Toph Vs Gaara.

Pretty much Gaara's Case. Toph can bend anything related to earth, even mud. And what do we know about anything water-related when touched by sand? It hardens and becomes useless, leaving Gaara defenseless.

Like I said, who wins this one really depends on where they fight.

If it's anywhere near sand, Gaara wins by a "sand"slide.

Get it? "Land", "Sand"? Whoo, oh man, I crack myself up :))


If it's somewhere near Mud, Toph can pretty much kick Gaara's ass.


If it's anywhere else, it depends.

Toph is a girl...

And like I said I highly doubt ANY of Gaara's finishers, Sand Coffin, the one he used on the chuunin exams against the guys he just met, OR the one he used against Sasuke when he wanted to hide in the ball of sand... Would work against Toph since she could just earthbend the sand away with literally a move of her hand, or if she's as good as king Boomey she could probably earthbend with her head alone, so even if she was totally restrained if she could move her head she could escape from any of his jutsus...

NO one posted a Pic of Toph yet?

no no no no no no. You guys are doing this wrong.

It's supposed to be Toph (Avatar) vs Terra (Teen Titans)

no no no Terra vrs Toph vrs Gaara

God, I hate votes based solely on characters they're familiar with...



I'm not sure who would win in a "tug-of-war" type situation, so I would just go with her turning the sand into lighter than air particles to just wash over her.

She can always just disperse the sand Gaara throw at her, as for Gaara he can only control sand, he would have to use his sand to pulverize the rock/earth into smaller bits like sand. Toph can control almost all types of minerals

And for people that dont know, Toph is blind...

She avoids flying boulders because she can sense where the user is trying to attack her, as long as that user is on earth. She can "guess" where the attack is headed by feeling the vibrations of the attacker. So if someone on a Firenation Air Ship launched a flaming boulder at her, she wouldn't see it. You can see that happen throughout the series.

As for Gaara, he can make his own terrain. Remember his fight with that bone dude during Sasuke's Retrieval Arc? They fought in a field, but Gaara turned alot of the field into sand. From what I know, Toph can't bend sand. She would've done so when they were stuck in the desert. She can barely "see" in it either.

So I think Gaara wins. But if she ever does learn to bend sand, things won't be so simple. I love Toph though. She pwns in her respective show.

In Book 2 episode 6 when we see her fight for the second time, she creates a dust cloud. Towards the end, she clears the dust cloud. I can't imagine her being able to pull this off without being able to sense the dust particles.

Also, I think benders can sense their respective elements or else bloodbending would be impossible.





Source:
http://nickelodeon.wikia.com/wiki/Toph_Bei_Fong

From the link you provided, it says that Toph can sense even the most minute vibrations, like small ants, etc. The only way she could have cleared the dust cloud was the way you described it, or that she was "seeing" the vibrations of the dust particles from the ground up. That's kind of far-fetched, but its possible. And since the dust was in contact with her, she would've been able to "see" it and bend it.

As for bloodbending, keep in mind that that ability is an exception. Its been done by only two people in the entire series, and only when its a full moon.

I see where you are going with this, but look at this example. If waterbenders can feel the water in the human body in certain conditions, then firebenders theoretically should feel the "inner fire" or heat or whatever inside the human body too. So in favorable conditions, like the comet, firebenders should be able to make people spontaneously combust theoretically. And if that's the case, its game over for everyone. There has to be some sort of limit to how much a bender can sense his/her element.






I definitely overlooked that. Thanks for pointing that out. Maybe Toph could give Gaara more of a fight than I thought.

Toph is only known to feel vibrations from the ground, and not the air. It would be harder to accept your explanation than to accept my explanation.



Blood bending is just one example of waterbending without using sight. The waterbenders in the forest (the hillbilly water tribe) were bending vines using the water in its veins.

Let me pose this question: earthbenders constantly pull out rocks from underground. If they are not able to sense using vibrations like Toph can, how do they know there are boulders underneath to pull to the surface?



Body heat and chemical combustion are definitely not the same.

I really don't see why it's so hard for you to accept the fact that benders can sense their own element.

And also thats like asking "shouldnt aang have been able to use the air people breathe to make their lungs explode?"

Its just not practical... though I think he could have...

But yeah its safe to say Toph CAN sense earth thats in midair, and if she's just guessing where they're comin from based on where the person she's fighting against is standing, she must be the luckiest person in the history of cartoons since I dont remember her every being hit by a flying rock...

Several good points. Let me make a good counter.

Persondude, the earthbenders in your example that can't sense vibrations of the earth are able to bend the earth because they can sense it? Like I said, maybe to some extent, but not completely. There has to be a limit. Unless you are King Bumi, an earthbender has to be in contact with the earth to bend it. I haven't seen one earthbender (except King Bumi) that have pulled earth while in midair. The Dai Li already had the earth in their hands, so thats not it. So like I said, there has to be a limit.

For your second point, I don't get what you are saying. If you are saying that burning is chemical combustion, I get it. Heat and chemical combustion are not the same. However, when you heat something enough, it burns. No exceptions. You can call it chemical combustion or burning. It doesn't really matter. Heat is the catalyst, and that's what a firebender would tap into in order to make someone combust/burn. The burning is the end result in the example I gave. No one has done this, and there are no signs that it could've been done. Therefore, there has to be a limit.

Zak, if there was no limit, Aang in the Avatar State should be able to literally suck the air out of a person or the opposite. Maybe it wasn't done because its a kids show, so I'll leave that alone. It would've been great to see.

And in your second point, its not luck. She knows exactly where that person is going to attack as long as they are on earth based on the person's stance, etc. She did this in the earth rumble tournament. Also, if she can sense a rock thrown from a person that didn't touch earth, why didn't she just break the boulders that were being launched at them consistently throughout the series when she was on Appa with the group? She couldn't "see" them or "sense" them. It was always Aang airbending the boulders out of the way or some derivation of that.

My whole point is that there has to be some limit to how much a bender can sense his/her element. Maybe it has to do with chakra. Uh oh...

Ok ok, so then lets ASSUME Toph cant see anything while whatever that might be is not touching the ground, and lets get back to the main point, Toph Vs Gaara...

If Gaara decides to float up(lol) into the sky to avoid getting his ass kicked I can also assume he will be using sand to float(lol) up...

And as Ive noticed, but I dont know if its true or not, he DOESNT (or cant?) actually HOLD all the sand since some of it always falls down and hits the ground, so if he does go up into the sky wont taking all the sand and having even the smallest specks of it hit the ground give Toph pretty good coordinates of where he's currently floating over...?

EDIT:

Of course Im not taking into account wind or anything...

Depends on where they fight.

They fight in a desert: Toph herself says she can't see clearly in the desert as everything looks like a blurry image because sand doesn't transfer vibrations as fine as concrete or any other soil. Gaara on the other hand loves the desert and can just open up a huge hole from below and immediate desert grave yard. Gaara wins.

They fight in a normal plain: Toph has an infinite resource (earth) while Gaara is limited to the sand in his gourge. He can use the sand in the earth but not as efficiently as he has to crush them first before he can use them freely. Unless Gaara can find a way to make sure he wont give away his attacks and position through vibration Toph pretty much have the advantage.

Also please note that Toph feels vibrations using her feet. Meaning arial attacks are a big weakness.

Now you're just trying to deny a plausible explanation... It really shouldn't be that hard to accept. With training, the benders should be able to feel their element. For example: early in the series, Katara mentions that she cannot bend water she cannot see, but we see her bending water out of plants and bending blood (both cases involving water she cannot see) later in the series. I think it can be attributed to further training and being able to sense her element.

Also, I don't think you totally grasped my explanation in my previous post.



What I meant was that from what I've seen from the series, firebenders seem unable to create fire outside of reach. We always see it created in close proximity. The only time we see them ever indirectly influence fire is when there are actual flames, meaning the chemical combustion is already in progress.


*EDIT*
Fuck nevermind, found my evidence:



http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Toph_Bei_Fong

Ok so there you have it, Toph can sense earth that isnt on the ground...

So she has more than a fighting chance against a giant piece of floating earth thats basically one big human-sized target...

But in the very same link:



Its inconsistent, or maybe its just me. But whatever. Let's just get back to the original topic.

Walls of text, not reading. (tl;dr)

Toph wins, bend the NOT MOVING sand on Gaara's body into his body. Insta-death.