2 reasons I haven't continued my subscription
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1. The billing name being fakku on our statements isn't exactly discreet when almost every single adult store sells them discreetly with different billing names rather than their actual store or site name. I don't exactly want fakku on my statements each month etc.
2. It's almost all vanilla. Vanilla is nice and all, but other than a bit of niche here and there it is all vanilla. Having read hentai for so long vanilla gets rather stale unless the art and story are simply good or longer than 1 chapter.
So my question is Is fakku going to ever be able to do something about either of these issues soon? Even if just number 1 would at least make me feel better about the subscription.
2. It's almost all vanilla. Vanilla is nice and all, but other than a bit of niche here and there it is all vanilla. Having read hentai for so long vanilla gets rather stale unless the art and story are simply good or longer than 1 chapter.
So my question is Is fakku going to ever be able to do something about either of these issues soon? Even if just number 1 would at least make me feel better about the subscription.
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1 depends on FAKKU, I guess. Personally I like knowing what my transactions are and seeing charges on my bank statement that are difficult to recognize is a hindrance. Your concern is definitely valid though.
2 is just false or you were exaggerating. While the vanilla tag is the most common, less than 40% of manga in the subscription are tagged vanilla. Because vanilla is the most popular type of content, I think it's very important to have a lot of it because that encourages FAKKU's growth. Putting that aside, FAKKU just publishes whatever goes into the magazines. Probably the best way to add more non-vanilla manga to the subscription is to suggest adding a magazine with mostly non-vanilla content. The most recent partnership included Girls forM which is pretty non-vanilla so perhaps FAKKU is ready to branch out at this point. I think your criticism is fair but it's a little exaggerated.
2 is just false or you were exaggerating. While the vanilla tag is the most common, less than 40% of manga in the subscription are tagged vanilla. Because vanilla is the most popular type of content, I think it's very important to have a lot of it because that encourages FAKKU's growth. Putting that aside, FAKKU just publishes whatever goes into the magazines. Probably the best way to add more non-vanilla manga to the subscription is to suggest adding a magazine with mostly non-vanilla content. The most recent partnership included Girls forM which is pretty non-vanilla so perhaps FAKKU is ready to branch out at this point. I think your criticism is fair but it's a little exaggerated.
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ChrisBRosado123 wrote...
1 depends on FAKKU, I guess. Personally I like knowing what my transactions are and seeing charges on my bank statement that are difficult to recognize is a hindrance. Your concern is definitely valid though.2 is just false or you were exaggerating. While the vanilla tag is the most common, less than 40% of manga in the subscription are tagged vanilla. Because vanilla is the most popular type of content, I think it's very important to have a lot of it because that encourages FAKKU's growth. Putting that aside, FAKKU just publishes whatever goes into the magazines. Probably the best way to add more non-vanilla manga to the subscription is to suggest adding a magazine with mostly non-vanilla content. The most recent partnership included Girls forM which is pretty non-vanilla so perhaps FAKKU is ready to branch out at this point. I think your criticism is fair but it's a little exaggerated.
You point about knowing what your transactions are are quite pointless, because adult sites normally state on check out what it will show up as on your billing without giving away the name of the adult site or store name for privacy purposes.
Also note that many of their offerings even without Vanilla tag can still be considered vanilla due to consensual, both sides love each other etc.
Vanilla is still the major part of what they offer while other offerings such as NTR/Cheating/Forced/Monster Girl etc. are a minority. Every time I sub I check other genre's by tag only to be able to read them all in 2~3 days hence making it pointless for me to continue my sub unless I only want a majority of vanilla and only a tiny bit of other stuff once a month.
And according to Fakku's own poll, vanilla is NOT the most popular type of content. It may be in the top 3 (if you don't count "others"), but it is not the top for their consumers that at least visit their forums and care enough to vote which I'm sure anyone passionate enough about their hentai would vote.
It's great they are getting a magazine that isn't for vanilla like Girls for M, however that is still only 1 out of all their magazines and you would need to enjoy femdom which wasn't high on the polls coming in 5th if you don't count "Others".
And it is laughable to whoever gave me -1 rep for stating a feedback in the feedback section to help improve Fakku's appeal to more people. (On my OP, but also I had a +1)
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YQII
FAKKU Translator
Your first point isn't something I have any control over, but from what I understand, that's not something we can do right now.
As for #2, I can only repeat what I've said in the past. This reply was about yuri, but it's relevant to most genres that I think you'd define as "not vanilla."
I'm not saying you can't find a magazine that's less vanilla than the ones we have right now, just that most magazines aim for mainstream appeal, which means you won't find that much extreme content in them. With that being the case, I don't think the vanilla ratio would drastically change even if we picked up every magazine out there. The doujinshi scene will always be the main source of alternative content, both here and on the Japanese market.
As for #2, I can only repeat what I've said in the past. This reply was about yuri, but it's relevant to most genres that I think you'd define as "not vanilla."
Commercial manga rarely has a lot of—in lack of a better word—sub-genres, which can be something as mundane as yuri or something more extreme like bestiality. If they do it's often only a handful of chapters per year at best. Commercial manga is produced for a large market, so as a publisher you want to fill your magazines with content that appeals to as many people as possible. The only real exceptions that come to mind are loli and futanari where there are magazines that have had longtime success as a 100% niche magazine.
As Jacob mentioned, the doujinshi scene is typically where you find these genres. Being self-published with the goal of only selling a few hundred of copies, artists are able to target a smaller niche audience. Of course, if their work doesn't sell, they're the only ones suffering and take a relatively small monetary lost over their hobby. When a magazine shuts down, that's hundreds of people effected and in worst case they lose their livelihood. Running a business comes with greater responsibilities.
As has already been said, it's unlikely the subscription service will ever provide a substantial amount of yuri, but that's precisely why we're expanding into the doujinshi market. Hopefully we can provide you with some yuri content that way instead.
As Jacob mentioned, the doujinshi scene is typically where you find these genres. Being self-published with the goal of only selling a few hundred of copies, artists are able to target a smaller niche audience. Of course, if their work doesn't sell, they're the only ones suffering and take a relatively small monetary lost over their hobby. When a magazine shuts down, that's hundreds of people effected and in worst case they lose their livelihood. Running a business comes with greater responsibilities.
As has already been said, it's unlikely the subscription service will ever provide a substantial amount of yuri, but that's precisely why we're expanding into the doujinshi market. Hopefully we can provide you with some yuri content that way instead.
I'm not saying you can't find a magazine that's less vanilla than the ones we have right now, just that most magazines aim for mainstream appeal, which means you won't find that much extreme content in them. With that being the case, I don't think the vanilla ratio would drastically change even if we picked up every magazine out there. The doujinshi scene will always be the main source of alternative content, both here and on the Japanese market.
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YQII wrote...
Your first point isn't something I have any control over, but from what I understand, that's not something we can do right now.As for #2, I can only repeat what I've said in the past. This reply was about yuri, but it's relevant to most genres that I think you'd define as "not vanilla."
Commercial manga rarely has a lot of—in lack of a better word—sub-genres, which can be something as mundane as yuri or something more extreme like bestiality. If they do it's often only a handful of chapters per year at best. Commercial manga is produced for a large market, so as a publisher you want to fill your magazines with content that appeals to as many people as possible. The only real exceptions that come to mind are loli and futanari where there are magazines that have had longtime success as a 100% niche magazine.
As Jacob mentioned, the doujinshi scene is typically where you find these genres. Being self-published with the goal of only selling a few hundred of copies, artists are able to target a smaller niche audience. Of course, if their work doesn't sell, they're the only ones suffering and take a relatively small monetary lost over their hobby. When a magazine shuts down, that's hundreds of people effected and in worst case they lose their livelihood. Running a business comes with greater responsibilities.
As has already been said, it's unlikely the subscription service will ever provide a substantial amount of yuri, but that's precisely why we're expanding into the doujinshi market. Hopefully we can provide you with some yuri content that way instead.
As Jacob mentioned, the doujinshi scene is typically where you find these genres. Being self-published with the goal of only selling a few hundred of copies, artists are able to target a smaller niche audience. Of course, if their work doesn't sell, they're the only ones suffering and take a relatively small monetary lost over their hobby. When a magazine shuts down, that's hundreds of people effected and in worst case they lose their livelihood. Running a business comes with greater responsibilities.
As has already been said, it's unlikely the subscription service will ever provide a substantial amount of yuri, but that's precisely why we're expanding into the doujinshi market. Hopefully we can provide you with some yuri content that way instead.
I'm not saying you can't find a magazine that's less vanilla than the ones we have right now, just that most magazines aim for mainstream appeal, which means you won't find that much extreme content in them. With that being the case, I don't think the vanilla ratio would drastically change even if we picked up every magazine out there. The doujinshi scene will always be the main source of alternative content, both here and on the Japanese market.
I believe there are whole Magazines focused on NTR or Forced or even other genre like monster girls etc. I remember reading a magazine that was solely focused on Heroines losing against enemies.
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YQII
FAKKU Translator
zecknor wrote...
I believe there are whole Magazines focused on NTR or Forced or even other genre like monster girls etc. I remember reading a magazine that was solely focused on Heroines losing against enemies.You might be thinking of anthologies, which are not the same as a magazine. Anthologies are stand-alone collections of themed stories (such as "heroines losing against enemies"). If they prove popular enough they might get another volume or two, but they're not released on a regular basis like a magazine. It's like a middle ground between commercial manga and doujinshi, where they can afford to take some risk since it's just a one-off release. In fact, to make a correction to my original post, the futanari magazines I was thinking about were really just anthologies that went on for a couple of volumes.
Anthologies have been brought up before internally, and it's something we might look into in the future.
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zecknor wrote...
You point about knowing what your transactions are are quite pointless, because adult sites normally state on check out what it will show up as on your billing without giving away the name of the adult site or store name for privacy purposes.Also note that many of their offerings even without Vanilla tag can still be considered vanilla due to consensual, both sides love each other etc.
Vanilla is still the major part of what they offer while other offerings such as NTR/Cheating/Forced/Monster Girl etc. are a minority. Every time I sub I check other genre's by tag only to be able to read them all in 2~3 days hence making it pointless for me to continue my sub unless I only want a majority of vanilla and only a tiny bit of other stuff once a month.
And according to Fakku's own poll, vanilla is NOT the most popular type of content. It may be in the top 3 (if you don't count "others"), but it is not the top for their consumers that at least visit their forums and care enough to vote which I'm sure anyone passionate enough about their hentai would vote.
It's great they are getting a magazine that isn't for vanilla like Girls for M, however that is still only 1 out of all their magazines and you would need to enjoy femdom which wasn't high on the polls coming in 5th if you don't count "Others".
And it is laughable to whoever gave me -1 rep for stating a feedback in the feedback section to help improve Fakku's appeal to more people. (On my OP, but also I had a +1)
> You point about knowing what your transactions are are quite pointless, because adult sites normally state on check out what it will show up as on your billing without giving away the name of the adult site or store name for privacy purposes.
It's not pointless because sometimes I'll have a lot of transactions and reviewing them becomes more complicated when there are things I find difficult to recognize. I'm just sharing my perspective, I am not arguing with you about why it should or shouldn't be discreet.
> Also note that many of their offerings even without Vanilla tag can still be considered vanilla due to consensual, both sides love each other etc.
Generally not the case, but yes there are a significant amount of these. It's still not "almost all vanilla" as you claimed.
> And according to Fakku's own poll, vanilla is NOT the most popular type of content. It may be in the top 3 (if you don't count "others"), but it is not the top for their consumers that at least visit their forums and care enough to vote which I'm sure anyone passionate enough about their hentai would vote.
I don't buy it. FAKKU probably has much better data than that to go by, behind the scenes. Vocal minorities are very likely to vote for other tags, in hope that it will encourage the staff to explore other opportunities. We don't know who is represented by that poll. That said, since I don't have the data to look at myself I will retract my statement about it being the most popular. I'm pretty sure it is though. While there may be significant support for niche/fetish content, vanilla is (I think) likely to be enjoyed by people with all sorts of different tastes. That's what makes it popular, not people who exclusively read vanilla content. Anyway since this isn't really backed by data I can only push that as my opinion for now.
> It's great they are getting a magazine that isn't for vanilla like Girls for M, however that is still only 1 out of all their magazines and you would need to enjoy femdom which wasn't high on the polls coming in 5th if you don't count "Others".
My point was really that they're expanding into more niche territory that is largely not vanilla. I would think this means there's a good chance they're willing to look into other non-vanilla publications now.
> And it is laughable to whoever gave me -1 rep for stating a feedback in the feedback section to help improve Fakku's appeal to more people. (On my OP, but also I had a +1)
Wasn't me, I don't - people who are making a reasonable argument. Sorry that happened to you, but I would just ignore it. Some people would rather just make "vote" decisions based on who they agree/disagree with rather than pay attention to what you actually care about. It's a real problem but I don't think there's a good solution for it.
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YQII wrote...
zecknor wrote...
I believe there are whole Magazines focused on NTR or Forced or even other genre like monster girls etc. I remember reading a magazine that was solely focused on Heroines losing against enemies.You might be thinking of anthologies, which are not the same as a magazine. Anthologies are stand-alone collections of themed stories (such as "heroines losing against enemies"). If they prove popular enough they might get another volume or two, but they're not released on a regular basis like a magazine. It's like a middle ground between commercial manga and doujinshi, where they can afford to take some risk since it's just a one-off release. In fact, to make a correction to my original post, the futanari magazines I was thinking about were really just anthologies that went on for a couple of volumes.
Anthologies have been brought up before internally, and it's something we might look into in the future.
Ah okay well hopefully Anthologies are picked up for the niche content at least 1 or 2 every month/other month would be nice.
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YQII wrote...
Your first point isn't something I have any control over, but from what I understand, that's not something we can do right now.As for #2, I can only repeat what I've said in the past. This reply was about yuri, but it's relevant to most genres that I think you'd define as "not vanilla."
Commercial manga rarely has a lot of—in lack of a better word—sub-genres, which can be something as mundane as yuri or something more extreme like bestiality. If they do it's often only a handful of chapters per year at best. Commercial manga is produced for a large market, so as a publisher you want to fill your magazines with content that appeals to as many people as possible. The only real exceptions that come to mind are loli and futanari where there are magazines that have had longtime success as a 100% niche magazine.
As Jacob mentioned, the doujinshi scene is typically where you find these genres. Being self-published with the goal of only selling a few hundred of copies, artists are able to target a smaller niche audience. Of course, if their work doesn't sell, they're the only ones suffering and take a relatively small monetary lost over their hobby. When a magazine shuts down, that's hundreds of people effected and in worst case they lose their livelihood. Running a business comes with greater responsibilities.
As has already been said, it's unlikely the subscription service will ever provide a substantial amount of yuri, but that's precisely why we're expanding into the doujinshi market. Hopefully we can provide you with some yuri content that way instead.
As Jacob mentioned, the doujinshi scene is typically where you find these genres. Being self-published with the goal of only selling a few hundred of copies, artists are able to target a smaller niche audience. Of course, if their work doesn't sell, they're the only ones suffering and take a relatively small monetary lost over their hobby. When a magazine shuts down, that's hundreds of people effected and in worst case they lose their livelihood. Running a business comes with greater responsibilities.
As has already been said, it's unlikely the subscription service will ever provide a substantial amount of yuri, but that's precisely why we're expanding into the doujinshi market. Hopefully we can provide you with some yuri content that way instead.
I'm not saying you can't find a magazine that's less vanilla than the ones we have right now, just that most magazines aim for mainstream appeal, which means you won't find that much extreme content in them. With that being the case, I don't think the vanilla ratio would drastically change even if we picked up every magazine out there. The doujinshi scene will always be the main source of alternative content, both here and on the Japanese market.
How come my Fakku cannot apply my first point? You have more behind the scenes then the rest of us. I believe Jast and Mangagamer both do it.
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Drifter995
Neko//Night
I'm curious why so many people care about having 'fakku' on their statement
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Drifter995 wrote...
I'm curious why so many people care about having 'fakku' on their statementBecause we rather not have "PORN" in big letters on our statement when we go to the bank to check our account or when other people see our statements.
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zecknor wrote...
Drifter995 wrote...
I'm curious why so many people care about having 'fakku' on their statementBecause we rather not have "PORN" in big letters on our statement when we go to the bank to check our account or when other people see our statements.
It doesn't though - it says Fakku. Few will know what that Fakku even it's hardly PornHub or something obvious.
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Drifter995
Neko//Night
zecknor wrote...
Drifter995 wrote...
I'm curious why so many people care about having 'fakku' on their statementBecause we rather not have "PORN" in big letters on our statement when we go to the bank to check our account or when other people see our statements.
Who else checks your bank statements for it to be an issue?
Banks would see all kinds of funky shit, porn subs would be probably the norm by now. Granted, if you're in a country where it's banned like flipland or wherever it was that banned most porn sites, understandable
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Kuzembo wrote...
zecknor wrote...
Drifter995 wrote...
I'm curious why so many people care about having 'fakku' on their statementBecause we rather not have "PORN" in big letters on our statement when we go to the bank to check our account or when other people see our statements.
It doesn't though - it says Fakku. Few will know what that Fakku even it's hardly PornHub or something obvious.
FAKKU is pretty close to the **** you making it quite a curios name to others to check out especially if it's on your statement quite often. Having them change their statement from something easily searchable to find out is a porn site does not in any way hurt any of You, yet you all defend it like it matters to you that they keep it.
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adix22
Grape Lolipop
zecknor wrote...
ChrisBRosado123 wrote...
1 depends on FAKKU, I guess. Personally I like knowing what my transactions are and seeing charges on my bank statement that are difficult to recognize is a hindrance. Your concern is definitely valid though.2 is just false or you were exaggerating. While the vanilla tag is the most common, less than 40% of manga in the subscription are tagged vanilla. Because vanilla is the most popular type of content, I think it's very important to have a lot of it because that encourages FAKKU's growth. Putting that aside, FAKKU just publishes whatever goes into the magazines. Probably the best way to add more non-vanilla manga to the subscription is to suggest adding a magazine with mostly non-vanilla content. The most recent partnership included Girls forM which is pretty non-vanilla so perhaps FAKKU is ready to branch out at this point. I think your criticism is fair but it's a little exaggerated.
You point about knowing what your transactions are are quite pointless, because adult sites normally state on check out what it will show up as on your billing without giving away the name of the adult site or store name for privacy purposes.
Also note that many of their offerings even without Vanilla tag can still be considered vanilla due to consensual, both sides love each other etc.
Vanilla is still the major part of what they offer while other offerings such as NTR/Cheating/Forced/Monster Girl etc. are a minority. Every time I sub I check other genre's by tag only to be able to read them all in 2~3 days hence making it pointless for me to continue my sub unless I only want a majority of vanilla and only a tiny bit of other stuff once a month.
And according to Fakku's own poll, vanilla is NOT the most popular type of content. It may be in the top 3 (if you don't count "others"), but it is not the top for their consumers that at least visit their forums and care enough to vote which I'm sure anyone passionate enough about their hentai would vote.
It's great they are getting a magazine that isn't for vanilla like Girls for M, however that is still only 1 out of all their magazines and you would need to enjoy femdom which wasn't high on the polls coming in 5th if you don't count "Others".
And it is laughable to whoever gave me -1 rep for stating a feedback in the feedback section to help improve Fakku's appeal to more people. (On my OP, but also I had a +1)
I've made quite similar argument here "https://www.fakku.net/hentai/ones-never-enough-english" And I wholeheartedly agree there's just enough hardcore stuff here. Heck even most hardcore works here are just tame; sadly it's niche ,and most people would prefer vanilla works rather than forced/mind-break etc. And while I will support Fakku (who else am I to support. aside from FAKKU there is only 2D Market and Project hentai) I find most Vanilla comics boring,and uninteresting. I rarely find something that is vanilla and it's genuinely interesting (everything feels like copy & paste with different art style)
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Smuggins
Just Some Guy
I don't care if Fakku appears on my credit card, because I am a) and adult and b) the only one looking at my statement. I know some places don't put their 'front end' name on the statement, but that is because the porn name (like Playboy) are a DBA (doing business as) name. I imagine Fakku would have to legally restructure how it is incorperated and setup. Just my view.
I think everyone has their niche and always feel slighted. I feel like there is less and less vanilla every day. Has been since Girls for M got picked up. However, I have read 'vanilla' monster girl (there is plenty of examples on Fakku), so I don't know what you mean by 'vanilla'. Seems like it is just "stuff you don't like".
I would love to see more Monster Girl stuff myself, provided it falls into the consensual category.
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Edit: to clarify, I see 'vanilla' as smaller percentage of overall Fakku content (which seems to be so prolific, it is hard to keep up). I did not mean to imply that there is less vanilla than previous, just a changing percentage of content, which I think is a good thing.
I think everyone has their niche and always feel slighted. I feel like there is less and less vanilla every day. Has been since Girls for M got picked up. However, I have read 'vanilla' monster girl (there is plenty of examples on Fakku), so I don't know what you mean by 'vanilla'. Seems like it is just "stuff you don't like".
I would love to see more Monster Girl stuff myself, provided it falls into the consensual category.
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Edit: to clarify, I see 'vanilla' as smaller percentage of overall Fakku content (which seems to be so prolific, it is hard to keep up). I did not mean to imply that there is less vanilla than previous, just a changing percentage of content, which I think is a good thing.
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1 - I wouldn†˜t mind if FAKKU would change the name for the credit card information. But if Fakku would use a different name for the credit card information, it could lead to more expense with the customs for international customers.
2 - It is probably wrong to say that the majority of the content on FAKKU is vanilla. But for lack of a better word, I think a lot of the content is pretty †žvanilla-ish“. Because of the lack of content I’m interested in, I cancelled my subscription 18 months ago. But I’m mostly disappointed with FAKKU books. The message I received as FAKKU canceled NTR2 was †žwe won’t publish dark content“, at least not in the near future. I mean that figuratively.
2 - It is probably wrong to say that the majority of the content on FAKKU is vanilla. But for lack of a better word, I think a lot of the content is pretty †žvanilla-ish“. Because of the lack of content I’m interested in, I cancelled my subscription 18 months ago. But I’m mostly disappointed with FAKKU books. The message I received as FAKKU canceled NTR2 was †žwe won’t publish dark content“, at least not in the near future. I mean that figuratively.