Has The Japanese Been Infected By The East

I broach the question. Recently the Japanese have proposed a bill to censor fan service and other such so called "echi" components that we are used to in every day anime and manga to make them only for 18 and above or whatever the hell their legal age is (I`m pretty sure adults are 20 but meh I`m british and we let you marry people at 16 but you can`t drink or drive?) Anyway here`s the question. Do you guys on Fakku who relies on this stuff being made in order to inspire doujins think the west have finally corrupted the liberal morals of Japan? I know well here in the UK we have loosened up our laws a bit but have we infected them with our morality?

I dont think we've infected them or anything its just the way the current World is made, Its very 'in vogue' to be a boo boy and tut tut/tisk tisk things that are easily targetable.

Its like a popularity contest, The geek/weak kid in the classroom is always gonna be the fucker who gets picked on and its the same with ecchi fanservicey things.

These fuckers that denounce it as something shamefull are almost certainly into something sordid but they keep it on the down low so of course fucking an actual Schoolgirl in RL isnt bad at all, A lot of people just love nothing better than being moral crusaders for rightousness (I.E. Complete hypocrites)

Spoil our fun why dont you! (I wont be surprised if someone starts bitching about violence next and leave us with absolutely no pleasure in our lives so we'll all start trawling the streets for prostitutes that look like Mio Akiyama fulfilling our every sick whim)

All im gonna say is this you start banning shit you'd better be ready for the consequences cause the people are gonna have to redirect their energies into something else and its not gonna be a good thing like fucking embroidery! (Im talking about lesser evils here people, Ya dig?)

Anyway im off now to Bayonet someone in the back, Shoot them in the head with my pistol (Double tap) and then Tea Bag them so that everyone can Lulz about it! (Good clean acceptable fun)

The legal age of consent in Japan is 13. The legal age for any actress or actor to be in pornography is 18. Since 1948, the age of majority in Japan has been 20; persons under 20 are not permitted to smoke, drink, or vote. I'm assuming the legal age to view mature material would be 13+, seeing as My Little Sister can't be this Cute has Kirino, a fourteen year old girl, playing eroge. The bill being passed only affects child pornography, rape and anime/manga/doujinshi that praise the aforementioned. This includes loli/shouta fan-service. Loli/shouta being considered anyone who is sexually underdeveloped or under the age of 16.





Hopefully that clears any misconceptions, on topic:

Do I think that western culture is the reason Japan is clamping down on child pornography and rape? No.

Ishihara is making the right moves in Japan. Whether or not it's drawn, child pornography is still child pornography and it's far too available to the young minds of their time to be considered safe. The same goes for rape. You do not want a large percentage of young minds in Japan to grow up being exposed to those things, it's not good for their mentality and may lead to serious crimes later on in their lives. It's just not good for the growth of their country, it's that simple.

Moralfags are everywhere, japan desen't need the "west" to corrupt them.
Aaaand while there are some all-day porn channels and late-nigh sex channels going UNCENSORED they censor everything in anime and manga just because it's "only cartoon" and as such should not be "illicit" or some shit. Than, this is pure hypocrisy.

Where is your proof? By law all genitalia within any media in Japan must be censored. Doujinshi and erotic manga as well as animated hentai are not singled out.

You think and talk too much, plus my "moralfag-radar" is starting to tingle when I'm looking at your posts. No offense though.
NAH. XD >:)

He probably meant that most of the +18 late-night porn channels doesn't have any law to restrict them.

There's nothing Uncensored in Japan, unless it's underground production.

Ah, that makes a lot more sense. In response to that, those shows don't contain child pornography so it's not a wonder they're not receiving any attention from the government.

Tell me one thing. What do you see when you're looking at a lolicon doujin ? Childs having sex. Right ? Wrong.
You see a pile of ink on some sheats of paper. That's right, who can't even tell apart reality and fiction should not brag about how wrong it is. Okay, I can see you're point, being all offended with those rape, loli/shota or even guro doujins, but as long as it did not happen for real, as long as it stayes behind the cover of the book, or a dvd cover ifit's a hentai it's awwright with me. Can't you agree with this ?

I know this kind of hentai is still far from accepted by anyone other than some perverted minority, but outright rejection and banning WON'T stop this. Sometimes a little "looking away" is necessary for "happy" coexistence.
Bah, now I'm talking too much. It's just a sensitive subject, I guess.

I have to agree with the reality/fiction thing. What if I wrote a book (text-only) about raping a loli? It still would put basically the same images in a person's mind, without anyone actually being harmed.

Then there's the people who say that the book would cause people to rape a loli in real life...

Quite an angry fellow we have here. Cursing at an undefined entity and using random capitals. What are parents doing these days, seriously.



Someone give this guy the golden award for argument of the year.

Parents, much like me, checked your idol and tried to learn japanese with Namasensei, which in turn screwed up their english grammar because they were focusing too much on another language, thus resulting in literacy-challenged offspring.

I saw so many loli rape or not rape doujins I can't even count it, yet, I have no desire to rape a kid. It's like those people going out killing a bunch of other people because they got influanced by a film/a book/God told them/etc...
It's all bullshit.
Someone who'll rape a little girl after reading a loli doujin would do it without it eventually.

you can't generalized people and compare them to you but you've got a point there.
these porn stuff only provoking the act, 90% of rape is based on hatred not a need for sex.

Yayness, another person why played Recettear.

I still find it kinda funny that Ishihara is doing to ban rape and incest from anime when he is famous for writing rape novels.

in some way i gotta say maybe yes, it has...but still i think its ok.

Cmon, Level with me... Its TOTALLY about the sex isn't it!? "Excuse me but I just want you to know im not raping you for the sex. I quite simply hate you because of some deep psychological reason so obviously ive gotta fuck you with my dick"

Yeah... >__>

No you don't. If that was all you saw, you wouldn't bother looking at it. It is symbolic of pubescent characters in suggestive poses. It is fictional, but it still means and stands for something.



It is great that it doesn't happen for real, but the ideas and attitudes that are forged from allowing such things still shape the society that people live in. I don't mind argument of whether or not it should be allowed, but to say that it doesn't matter because there are not actually people displayed is ignoring the power that images and words carry.

OP - Japan doesn't have strong censorship laws, but this is because they don't need them, not that they have lower standards. There isn't as much offensive material in media - save for late night pornography. However, even those channels are usually premium or very soft core.

Mainly, Japanese culture has caused mainstream media to censor themselves. There is no need for strict censorship laws in a country that does not have much offensive programing in the first place.