Fuck the Police

Take the fact that cops are cops and consider them as people for just a moment. Do people who feel alienated often lash out violently?

It's not hard to converse or relate with Mr. John Doe. Officer Doe is not and isn't expected to be the same person as Mr.Doe. You also do not stand on equal footing with Officer Doe.

People whom society has given power and authority are expected to act in a responsible way. Being skeptical or wary of those with authority and power isn't unnatural, and many past and current incidents add to that disdain.(Especially those where no one is held accountable) No one rational believes that every single officer out there is or is willingly to abuse their power but outreach and reform is pretty hard when you have a shit ton of skeletons in your closet.

Every corporation has policies that they enforce and people they employ to handle that enforcement. Why are law enforcement officers seen in a such a different light then? Both of them have the capability to bring serious detriment to one's life if they abuse their power. I think the primary difference lies in the fact that any and every negative event that takes place with law enforcement services are blown completely out of proportion by media companies, while very few people hear about Mary Anne working in an office who was unfairly fired because she posed a threat to her superiors.

For every negative past event and incident there is at least one or more positive events that outweigh those in law enforcement. This map should put things into perspective. Realistically authoritative abuse cases make up a small percentage of the overall amount of crimes that are reported each year that law enforcement services help resolve.

I agree that one should caution those who hold authority precisely because they have the capability of abusing their power. But not giving them respect as humans in dealing with them like you would ordinary people and alienating them as outsiders in society is more than caution, it's fear driven disdain brought on by a constant flow of negative outlooks. It also exacerbates the issue, leading those people who feel alienated to respond in violent or inappropriate ways.

One is a public entity made to "serve the public", the other although an obligation to not do anything illegal or harmful, is still very much private.





I agree that media companies and many journalist often don't care about objectivity and have HUGE conflicts on interest. That however doesn't excuse that a lot of "overblown" situations, not much is left accountable. Perhaps there's a systematic problem because whistle blowing is encouraged more than in change of policies or ethics.




Lack of respect despite them being "humans" isn't really the issue, I think. People who praise cop killers or spite all officers are few, and the anti-authority crowd will never go away unless maybe directly benefiting from their presence(maybe). For most people it's as I said earlier, you do not stand on equal footing as cop such a relationship is hard unless you personally the guy/girl.

Loosing ones job, because somebody abused power is not as bad as loosing ones life, because somebody abused power.

That would be an interesting hypothesis. Like as you said Cruz said, Police are basically are at an evaluated position even if the person himself is just a everyday guy that everyone can relate to so it makes it hard to be friendly with your local officer because that badge puts him a position of power which you don't have. Also as humans we naturally lash out against authority because that said power is abused, people won't appreciate having being helped by said power, and because there are people paint the picture of what bad authority is often shown than what good authority looks like.

First, people have natural disdain for authority figures. Think back when you were a kid, there was always a moment where you wanted to do something that you wanted to but said mother or father stopped because it wouldn't be in your best interest. Instead of thinking of what you're doing as bad you automatically grow dislike towards said authority figure even if they had your best interest at heart and/or what you're doing was wrong. The same I said with police officers. Even if you do the right thing, they are still criticized and ostracized for their actions even if they are ethically right. Those people who feel that outnumber those who feel counteratcivately which isn't helped by bad apples who makes the sterotype that all authority figures are jerks. But in reality we are jerks to each other but it's the officer's duty to make sure that jerkiness doesn't disturb the peace and order. Secondly, looking at historical aspect can you grasp why we, the common people, dislike naturally said authority figures. History has tendency to remember the abuses done by our pervious leaders which causes to have a natural reaction to decentralize that power because of what those few bad people did. So we all assume that in position of power, you will most likely assume that they are to abuse it so we grow "justified mistrust" of those authority figures but on the say, those in authority don't trust the common person because we're wild without the presence of order and peace and also we are habitually stupid in their eyes as well. So a cycle of mistrust forms in which both sides grow more explosive. So the common people on every officer for one mistake and every officer gives a person a bad time because disorderly we act even if they're people in the middle who are either. This is suppose to be a check and balance but it happens more often than it should because the officer who lashes out only wants to serve and protect usually and the person just wants to live his life with least amount of difficult as possible. When either one overstep the boundary, that said cycle of mistrust grows until it reaches a boiling point.

I honestly don't care about the police, they do their thing and I do mine. We steer clear of each other.

Also, nice name change pyre ^_^ is that your real name?

Fuck the police coming straight from the underground, a young nigga got it bad cause he's brown.

You do know that the Police actually reject people above a certain IQ level? Their rationale is that people who are too smart would become bored with police work and quit quicker, thus wasting money spent training them. So we purposely have people of moderate intelligence level enforcing the law and wielding lethal weapons.

As for me, I haven't had any problems with the police because generally I give them no reason to mess with me. I've done some pretty dumb things, but nothing that would attract the popo

Coppers need to start minding there own business



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OT: Depends on the type of police. The polices I've met so far are strict yet kind people.

You rang, nigga?

OT: Personally never had any trouble with cops myself anywhere, but I know for a fact that there are some corrupt cops in this country that basically bias against anyone who can't really pay them off or benefit them in any way. Politics, yo.

Poor guy.

Just because it's a private entity doesn't mean it's any less free from the scrutiny of the public.



I'm not saying the "overblown" situations should be excused or are excusable or that whistle blowing should be discouraged any less. In fact I'm fairly satisfied that society is willing to give these matters the attention they deserve. But, if people had their attention brought to the many ethical acts that police officers commit every day, often putting their own lives on the line to do so, people would begin to see that authoritative abuse is an underlying issue with society itself and the way officers are chosen and trained, not just some issue that automatically gets placed on law enforcement services simply because "it's the popo".



They aren't as few as you'd think, the negative attention that law enforcement agencies see is growing every day and to the detriment of our societies. Even if cops don't receive the attention directly from the people themselves it's hard to deny the obvious anti-authority dissent taking place in popular media and music today, which is slowly affecting public opinion.

Not standing on equal footing is a misconception, if you haven't done anything wrong they have no authority over you, if anything they're under far more scrutiny by the system because they're police officers. The only time they do have authority over you is when you fucked up and got caught breaking a law, in which case you should just accept what you've done is wrong and let them do their job.

Now that's an eye opener. I guess people who want to get into police can lower their results but still, interesting intel.

I can't say I've ever been in any serious trouble concerning the police, so they typically don't bother me in the slightest. I did, however, get caught shoplifting in a K-Mart (something small; like, under $5) when I was around 9-10 and they just called my parents to come pick me up. The guy was trying to say that he could send me to jail, but come on... How long do you think they'd keep a 9-year old that stole a $4 toy?

I have been pulled over several times, but it's always been for something stupid and they usually just let me go. Though I know they probably stop me because I look suspicious; a big dude getting into a little purple car (my grandmother's car) at a gas station at 2am. That must send off all sorts of red flags for them. There was also a span of time when I was around 17-19 that cops would always stop me while walking and think I was some guy name "Cody". That got pretty annoying.

Regardless, I agree that news stations should start paying more attention to some of the good police acts. Should they continue broadcasting the "bad" acts? Absolutely, but this is getting ridiculous. The only time I ever hear about a police officer on the news is because he/she shot somebody or whatever and it's getting to the point where people are starting to think that all cops are terrible people. I was raised on the idea that the police are your friends and if you ever needed help, go find them, but I'm not so sure these days.

Edit: Sorry about that like triple post! I deleted them, of course. For some reason, Fakku! kept saying it was under maintenance and when the post finally went through, it posted three of 'em!

Blaming media for almost anything is pretty stupid in my opinion. Media stations are capital enterprises, their purpose is to make money (with the exception maybe to some government owned news sites). Their purpose is to get as many viewers as possible. A news station that would only show how happy and good and great life is and how wonderful everybody is doing would not achieve this. You know why? Because people would not watch that. People watch news stations that cover the most horrible and the most horrific events.

If you have the choice between news stations where one is covering an issue of police helping somebody out and the other is a case where police has shot somebody, which one would you watch?

If you have the choice between news stations where one is covering an issue of charity organization helping African kids and the other is covering Boko Haram massacre in some African country, which one would you watch?

Even if you yourself would pick the first one on both of those examples, most of the people would not, they much rather watch the cover of the latter story. And this is part of the reason why you get this skewed perspective on how things really are, because news organizations are competing for viewers and the best way to get those viewers is the covering of sad events.

Edit: Example of one day (today), CNN main stories were the Malaysian Airliner that got shot down, the massive floods in India and in Pakistan, the American football player who hit his wife and got kicked out of NFL and the floods that are happening in States too. (I watched CNN only for an hour so its possible they had more to cover).

Because not everyone has something fucked up happen in their lives right? In highschool I forced myself to watch live gore on the web, now i rarely watch news on tv.

And yet some of the most popular videos on youtube are about people committing heroic acts and cute animals doing cute things.

Media misrepresentation and bias is real.

Police are just people that were given power that was meant to be used to protect. Whether they actually use it for that unfortunately is up to them on some level until someone strips them of it. People given the same power the police are given can't say they wouldn't do the same until they have that power. The police aren't saints, but they also aren't the devils they are often made out to be in modern times. Everything they do may not be just, and some may be corrupt, but without them we would almost certainly be worse off.