Wizard of oz.
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Hey i found this and thought it was cool but kinda odd. I belive it may be right but i want to know what you all think. YOU MAY HAVE TO GO WATCH WoZ again! Its a pretty serious look at how the movie represents things that happen in real life. Or is it?
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/388326/political_symbolism_in_the_the_wizard.html
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/388326/political_symbolism_in_the_the_wizard.html
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It's more than plausible that The Wonderful Wizard of Oz was meant to be a form of social commentary. Criticizing the "powers that be" outright isn't always in a person's best interest. I really wouldn't be surprised if that's what Baum was aiming at. A lot of classical literature is, in some way, a form of social commentary. People look to writing as a release and, more often than not, they're pissed off at the government or social conditions. Its only natural that people are drawn to works that symbolically represent the bullshit of the times. Whether they're fully aware or not, people are drawn to things that give their grievances substance.
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Brittany
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Alice's Adventures in Wonderland would be an excellent example of what The Jesus mentioned.
I still really want to get this book Annotated Alice.
There's just something in the quality that makes me love stories like that. Albert Camus was a play writer who I loved deeply with his playwrights. Things were never as they always seemed on the surface.
I still really want to get this book Annotated Alice.
# There are two possibilities to the symbolism of "The Walrus and the Carpenter" poem. The first is religious in nature by comparing the Carpenter to Jesus Christ, the Walrus to Peter, and the Oysters to the disciples who are willing to follow Jesus to the end. The second (more probable theory) is of a more political nature. The Walrus and the carpenter are supposed to represent England, while the oysters represent all of the small colonies and territories that England conquered during the Age of the British Empire. (source)
J.B. Priestley has interpreted the Walrus and the Carpenter as archetypes of two kinds of politician. (source: Gardner, M., The Annotated Alice, 1998, p.233)
J.B. Priestley has interpreted the Walrus and the Carpenter as archetypes of two kinds of politician. (source: Gardner, M., The Annotated Alice, 1998, p.233)
# At the beginning of Through the Looking Glass Alice sais: 'It's a huge game of chess that's being played - all over the world'. This might be an allegory of the political situation that eventually led to the First World War.
There's just something in the quality that makes me love stories like that. Albert Camus was a play writer who I loved deeply with his playwrights. Things were never as they always seemed on the surface.
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ZiggyOtaku wrote...
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland would be an excellent example of what The Jesus mentioned.I still really want to get this book Annotated Alice.
# There are two possibilities to the symbolism of "The Walrus and the Carpenter" poem. The first is religious in nature by comparing the Carpenter to Jesus Christ, the Walrus to Peter, and the Oysters to the disciples who are willing to follow Jesus to the end. The second (more probable theory) is of a more political nature. The Walrus and the carpenter are supposed to represent England, while the oysters represent all of the small colonies and territories that England conquered during the Age of the British Empire. (source)
J.B. Priestley has interpreted the Walrus and the Carpenter as archetypes of two kinds of politician. (source: Gardner, M., The Annotated Alice, 1998, p.233)
J.B. Priestley has interpreted the Walrus and the Carpenter as archetypes of two kinds of politician. (source: Gardner, M., The Annotated Alice, 1998, p.233)
# At the beginning of Through the Looking Glass Alice sais: 'It's a huge game of chess that's being played - all over the world'. This might be an allegory of the political situation that eventually led to the First World War.
There's just something in the quality that makes me love stories like that. Albert Camus was a play writer who I loved deeply with his playwrights. Things were never as they always seemed on the surface.
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The Jesus wrote...
It's more than plausible that The Wonderful Wizard of Oz was meant to be a form of social commentary. Criticizing the "powers that be" outright isn't always in a person's best interest. I really wouldn't be surprised if that's what Baum was aiming at. A lot of classical literature is, in some way, a form of social commentary. People look to writing as a release and, more often than not, they're pissed off at the government or social conditions. Its only natural that people are drawn to works that symbolically represent the bullshit of the times. Whether they're fully aware or not, people are drawn to things that give their grievances substance.
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ZiggyOtaku wrote...
Try not to double post. Instead use the edit feature.
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misterstupid wrote...
The Jesus wrote...
It's more than plausible that The Wonderful Wizard of Oz was meant to be a form of social commentary. Criticizing the "powers that be" outright isn't always in a person's best interest. I really wouldn't be surprised if that's what Baum was aiming at. A lot of classical literature is, in some way, a form of social commentary. People look to writing as a release and, more often than not, they're pissed off at the government or social conditions. Its only natural that people are drawn to works that symbolically represent the bullshit of the times. Whether they're fully aware or not, people are drawn to things that give their grievances substance.Anyone who feeds into conspiracy bullshit might be outspoken in an isolated circle, but if they're given a soap box to stand on, they'll just back the fuck up and try to be invisible. Whether people believe in something completely insane or not, with our generation and the way things are now, a strong voice is easily muffled by all types of bullshit. If you look at the America in the late 60s and early 70s, not everyone could agree with what was being emphasized by the masses, but it was fucking beautiful that so many people, who individually had very little impact on society, were able to come together and speak with such a strong voice that it fucking shook the entire fucking United States.
We all have a sense of conviction inside and that is what shit like the Wizard of Oz appeals to. People are oblivious to the depth of the symbolism and the fact that it was serious fucking social criticism. However, when you watch the movie or you read it in whatever form is available, it is possible to realize that the convictions you hold, and maybe feel awkward about voicing, are not exclusive to yourself. The weight of our beliefs, in the way that they may affect society, are dependent upon the strength of our convictions. Many people can bitch, in unison, about anything, but the fact of the matter is that their truth is compromised by their satisfaction with just whining.
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The problem with a text this opaque and vague is that it is very open to interpretation, and the danger of reading things into vague texts instead of from them cannot be overstated.
Lacking circumstantial evidence on the issue, all remains idle speculation and an amusing pastime at best, but nothing meaningful can be said. The case for the wizard of oz to be intended as a political commentary hinges a bit too much on coincidence and liberal interpretation for my taste, especially what with Baum commenting himself that he did not intend it as a political metaphor.
Of course it is very possible that any given vague text was meant as a satire, or roman a clef, and understood as such by the contemporary readers of its epoch, but at this remove this cannot be asserted without additional evidence.
P.S.:
HEH.
Lacking circumstantial evidence on the issue, all remains idle speculation and an amusing pastime at best, but nothing meaningful can be said. The case for the wizard of oz to be intended as a political commentary hinges a bit too much on coincidence and liberal interpretation for my taste, especially what with Baum commenting himself that he did not intend it as a political metaphor.
Of course it is very possible that any given vague text was meant as a satire, or roman a clef, and understood as such by the contemporary readers of its epoch, but at this remove this cannot be asserted without additional evidence.
P.S.:
Another speculation is that she represents Theodore Roosevelt, the United States president. Some people believe this theory more than the other because of the similarities in the names. (Think: Dor-o-thy and The-o-dore).
HEH.