[Locked] What makes a functional society go bad?
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I was born in Japan and moved to Venezuela with my family at an early age (of course then I moved to the states) it peaceful and a successful country but as soon as the new president came to power the peace turned into corruption.
Can it happen to the United States too? or is it already happening?
What are the different factors?
Can it happen to the United States too? or is it already happening?
What are the different factors?
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Well to tell you the truth ... the rules changes with every president that comes in.
One might never no how the gameplay changes once a president commences his action of desire, one might create a policy regarding safety for such and such people, while that same policy can leave such and such people defenseless.
However I can imagine how hard it must be to decide on something that has to do with the whole nation, whether it be a good cause or not, because strategy is the key, and if not done correctly .. you might have hundreds and thousands of poor people standing in front of the white house with knives and forks ready to dish on the people in the office.
But I cannot tell you a specific answer since it varies from time to time.
One might never no how the gameplay changes once a president commences his action of desire, one might create a policy regarding safety for such and such people, while that same policy can leave such and such people defenseless.
However I can imagine how hard it must be to decide on something that has to do with the whole nation, whether it be a good cause or not, because strategy is the key, and if not done correctly .. you might have hundreds and thousands of poor people standing in front of the white house with knives and forks ready to dish on the people in the office.
But I cannot tell you a specific answer since it varies from time to time.
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It's the people, if the people aren't up for defending and helping out the country, it is going to go to ruins. The many bad apples like immigrants and people who just take advantage of any government programs. Too lazy to do anything, but big freeloaders. It can happen anywhere.
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The Randomness wrote...
It's the people, if the people aren't up for defending and helping out the country, it is going to go to ruins. The many bad apples like immigrants and people who just take advantage of any government programs. Too lazy to do anything, but big freeloaders. It can happen anywhere. Agreed, it always the people element that cost the most dysfunction in any society.
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In my honest opinion, there's no simple catch-all reason for it. In Mexico, the cartels started becoming a bigger problem when the drug trade caught like fire in the 80's and they decided to become the suppliers themselves instead of simply the middle men. This caused a rampant wave of corruption that spread like wildfire, and now it's gotten to the point where the national military can hardly do anything about it. While this may be different from what's going in Venezuela or here in the US, the fact remains that society there is also becoming dysfunctional.
It's pretty much circumstantial; each society will undoubtedly experience it, but they will hardly ever experience it the same way.
It's pretty much circumstantial; each society will undoubtedly experience it, but they will hardly ever experience it the same way.
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I think that a lack of real industry makes a so called 'functional' society go bad.
Hard but fair work creates a sense of pride and honour in people, The reason why theres so much apathy in western countries right now is because real work is practically non existant... When you can barely hang onto a job cleaning toilets or working on a temporary contract for some call center and every day some new scandal is coming out about a bunch of city trader rich kids and their fat cat bosses getting away with absolute MURDER you tend to get complacent about the "BIG" society you're working for.
You start to question why you should bother trying anymore, You get complacent which is totally understandable.
I also think that the education system and the way my generation has been brought up has basically squashed the life out of us, When I was in school I was taught to do the bare minimum, to keep my head down and not to make a fuss.
Hard but fair work creates a sense of pride and honour in people, The reason why theres so much apathy in western countries right now is because real work is practically non existant... When you can barely hang onto a job cleaning toilets or working on a temporary contract for some call center and every day some new scandal is coming out about a bunch of city trader rich kids and their fat cat bosses getting away with absolute MURDER you tend to get complacent about the "BIG" society you're working for.
You start to question why you should bother trying anymore, You get complacent which is totally understandable.
I also think that the education system and the way my generation has been brought up has basically squashed the life out of us, When I was in school I was taught to do the bare minimum, to keep my head down and not to make a fuss.
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I think its corrupt government, too many laws and overregulation. The corruption in the U.S. is so bad even us Americans are becoming disillusioned. Everybody can see whats wrong, the government tries to fix it and only makes it worse. I love being a American but, our country is fundamenally broken.
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I don't believe it's the elected leaders that ruin a country, I believe it's its people.
There are many macroeconomical factors to be considered, but at the core, society is the one that crumbles. I'll simply give you an example, 'cause any explanation would be easily debatable and poorly constructed.
A few years back in my country (Central American country), the elected right-wing president started hanging out with extreme leftist country leaders. Overnight he proposed a constitutional change that if approved, could serve as a stepping stone to permanently eliminating the "1 mandate period" law, where any person elected as president for a period of 4 years could only be once in his/her life. May people were pro this movement, but the vast majority were not. Massive publicity campaigns took place and the public was thrilled.
What most people didn't see however was how inflation was quickly on the rise, opposing parties were quickly separated from their power and when congress deemed the whole thing as inconstitutional, the president himself broke over a dozen laws to get the bill passed. Naturally a coup d'éta took place and circus antics ensued. Fingers were pointed in every direction and nothing was being resolved. The people wanted the exiled president back, as he was "the country's only hope" many said. They blatantly ignored the syphoning of over 10 million dollars worth of the national treasury to fund many eyebrow lifting excentricities from the former president (literally keeping a donkey in the presidential abode as an honored guest for a week believe it or not lol), even more from his entire cabinet. It took about 2 years for everything to die down and new political parties were formed.
The interesting thing is however, in the whole process where many were unified in their discontent, specific interests started emerging which defered from the original goals the people were so adamant about. At least 4 highly fractured parties were born, all proclaiming a transformation for the country and the end of all things suck. In the end however, it all boils down to the same thing:
Unrealistic promises of wealth for all, salvation from invisible enemies and the "HOPE" of a new tomorrow. People literally eat this stuff up. They fall prey to the charismatic, undereducated leader from nowhere with flashy ideas but no real way of instituting them.
THAT in a nutshell is why I believe a society goes bad. Simply due to the fact that we are an underachieving mass of gullible fools ready to believe in anyone who throws a piece of bread our way, or at least "promises" to do so tomorrow. Unfortunately, there is absolutely no changing this, and will probably continue until humans no longer exist.
There are many macroeconomical factors to be considered, but at the core, society is the one that crumbles. I'll simply give you an example, 'cause any explanation would be easily debatable and poorly constructed.
A few years back in my country (Central American country), the elected right-wing president started hanging out with extreme leftist country leaders. Overnight he proposed a constitutional change that if approved, could serve as a stepping stone to permanently eliminating the "1 mandate period" law, where any person elected as president for a period of 4 years could only be once in his/her life. May people were pro this movement, but the vast majority were not. Massive publicity campaigns took place and the public was thrilled.
What most people didn't see however was how inflation was quickly on the rise, opposing parties were quickly separated from their power and when congress deemed the whole thing as inconstitutional, the president himself broke over a dozen laws to get the bill passed. Naturally a coup d'éta took place and circus antics ensued. Fingers were pointed in every direction and nothing was being resolved. The people wanted the exiled president back, as he was "the country's only hope" many said. They blatantly ignored the syphoning of over 10 million dollars worth of the national treasury to fund many eyebrow lifting excentricities from the former president (literally keeping a donkey in the presidential abode as an honored guest for a week believe it or not lol), even more from his entire cabinet. It took about 2 years for everything to die down and new political parties were formed.
The interesting thing is however, in the whole process where many were unified in their discontent, specific interests started emerging which defered from the original goals the people were so adamant about. At least 4 highly fractured parties were born, all proclaiming a transformation for the country and the end of all things suck. In the end however, it all boils down to the same thing:
Unrealistic promises of wealth for all, salvation from invisible enemies and the "HOPE" of a new tomorrow. People literally eat this stuff up. They fall prey to the charismatic, undereducated leader from nowhere with flashy ideas but no real way of instituting them.
THAT in a nutshell is why I believe a society goes bad. Simply due to the fact that we are an underachieving mass of gullible fools ready to believe in anyone who throws a piece of bread our way, or at least "promises" to do so tomorrow. Unfortunately, there is absolutely no changing this, and will probably continue until humans no longer exist.
