Theories of INFINITY
Are you afraid of the unquestioned or the unknown?
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This forum is about infinity and situations that include infinity, it's basically about how everything that includes infinity is a paradox.
EXAMPLE: If 10 hats are inserted into a container and 9 hats were taken out, and this procedure would continue at intervals half of the past interval (start 100s, then do again at 50s, the againat 25, etc etc.) How many hats would there be at time 0?
infinity
EXAMPLE: If 10 hats are inserted into a container and 9 hats were taken out, and this procedure would continue at intervals half of the past interval (start 100s, then do again at 50s, the againat 25, etc etc.) How many hats would there be at time 0?
infinity
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OK... here's a simpler example,
if you have infinite doujins and u have infinite speed but you only have one second to read them how many will you read in that one second?
if you have infinite doujins and u have infinite speed but you only have one second to read them how many will you read in that one second?
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Regarding your first example: If you half the intervals you will never reach a time of 0.00.
Second example: The requirements cannot be fulfilled.
Infinite doujins requires infinite paper, infinite wood, infinite space.
Since your infinite doujins demand infinite space, there's no more room for you, therefore you can't read them, no matter how fast you are.
"Infinity" is a term you should use with caution, or you might end up consulting your local "brain specialist".
And by the way, I feel a strong urge to be a smart-ass:
A single topic, like this one, is usually called a "thread", not a "forum".
A forum is the FAKKU board as a whole.
Second example: The requirements cannot be fulfilled.
Infinite doujins requires infinite paper, infinite wood, infinite space.
Since your infinite doujins demand infinite space, there's no more room for you, therefore you can't read them, no matter how fast you are.
"Infinity" is a term you should use with caution, or you might end up consulting your local "brain specialist".
And by the way, I feel a strong urge to be a smart-ass:
A single topic, like this one, is usually called a "thread", not a "forum".
A forum is the FAKKU board as a whole.
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Nacho, you've accomplished your goal of being a smart-ass!
However for the second example i was trying to get an answer out of David... and i know the damn requirements could never be fulfilled but that is why the concept of INFINITY is a bloody paradox because no matter what example you use it in there is always a FINITE factor no matter what you do!!!!
But i was trying to lead up to that you frigging jerk!
However for the second example i was trying to get an answer out of David... and i know the damn requirements could never be fulfilled but that is why the concept of INFINITY is a bloody paradox because no matter what example you use it in there is always a FINITE factor no matter what you do!!!!
But i was trying to lead up to that you frigging jerk!
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Nomad wrote...
i know the damn requirements could never be fulfilled but that is why the concept of INFINITY is a bloody paradox because no matter what example you use it in there is always a FINITE factor no matter what you do!!!!Since you already know this, what's the point of this thread?
Aside from the purpose to randomly insult people. :roll:
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York wrote...
Heres a better example that everyone can understand.What is the circumference of a Moose?
XD hahaha I know I heard that somewhere but I cant recall where
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nacho wrote...
Since you already know this, what's the point of this thread? :roll:
The point was to see what other people thought of infinity, it's an abstract idea... i wanted to see what other people thought of it, and despite the fact that infinity is a paradox it still exists, i wanted to know why people think it still exists... I know that certain scientific theories and mathematical equations wouldn't function without it. But i wanted to know what the general peoples thought.
I don't care about what i know i want to know what people know, but i guess you put an end to that pretty fast... so i'll never start another forum that's more complex than doujins or manga again! (are you happy now?)
Do you understand why, now?
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York wrote...
Heres a better example that everyone can understand.What is the circumference of a Moose?
I know a few different answers to this one.
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Nomad wrote...
But i wanted to know what the general peoples thought.And for telling you my thoughts about it you're attacking me, is that your interpretation of a discussion?
Maybe I'm just taking you too serious.
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[Greed] wrote...
York wrote...
Heres a better example that everyone can understand.What is the circumference of a Moose?
XD hahaha I know I heard that somewhere but I cant recall where
"Ask a Ninja"- Nothing could be more random, and Awesome at the same time.
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nacho wrote...
"Infinity" is a term you should use with caution, or you might end up consulting your local "brain specialist".
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A single topic, like this one, is usually called a "thread", not a "forum".
A forum is the FAKKU board as a whole.
You were writing in a condescending manor... but maybe i misinterpreted your meaning, and i agree that i did go overboard whilst replying by insulting you, so for that i'm sorry. I hope i wasn't too much of an ass...
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First, my apologies, for "destroying" this thread.
It wasn't my intention to be condescending in any way.
My sentence about the "brain specialist" is actually a joke which you probably won't understand if you don't like british comedy, and I wasn't aware that you could take it the wrong way, like, calling you a retard.
Though I don't get it how you could take my little term explanation offensive, anyway, let's leave it at that and get back to being all friends and stuff.
Nomad wrote...
You were writing in a condescending manor...It wasn't my intention to be condescending in any way.
My sentence about the "brain specialist" is actually a joke which you probably won't understand if you don't like british comedy, and I wasn't aware that you could take it the wrong way, like, calling you a retard.
Though I don't get it how you could take my little term explanation offensive, anyway, let's leave it at that and get back to being all friends and stuff.
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'chuckle' Alright...
but i think my rep took a toll cuz of my behavior in this thread in particular...
In hope of keeping the thread alive,
i guess that the circumference of a moose is 56!
but i think my rep took a toll cuz of my behavior in this thread in particular...
In hope of keeping the thread alive,
i guess that the circumference of a moose is 56!
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I think you are approaching the idea from the wrong angle. Infinity is not a "number" per say. You say it is a concept, but you still insist on using it like a number.
If you say "I have infinite doujins" what that means is something more along the lines of "given any real number x, I have more than x doujins." Even that is a bad definition, because some real x plus any real y will always yield another real number. Even in this case, infinity can only be a "limit" concept, and in this instance isn't defined in any clear manner.
Your second question "if you have infinite doujins and u have infinite speed but you only have one second to read them how many will you read in that one second?" makes no sense and is unanswerable because infinity is not defined for either case. The only way to use infinity as a concept to evaluate something, either qualitatively or quantitatively, beyond the vague idea of infinity being "really big" is to know something about sets you are working with.
For a simple example: the limit as x goes to infinity of (2x/x) is a defined expression. Both "2x" and "x" are infinite, but you also know how they relate to each other. 2x = (2)*x.
Another more complicated idea involves such questions as "are there more real numbers or natural numbers(natural numbers are all the "whole" numbers, that is, 1,2,3,etc greater than 0)? Clearly there are infinite natural numbers and also infinite real numbers. One might think that it is obvious that there are more real numbers than natural numbers, since there are no natural numbers between 1 and 2 but there are real numbers between 1 and 2. However, how does one show that there indeed are more real numbers, if this is the case, and can we say how many more there are? How about natural numbers and rational numbers? There are also rational numbers(any number that can be expressed as a fraction, hence, 1/2 but not sqrt(2)) between 1 and 2, and like reals, between any two rational numbers there is always another rational. How do rational numbers and real number relate?
Infinity is a contradiction, but it is one we accept all the time in our everyday lives. It is simply the idea that no matter how big something is, something bigger could exist. Once we accept this, defining infinity as a "limit" expression makes sense.
If you say "I have infinite doujins" what that means is something more along the lines of "given any real number x, I have more than x doujins." Even that is a bad definition, because some real x plus any real y will always yield another real number. Even in this case, infinity can only be a "limit" concept, and in this instance isn't defined in any clear manner.
Your second question "if you have infinite doujins and u have infinite speed but you only have one second to read them how many will you read in that one second?" makes no sense and is unanswerable because infinity is not defined for either case. The only way to use infinity as a concept to evaluate something, either qualitatively or quantitatively, beyond the vague idea of infinity being "really big" is to know something about sets you are working with.
For a simple example: the limit as x goes to infinity of (2x/x) is a defined expression. Both "2x" and "x" are infinite, but you also know how they relate to each other. 2x = (2)*x.
Another more complicated idea involves such questions as "are there more real numbers or natural numbers(natural numbers are all the "whole" numbers, that is, 1,2,3,etc greater than 0)? Clearly there are infinite natural numbers and also infinite real numbers. One might think that it is obvious that there are more real numbers than natural numbers, since there are no natural numbers between 1 and 2 but there are real numbers between 1 and 2. However, how does one show that there indeed are more real numbers, if this is the case, and can we say how many more there are? How about natural numbers and rational numbers? There are also rational numbers(any number that can be expressed as a fraction, hence, 1/2 but not sqrt(2)) between 1 and 2, and like reals, between any two rational numbers there is always another rational. How do rational numbers and real number relate?
Infinity is a contradiction, but it is one we accept all the time in our everyday lives. It is simply the idea that no matter how big something is, something bigger could exist. Once we accept this, defining infinity as a "limit" expression makes sense.