girl" typecast is so overdone and boring, and since more often than not she looks like she's waiting on puberty to strike, I have a hard time liking her at all. If a character flirts or sleeps around with more than one guy, more power to her.
Rape in hentai, specifically where the whole point of the rape is to degrade the female and deny pleasure, is simply not my cup of tea. Consensual submissive roles in bondage and rough sex are appealing, but full-on abuse just doesn't do it. I make an exception for tentacle/monster rape, but ask me why and I couldn't begin to explain it.
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@Sic
well, everyone had their own taste, i guess :)
@rukia
how about if the character is not quite "rape", but i guess...following the stream of story?
question:
say, if there are a love story, involving a male and female protagonist. They're not couple yet, but in middle of story, the female slept with another man (say...male protagonist's friend), quite pushy but not rape.
it will indeed play the character's emotional and complexing the story, but what do you think when watch this kind of story?
if it's me, i guess it had a same effect than before. i never liked female character get screwed by another person than main character. Weird huh? -.-
ur reply pls :)
well, everyone had their own taste, i guess :)
@rukia
how about if the character is not quite "rape", but i guess...following the stream of story?
question:
say, if there are a love story, involving a male and female protagonist. They're not couple yet, but in middle of story, the female slept with another man (say...male protagonist's friend), quite pushy but not rape.
it will indeed play the character's emotional and complexing the story, but what do you think when watch this kind of story?
if it's me, i guess it had a same effect than before. i never liked female character get screwed by another person than main character. Weird huh? -.-
ur reply pls :)
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*putting on metallic finger cover which shapes like a claw and putting on a set of metallic oni fang* *writting on notes* 1.first claw the guy to half dead 2.suck all his blood out from his neck and freak the girl out nuts 3.mind screw her into who she really like by using evilly twisted words...
*closes notepad* ok off to work...
*closes notepad* ok off to work...
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Three words:I hate it.Well,"it" refers to the plot or the scene that those characters u mention get "defiled",I don't want to feel any hatred toward the female protagonist in any situation,in fact I always blame the male protagonist for how inconsiderate of him that lead his girl to that kind of situation(No matter what rightful excuse he has,I still blame him not her).
I only watched very few of those kind of anime and I must say they all leave bad taste.So unless the protagonist really gonna have a nice comeback or something like that,I decide not to watch any further.
"First blame yourself,blame others later" I guess:P
I only watched very few of those kind of anime and I must say they all leave bad taste.So unless the protagonist really gonna have a nice comeback or something like that,I decide not to watch any further.
"First blame yourself,blame others later" I guess:P
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>>i feel disgusted in those shitty rapes wherein the rapist defiles the human rights of the victim.. ive seen stuffs like that and its totally a taboo.. what i mean by this is the shit that the rapist does as if it was torture other than pleasure.. i dont care whether it feels good for the perpetrator, but i really cant take inhumane acts.. shit like defilation of stuffs can break my not only my mood but also my day.. :roll:
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Personally I hate rape and I would like rapists to die, other than in certain cases as being too drunk/drugged to understand what he is doing, or when forced by a third party (might be a gang that is forcing you to rape someone, or a platoon that is raping a 'enemy' woman and you are forced to 'take a turn' on her), in those cases jail time would be acceptable.
For 'lucid' rapists, people who know what they are doing, planned it out and then carried out the rape, those people should be killed, at least that is how I feel about rape. In the past I almost beat a guy to death in my high school because he was trying to rape a friend of mine, they needed four guys (strong ones) to get me out of the other guy before I gave more permanent and lethal damage, he still have to use fake teeth, but my goal was something else. He got lucky that I wasn't with my pocket knife on me that time, or he would find himself without parts of his anatomy.
Those are my feelings as a person, but as an amateur writer I do understand the 'value of rape' to the plot, the emotional pain and scars can be used to develop a plot. I don't support rape, but sadly it is a reality, ignoring it would be foolish.
Well about 'defiling' a character, I have been charged of that by purists in the past, as mentioned before a man can fool around without negative repercutions, but if a woman does the same she is considered a slut, it is unfair but is how the world goes.
I watched Kimiga nozomu eien, it is quite good, but it pissed me off because the lack of resolution of the main cast, especially Mizuki, while pissed with her fucking around when her boyfriend was trying to help Haruka, I can partially understand her, it was a plot development, some support towards her boyfriend would be good.
For 'lucid' rapists, people who know what they are doing, planned it out and then carried out the rape, those people should be killed, at least that is how I feel about rape. In the past I almost beat a guy to death in my high school because he was trying to rape a friend of mine, they needed four guys (strong ones) to get me out of the other guy before I gave more permanent and lethal damage, he still have to use fake teeth, but my goal was something else. He got lucky that I wasn't with my pocket knife on me that time, or he would find himself without parts of his anatomy.
Those are my feelings as a person, but as an amateur writer I do understand the 'value of rape' to the plot, the emotional pain and scars can be used to develop a plot. I don't support rape, but sadly it is a reality, ignoring it would be foolish.
Well about 'defiling' a character, I have been charged of that by purists in the past, as mentioned before a man can fool around without negative repercutions, but if a woman does the same she is considered a slut, it is unfair but is how the world goes.
I watched Kimiga nozomu eien, it is quite good, but it pissed me off because the lack of resolution of the main cast, especially Mizuki, while pissed with her fucking around when her boyfriend was trying to help Haruka, I can partially understand her, it was a plot development, some support towards her boyfriend would be good.
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I've never really seen any Hardcore rape animes, and very few hentai, so I'm going on principle here:
Rape is bad, but I tolerate it.
Why?
Because it gives me fair excuse to send people to the hospital.
It's kinda like...in a video game, lets say. Sure, Bandits and Monsters and Penis-Tentacles are bad, but without them, we'd have no excuse to heft blades/cast fireballs/load guns for a good cause.
I dunno. I don't think that makes moral sense, but it's what I think.
Rape is bad, but I tolerate it.
Why?
Because it gives me fair excuse to send people to the hospital.
It's kinda like...in a video game, lets say. Sure, Bandits and Monsters and Penis-Tentacles are bad, but without them, we'd have no excuse to heft blades/cast fireballs/load guns for a good cause.
I dunno. I don't think that makes moral sense, but it's what I think.
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I hate to download hentai with a character I like, only to see her/him get raped. As for just random hentai, I don't really mind, even thought it most definitly ain't my preference.
When thinking about it, I suppose this goes for the real world aswell. I do not care if all strangers of the globe simultaneously raped each other. Infact, I would get very excited as it could prove to be an early state of global conciousness. Think about the qualities of having a planet full of warmongering monkeys that rapidly reproduce against their will.
Rape is not all uncommon in nature, either, that would explain why some characters like it, it is a basic instinct in all known life, after all.
When thinking about it, I suppose this goes for the real world aswell. I do not care if all strangers of the globe simultaneously raped each other. Infact, I would get very excited as it could prove to be an early state of global conciousness. Think about the qualities of having a planet full of warmongering monkeys that rapidly reproduce against their will.
Rape is not all uncommon in nature, either, that would explain why some characters like it, it is a basic instinct in all known life, after all.
