Berserk

lol I don't think I'm as funny as Demo though.

There was nothing wrong with UBW's execution of the route, as they left out all the non-essential BS and took the establishing and most interesting parts and made a great anime out of it. Also, as usual UFOtable has 10/10 fight scenes.

That being said, the anime didn't really cover the entirety of UBW - the date did happen, but the way it went in anime was slightly different.

The only travesty anime was Fate/Stay Night, but you can't blame them for that too much - Fate was a travesty route in the VN.

However, the UBW movie was fucking stupid, poorly paced, and had terrible fight choreography (something that's actually important for UBW, considering Shirou is Archer's present self). I'd rather drink Windex than see that shit again.

Yeah, I've heard a few things about f/s n being average. Is it just fate route? or is it all routes? I'd heard it was all at one stage, which is one reason it was bad

TL;DR All routes are flawed in lots of ways, Heaven's Feel is just the least flawed of the three and has a decent story to tell.

If you want to play the VN at some point, I recommend finding a download that has save data with both UBW and Fate routes completed, so that you can start with the best route.

Also, it's not as horrendous as I make it out to be the first time you play, but then as you play more you notice more flaws.

Yeah, I did read about the tsukihime remake. Definitely keen as fuck for that. I should play the original. The manga is one of my favourites
I did get a download of f/sn that had all three routes separate, so you could only do one route or something from the get go

What would you recommend as a decent VN? I liked all of F/S N's routes (granted fate being the weakest and UBW being my favorite), but you seem to have a grasp on what makes a good VN. So I'd like to know your opinion.

No VN is perfect, but there are some ones I recommend more than others. Despite its flaws, F/SN is a good 'starter VN' and I often recommend it to people starting out. Also on that list is Katawa Shoujo, which I consider the best starter VN, bar-none (because it's incredibly user-friendly and the choices have fairly realistic consequences).

As for something you'd like if you've already played a few VNs and wants something amazing, G-Senjou no Maou is my favorite VN of all time. The plot is intriguing but not too convoluted, the characters are given ample development, the pacing is fairly consistent, and the endings will literally make you cry. The music score is damn good, too.

Also, there are lots of mind fucks and mysteries to solve - it's a highly intellectual game that you can play several times and still miss things, but it clearly demonstrates everything important to the plot in a way that's easy enough to understand that you won't be super confused, either.

It's by no means the perfect VN, as such a thing doesn't exist, but it has good scripting with little to no errors and the translations are generally good. The premise isn't too ridiculous to cope with and there aren't any critical plot holes, though some minor ones exist and can be found if you watch carefully for them.

As for others I've played, here's a list but in no particular order but I've bolded the ones that I played multiple times, to give you an idea about which ones I preferred:

Fate/Hollow Ataraxia
Fate/Stay NightHeaven's Feel Route
Steins;Gate
Symphonic Rain
Kara no Shoujo
Eien no Aselia
Hoshizora no Memoria
Sharin no Kuni, Himawari no shoujo
Shinken de Watashi ni Koi Shinasai!

Alright I'll look into those aside from Steins;Gate which I already played. Thanks

Play the souls' games. It's a playable berserk, and you create your own guts.