The Berzerker, greatest grindcore band?
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Do you agree with me when I say that The Berzerker is the greatest grindcore band there is?
They are one of the few grindcore bands that actually has something to say with their lyrics, and one of the few who actually stands for something: misanthropy to be exact.
If you haven't heard 'em, and like grindcore, then you should really check 'em out. But if you don't like the most brutal genre there is, or even metal for that matter, then DON'T watch!
They are one of the few grindcore bands that actually has something to say with their lyrics, and one of the few who actually stands for something: misanthropy to be exact.
If you haven't heard 'em, and like grindcore, then you should really check 'em out. But if you don't like the most brutal genre there is, or even metal for that matter, then DON'T watch!
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Depends on what kind of grindcore. I'd say those who dwell to much on their metal influences generally get monotome. The Berzerker have some interesting influences, but in the end they still ended up like most death metal.
I'd say they fail at being great because they'd rather be badass heavy than actually doing something creative.
Not that I'm all-knowing on the subject. I dismissed them as just another metal-band after about 5-tracks, and when I checked them out just now again, nothing has changed.
Perhaps you could post some more Industrial/Experimental The Berzerker track than I've been able to find, as that is what I was looking for.
I'd say they fail at being great because they'd rather be badass heavy than actually doing something creative.
Not that I'm all-knowing on the subject. I dismissed them as just another metal-band after about 5-tracks, and when I checked them out just now again, nothing has changed.
Perhaps you could post some more Industrial/Experimental The Berzerker track than I've been able to find, as that is what I was looking for.
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dålif wrote...
Depends on what kind of grindcore. I'd say those who dwell to much on their metal influences generally get monotome. The Berzerker have some interesting influences, but in the end they still ended up like most death metal. I'd say they fail at being great because they'd rather be badass heavy than actually doing something creative.
Not that I'm all-knowing on the subject. I dismissed them as just another metal-band after about 5-tracks, and when I checked them out just now again, nothing has changed.
Perhaps you could post some more Industrial/Experimental The Berzerker track than I've been able to find, as that is what I was looking for.
And the only industrial crap they've made is the noisecore things, such as Ode To Nash and InHale.
And of course you think they're monotone if you don't like the genre. And they actually have no influences (as stated by Luke Kenny, the singer), they are the first band to ever play the type of grindcore called "cybergrind".
But I can understand what you're saying about them, The Berzerker is a band whom which you can only like if you're an extremist of the genre. or at least close to an extremist. I for an example love almost all grindcore, although I only listen to a chosen few, mostly The Berzerker, Disgorge, Fuck I'm Dead and Haemorrhage. And they're creative, just the lyrics are badass creative, and being the first truly brutal heavy band is creative too, and mixing it with cyber sounds is also creative. one of the few bands that came before The Berzerker with almost this level of brutality is Napalm Death, and they're nothing to The Berzerker.
Anyway, this thread is really for fans of grindcore, but think what you want ^^ I'll stand on The Berzerkers side no matter what ^^
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FrozenAngel wrote...
And they actually have no influences (as stated by Luke Kenny, the singer), they are the first band to ever play the type of grindcore called "cybergrind".Stating that they have no influences, that's just something that looks independant on papers. Reality sadly doesn't work that way, and people with no influences are those few who have never had any sensory functions functional. And I guess they are not even capable of a single thougth, creative or not.
There are various forms of grindcore, and The Berzerker have huge influences from extreme metal, and not so much else. When I found them on Wikipedia, they stated Speedcore, Industrial, Gabber influences, hence my dissapointment.
Cybergrind seems accurate, althougth I personally associate it with Maruosa and similar acts.
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dålif wrote...
FrozenAngel wrote...
And they actually have no influences (as stated by Luke Kenny, the singer), they are the first band to ever play the type of grindcore called "cybergrind".Stating that they have no influences, that's just something that looks independant on papers. Reality sadly doesn't work that way, and people with no influences are those few who have never had any sensory functions functional. And I guess they are not even capable of a single thougth, creative or not.
There are various forms of grindcore, and The Berzerker have huge influences from extreme metal, and not so much else. When I found them on Wikipedia, they stated Speedcore, Industrial, Gabber influences, hence my dissapointment.
Cybergrind seems accurate, althougth I personally associate it with Maruosa and similar acts.
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FrozenAngel wrote...
"Marousa"? and how the hell can you say that you need influences? how did everything start then? and wikipedia... you do know that it's not anyone who knows the band that has written that article? and that everyone can change what is written there?Let's not go into a discussion on how everything started, because I have nothing solid on that one question.
What I know however is that cause and effect is a pretty solid model for our reality. We enjoy making music because we heard sound firsthand and combined with our capability to process and make sense of our impressions we organized sound. To claim that music can be created without influences is like saying we would enjoy music if we couldn't hear.
If you consider influences as everything that orginates from outside yourself, you realise that you are nothing but another bag of influences, mutated and distorted to some extent.
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Well i don´t think...anyone can say... if a band is the greatest in their genre. I think it's impossible to know every existing band.
I heard them, and like them.
though, my personal favorite band in this genre is !T.O.O.H.! (The Obliteration Of Humanity)... at least i believe they fit in the grind genre, if not, they have strong grind influences.
You should hear them...they are really good...especially the album RÃ d a Trest (Order & Punishment)
I heard them, and like them.
though, my personal favorite band in this genre is !T.O.O.H.! (The Obliteration Of Humanity)... at least i believe they fit in the grind genre, if not, they have strong grind influences.
You should hear them...they are really good...especially the album RÃ d a Trest (Order & Punishment)
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Vichyx wrote...
Well i don´t think...anyone can say... if a band is the greatest in their genre. I think it's impossible to know every existing band.I heard them, and like them.
though, my personal favorite band in this genre is !T.O.O.H.! (The Obliteration Of Humanity)... at least i believe they fit in the grind genre, if not, they have strong grind influences.
You should hear them...they are really good...especially the album RÃ d a Trest (Order & Punishment)
And I'm talking about opinions, not fact, I think they're the greatest grind band.