solutions10 wrote...
No, I'm not, love, and saying ads will go away if you ignore them enough is lunacy. With popularity and being free-to-access, ads are there. They'll always be there, and if you move to another site because this one, or any one, gets too many ads, then that one will become popular and *also* require more ads. It's how a ton of Internet revenue works, you can't make it go away by ignoring it with that kind of dead-end logic.
Never once did I say they would "go away" and I'm actually having a little trouble finding how you derived that from my words. I was stating the liability of making ads more intrusive often hurts companies more than they help, meaning that universally more obtuse ads would be unlikely, and that the method you cited to support a page (clicking an ad and then closing the page quickly) wouldn't work very well.
solutions10 wrote...
Look how well that's working on any huge free site, like CNN, CNET, or YouTube. How do you account for those places still existing, when they have an astonishing amount of advertising? There isn't an alternative to those sites, and if there ever is, when people migrate to it, then that will require ads to handle the cost of traffic. That's how Internet traffic works.
The sites you cite are are huge monopolies, something most sites will likely never enjoy. Just because 0.1% of sites can essentially do whatever they want (
Youtube seems to be doing that a lot as of late...) doesn't mean all advertising outlets will become more obtuse. You can't generalize based solely on how things work on the highest tier. Sites will only advertise what they perceive to be the amount users are willing to put up with for the content they have; more essential content, more ad viability (with the inverse being true as well).
I'm still not saying they will "go away" or anything like that (in fact, a lot of that paragraph is agreeing with you, saying large sites like Youtube can advertize greatly if their content is essential due to no practical alternatives).
solutions10 wrote...
And don't be a patronizing jerk-off while you're busy calling people ignorant and making absurdly short-sighted generalized statements about the most basic function of Internet advertising.
I question exactly where I was being a "patronizing jerk off" by citing business school 101's and a wiki page on how cookies work. My only points were: universally more obtuse advertisements are unlikely, and don't close a page too fast or your banner click won't count. I don't know where you're getting a lot of this other stuff from...