Echo's Estate

[color=#993300]Granted, that sounded a lot better in my head. But who said it had to be fighting tournaments. And what's preventing me from claiming my own power or special skill. I'm a pretty nifty archer and gunblade. Plus, isn't part of the point of roleplaying to assume something we can't normally do?

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well like I said you can gain any kind of power or ability but you have to have someone that can teach you or give it to you. Im not stopping anyone from having skills. They just don't automatically start with them.

This could make the way the player wants to fight different depending on the player. If the player wants to be all powerful and fight himself then he picks all supporting reps in order to make himself stronger. Or if he wants the others to fight he picks battle reps to duke it out in his name. I think this sounds coolest.

Indeed, a good compromise.


Als, you will make a new topic or just edit this one?

[color=#993300]The point of the ideas was to revive this thread, but seeing how quickly this can be expanded, it may move on to another thread as well.



[color=#993300]Ah technicalities, technicalities. Now the problem becomes how to dictate a person's stats. For now, I just say let it be all text and no numbers. Creating an method will take a while. Now I do want to make a prototype player card. If you mind, can I make the card of you first? The idea is that they will slightly resemble the layout of my waifu's picture, but I can do a smaller more card like version as well.

You could check some GURPS manual, someone probably made animu statistics/campaigns.
Or make a spreadsheet with known powers and all that... weeee, will take time.

Im still wondering what you want by saying stats. If a player isn't a combatant and instead has is reps do all the fighting then he wouldn't have any stats right? the ones doing the fighting are the ones that have stats. The issue I see is unless we want to assign stats to every rep then if we are picking anime characters the players all have to know that character and understand what they are capable of in order to have the fight come out properly.

About the card, I don't know what you intend so just make one and then tell me about it and we will see

If someone is a active character, then wouldn't we make stats for him, and mirror+sum to the player?
The player is a mask, we get stats from his characters. If it's another user, then put his skills on the said spreadsheet. Then it's a matter of creating system.


Though first, we need a template, so first let Sneaky give us his view of a player card.

Ok this was the biggest thing that caught me about your post. The game should not be like that. That looks like a big joke and I want this game to be a seriously done. Besides it looks like those 'abilities' would be my own inherit ones which we already said there won't be.

[color=#993300]Rather,it should be:
Oppai of lightning- The weight of the hunks of meat don't matter, boost speed of all characters by 50%


[color=#993300]That's sort of my point. If we'd have to assign stats to each substitute/representative, it'd take forever. Rather, I think it is the player that should be assigned the stats. The ability of a player as a leader partly affects the subs' ability to perform. Plus, I'd like to have each player get a leader skill that affects the entire team or something of the like.

But if we need to assign stats to characters, I say each character gets X amount of points to be distributed across different attributes.

Yes, but I'm joking most of the time... Sowy.
Also, we haven't even defined the mechanics, my mind is going from tabletop to simple E-S rank Fate systems.


But, what about the rest? That's the real post ._.

well if every character gets the same amount of strength points then characters that are super powerful in their source material could lose to super weak characters. A comparison I think everyone could understand, It would be like Krillin from Dragon ball Z beating Super Sayian 3 Goku. I would want the game to be truthful to the actual characters abilites. I understand that creates worries about balance. But isn't there a way we can have both? like in order to use super strong reps the player has to complete a bunch of other tasks or build up some kind of points or something.

I do think that the player himself should have an effect on his reps. im not sure what form that will take but he should have some kind of skill I think

[color=#993300]This is where the other attributes come into play as well. Just because someone's strong doesn't mean they can land a hit. Just like carrying a bazooka doesn't mean you can blow up a plane. And, of course, there are each subs' skills as well. In the case of Goku, his skill can be, for example, a strength booster where he can break over the limit of strength. So say if he has a strength of 10/10. His skill can, say square that so his strength is 100/10

I understand your notion about being strong doesn't mean you can hit but most of the powerful characters are also very fast. So thats why I think you can have these super powerful and super fast characters but there are conditions to bringing them out. What could often be pretty harsh conditions. The first thing I think of is like the card game Magic the Gathering. There are a lot of really strong cards but the really strong cards have a very high mana cost and it can take forever to get them out. Another thing we could do is maybe this super strong rep has some kind of negative effect when he is called to fight. This could tie into the characters personality Like maybe he refuses to have "weaklings" fight with him, beacuse he thinks everyone but him is weak, so in the game he is the only rep that can be used at a time. Other negative effects are possible to. This would help with balenceing

[color=#993300]Sorry about that, went to grab some dinner.
I enjoy the idea of "team cost" in a sense as a sort of balancing agent. But that would require a lot of numbers and time to find the numbers. Plus, I hoped that this would only be partly based on numbers. It'd be numbers and roleplaying. I think adding such a thing would be quite tedious. If anything, we should start off small and move on from there.

alright. how would you propose it starts out as?

[color=#993300]Nothing too complex. Just get everyone their player cards and register their subs. I think a registration system would work very well when people want to choose their sub/rep (we're going to need multiple people for this and if it really takes off into its own thing, we're going to need to start a new thread). After assembling teams, assemble a small fighting tournament with no actual numbers and see how we can apply numbers from the trial run. I don't have time to design the cards now since I have two finals, one tomorrow and one Monday. But after them I can start discussing with you the design.

So you are saying we have a beta test. Sounds like a perfect Idea. I think thats exactly what we should do. And don't worry about that cards right away. Finish your school stuff first.

by the way how many representatives should each player get?

[color=#993300]I think 5 would be a good number. So you have yourself as the leader and your 5 reps/subs (I just keep calling them subs because I'm getting some of these ideas based of a game I know). The cards won't be too hard, just need to have a template then be able to slide in pictures and write the necessary blurbs and stats.