[Anime] Sword Art Online (Postponed to Summer 2012)
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Zeream wrote...
So you enjoy books that have poor character development, jump around the timeline to the point were the plot becomes a mess, and enjoy plot holes. Then I assume you enjoy most every written piece of work out there.THe poor chara development is not poor. Maybe you see them as poor because ur mindset is already 'SAO is bad' when u read it and your judgement is clouded because of the anime. And I did not enjoy every piece of work I ever read.
Zeream wrote...
See, the question is WHY you found it captivating. That entire scene was a plot hand wave. The plot was clearly going nowhere at that point and the author had written himself into a corner. The hero is in trouble and basically screwed because he is fighting the most powerful guy in the entire game; everyone is cowering around him or dead. His girlfriend is dead. In order to save his burning wreck, the author decided to throw in a last minute plot hand wave (the "super" ability) so he could draw on his impeccably bad writing.I find it captivating because the way the author tells the story makes me able to read and imagine it very cool. He didn't throw the last minute power, it only seems like that in the anime. In the novel, Kirito decide it is not the last boss he needs to be facing, but the system of the game itself.
Zeream wrote...
The problem with that is that the author shouldn't be making plotholes in the first place. Going back and changing your mistakes doesn't change the fact they are plot holes. That's called covering your ass. I will not forgive a writer for going back and correcting his mistakes on previously published work. If anything, I bite my thumb at him for letting the plot holes be there in the first place. He is simply a really bad writer.How do you know he was just changing the mistake? For all we know, he planned all of that. It's not covering your ass, it's called planning. Many, many known novels use that method too, giving so-called-plotholes on first volume and gives explanation on next volume. If you're not going to forgive him for that, then you shouldn't forgive lots of authors in this world too.
Zeream wrote...
The problem is that the timeline was messed up to begin with. The author constantly skips around in the timeline, never really fleshing out any of the characters or events. He gives most of the side characters one time appearances, just to invoke some petty nostalgia in later books in the off chance they DO reappear.Timeline IS NOT messed up in the novel. I'm geting more and more reassured that u read the novel after watch the anime with bad mindset. Beside Scilica and Lisbeth, the timeline story is pretty straightforward, and even more so in the anime.
Zeream wrote...
More than touched? Really? The most these side characters get is maybe a chapter or two in a single arc, maybe a minor re-visitation at the end of said arc. Its almost as if the author makes these characters so he can have fridge logic and plot hand-waves at the ready in the later arcs. I.E. Kirito is in trouble, and then side character X comes along to save the day. Its a poor writing style that only serves to cover his ass in case he writes himself into yet another corner.Yes, really. Of course the side character like Klein or Agil get minor revisitation, that's why they are called side characters. If u think the author should've given side charas same attention as main charas, that would make ur ideal book is the type that don't know how to put proper characterization. Ur simply pissed because Silica and Lisbeth only gets 1 arc and 1 episodes in the anime. Please put aside your bad mindset when you read about the other SIDE character.
Zeream wrote...
You see, what plot? The story is completely inconsistent in the anime. The Kirito and Asuna in one episode act very in the next. Their intentions, abilities, and pretty much everything about them other than their clothes are constantly changing. If anything, every episode seems to be standalone from the rest of them. The only overarching plot is that there seems to be some goal at the end the characters are striving towards, and that's already vague. We barely ever get to see this "overarching plot" and are bombarded with pointless filler from the beginning. It takes the series EIGHT episodes just to get on track. A 4th of the way through a 24 episode series. That's really poor organization on A-1's part.Very in the next, very what? And of course it's changing, it's the thing you've been mentioning called CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT. When people meet people and interact with them, then DEVELOP. That's how human is. And that's why their chara is changing, ugeddit?
Yes, there is a goal in that game, haven't u been paying attention on first chapter and first eps? It's to stay alive, and to get the hell out of the game. And u can't finish 74 floor without meeting other people, visiting floors, etc etc. I admit A-1 did not maximize the way they tell the story, but I disagree when u said 'what plot' in the novel. Get rid of the bad mindset. Moreover, there's another arching plot too, that is the CHARA DEVELOPMENT and relationship DEVELOPMENT between Asuna and Kirito. There, the answer for you question 'what plot?'
Zeream wrote...
For one, yes, the novels ARE garbage. The author can barely write for shit. His love stories have no passion to them; the main heroine falls for the main hero, and all the hero has to do is flash his sword around a bit and spend a bit of time with her. What kind of romantic development is that? Its not. This is further proven by his style of writing; he skips around the plotline all the time, omitting a lot of character development. Doing so allows him to pull random things out of his ass because "it happened inbetween the chapters." Half the characters that Kirito meets are outside of the storytelling, half of the items he gets are outside the storytelling, even his gained abilities are outside the storytelling. The blacksmith, his battle regeneration, etc. etc. etc. The audience knows next to nothing about Kirito other than he is this mysterious but overpowered dude who pulls things out of his hat like a magician (without the entertainment value). The novels are only readable because the world is interesting. You yourself want to be in SAO and have fun, which is why you read the books. Unfortunately you have to take a ride along with shitty characters and terrible storytelling, but in order to continue immersing yourself in the world you convince yourselves that everything in the series is the bee's knees. When I read these novels, I felt like I was reading a bunch of bad fan-fics rather than a group of cohesive and interesting books.Have u actually read the novel? What kind of idiot fell for other people just with flashing sword and spend a bit time? Asuna spend LOTS of time with Kirito, in fact 2 years and 74 floors at that. And Kirito did more than just flashing his sword, he , what, guides her the way to survive and tells her join a guild in arc Aria in the Starless Night, put the stress out of Asuna by practically saying 'take a break once in a while', and taking the blades for her when Kuradeel is about to slash her. The same with the reverse. More than spends time a LITTLE. It's a romantic development.
And if u read the novel, u'll know how Kirito gets his CHARA DEVELOPMENT, when Sachi and Black Cats died, when he leave Klein and go alone, when he takes the blame and creates another type of 'cheating' beta tester aka beater, etc, etc. See, CHARA DEVELOPMENT.
And u think gets skills when level up, gets item and equipment and dropped, is interesting? When it's just, ping, showed up after leveling up and with no knowledge how to use the skill ur hoping for some major BAM in the story? NoT. It's only interesting when he can utilize the item and skill well. Of course it is shown AFTER he gets it, it's a MMORPG.
Zeream wrote...
So, the only thing you guys have told me here is that your standards are unbelievably low when it comes to entertainment. Opinions may be opinions, but that doesn't stop you from having poor taste if you are content with such bad literary works, sub-par animation, poor storytelling, and over the top melodrama.Yeah, not to mention poor mindset when reading a literary works, bad mindset on receiving story telling, and not accepting a romantic development melodrama. No one has bad taste, just different taste. Opinions are opinions, and that's why they differ between people. No one has the right to ridicule other people taste, not even you, whoever you are.
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^Major wall of text. But yeah that explains a lot. upvote for you brah.
Ep 15
It's good to see that im not alone in hating that guy. Also, isn't cellphones built with recorders or some shit like that? I mean, what year is it on their time that they haven't developed such a thing anyway?
Ep 15
It's good to see that im not alone in hating that guy. Also, isn't cellphones built with recorders or some shit like that? I mean, what year is it on their time that they haven't developed such a thing anyway?
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Fuckin Sugou needs to have his throat slit *Mad Enhancement Activate*
The Yggdrasil is different.... so cool!!
The Yggdrasil is different.... so cool!!
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castor212 wrote...
Fuckin Sugou needs to have his throat slit *Mad Enhancement Activate*The Yggdrasil is different.... so cool!!
Calm down. Shit will happen to every character in this anime, including him.
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Buff_Daddy_Dizzle
The True Buff Bizzle
castor212 wrote...
Spoiler:
Thank you. Thank you.
Your doin gods work Light
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
fuwaruu wrote...
Screw asuna, the imouto's where its at.I'm gonna fuck your skull for that, but i will settle for your sister. I'll pick her up from her jr high school.
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fuwaruu wrote...
animefreak_usa wrote...
settle for your sisterHah. jokes on you, I don't have a sister.
Your skull it is.
Also, Damn Castor, you got this shit. No need for me to jump in. Props to you man.
Im marathoning the ALO arc when its all out.
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Kaimax
Best Master-San
AJ27 wrote...
So who was it that sent him the picture anyway?It was from Agil. You need to focus more on the details.
Agil tips Kirito about Asuna - showing a screenshot taken in ALfheim Online - thus pressing Kirito to return to the world of VRMMORPGs and save Asuna. He gives Kirito a copy of the game.