[Locked] Futanari and futa-on-female shouldn't be tagged yuri.

it was hard to find when you repeatedly used the uncountable form of 'authority'.



this is exactly what i was talking about. how was i taking it personal?

Uh, seems like you missed the point again. I'm pretty sure he used authority in the sense of reliable source of information, not on the other meaning.

Of course the staff have authority on what is done on the site, but that has nothing to do with the point he made.

Isn't the point of this thread not to debate the meaning of the word but to have something changed on fakku? If that changed suddenly then you should move the debate to SD or Random. We took your feedback but we wont be adding new tags at the moment. I don't know how to be more clear about that.

Shag you end your points with insults or inflammatory comments, but you often post in this section as if you want actual changes. Do you think your words lend aid to your causes? Might want to dial down angst ridden kid routine if you want things to change on Fakku.

It is, but you were not replying to the topic in general, but to a single point when you said this:



And this has nothing to do about the general matter of the topic, just a single reply in it, and it was the point I was making in saying you did indeed miss the point and not the other way around.

It would have made sense if you were talking about the topic in general and didn't quote anything or mentioned someone's post, but you weren't.

Again, I'm not saying you said anything wrong (and this applies to the following replies on the same subject as well), but you're really missing the point in saying it replying to that in specific, because it just doesn't make sense.

Protip:
Don't want futa in your yuri? Just search "yuri -futa"

That damn simple.

(Really, minus rep for a useful suggestion to help you avoid things while a long term solution is made? Surely there is someone more deserving of your once daily plus rep than wasting it on minusing me.)

I guess the point is that you can't know when its girl on futa or futa on futa because both can be tagged the same.

I don't think the tagging is wrong for the reason I already mentioned (the story tends to say if the character is a girl or not, so it doesn't have the ambiguous problem), but the suggested tags on page 1 would solve this of futa-futa and futa-girl problem.

I don't agree with it "not being yuri" though, it is, you just can't know what kind because of the issue above.

Hmm, I do see your point: people might become psyched for a manga then go to its mainpage to see a tag they don't want.

Maybe popup hover text could be implemented on mouseovers on pages that can't fit all a manga preview's tags?

Not for the same reasons, but I do have to agree that tagging doujins with both "Futa" and "Yuri" tags is something that should be discontinued.


Reason?

Redundant.


At least 80% of the futa doujins have the futagirls banging either regular girls or other futagirls.

Rare are the cases where they're with men.


One can assume that any Futa doujin is gonna be Yuri by default. If people wish to find one where it's Futa with male, the "Femdom" tag could be used.

Ergo:

Anything with futas = Futanari

Girl + Girl = Yuri

Futa + Guy = Futanari, Femdom


That should keep everything pretty well tagged, and cut down on the whining.

Right... and? Kaimax responded and then I did, neither of us agreed with you. That should be the end of it.



I also replied to the topic in general in that very post and the one made previously but someone took offense when I said Kaimax had authority on the matter. I don't understand, am I not allowed to pull out points when I see fault in them? Someone maintains Kaimax isn't an authority on the subject and I say he is where it matters. I understand what you're saying but my point supersedes any other because we're on this website where the changed are being debated.



I don't see the issue, if 80% have it that means 20% doesn't so for the 20% that doesn't why not keep it the way it is? Having 2 tags rather than 1 changes nothing. There is a positive as gizgal said, what if I want to look at yuri without futanari or what if I'm into futa on male action? Having both tags allow people the search and omit some results while narrowing down the tags changing the system may result in people seeing things they may not what to see(which is partly the point of tags).

They took offense because you missed the point (and I'm not saying you shouldn't pull out points, I'm saying you missed it, although you keep saying you didn't, and that's why I insist in this).

He said he is not an authority in word definition, not on the site. And your reply was merely saying he is an authority on the site, it doesn't make sense. It would have made if you said "he's not authority in word definition but he is on the site", but that's quite off from what you actually said, so I don't think the problem was poor choice of words.

If you really understand what I'm saying, then why you insist you did not miss the point?

But whatever, we're just gonna keep repeating ourselves over a minor thing like this, just forget it.

I'm saying I changed the point to what matters here, I was not correcting him(you're wrong he is an authority on the matter) I was countering his point that what Kaimax said had no value because it wasn't a dictionary definition of the word. As far as this matter goes Kaimax has authority. Regardless of what his point was, he is someone who decides what the word means here.

I'm repeating myself because you're repeating yourself.

Drawing attention to a mistake is not always intended as an insult. there is such a thing as constructive criticism. i'm sorry if i hurt your feelings, but i felt that you're repeated failure (or possible refusal) to grasp what was being said required a blunt approach.


While in this instance i did indeed make statements directed at you, any time someone questions the way things are done on this site, you seem to take it as a personal attack and your cartman complex kicks in. the repeated reply, 'that's the way it is because we are in charge', comes off as rude and dismissve. this is what irks people.



OT:


i disagree and the literal translation of 'futanari' supports this in that it specifies neither gender. as i said before, i can see the reasoning behind adding yuri or yaoi if not all parties are futa. however, if all parties involved are futa, it should not have a yuri tag.

Constructive criticism, oh boy.



How is that in any way constructive criticism?

What makes you think I take them as personal attacks? I respond with factual statements indicating why things are the way they are. Often the reasoning is not to your liking, tough shit. I also haven't asked you why I irk people so why try to explain it? I know people don't like what I say, that won't stop me from saying it. I'm just telling you not to end your points with insults unless you seek to undermine your goals and the goals of others.

Where did you get the impression I was asking you for advice or to explain something in my last post?

Like it or not you have to deal with me and if you really do want something to change here on Fakku the way you're going about it is all wrong. I'm not telling you to get on your knees or stop thinking the way you think, but coming here asking for things to change while lacing every sentence you type with poison wont net you much gain.

SO, futa on female is yuri, or not?

Its funny how you just can't understand it.

You know this topic is about the futa-on-female situation...

A yuri tag still applies...