Yaoi in FAKKU
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
Ethil wrote...
Waar wrote...
Do you honestly expect this to happen? Both the admins are against it, I mean they can't even post loli because some of the staff is completely against it (Nikon was as well). This is a pointless debate; this isnt a hentai democracy it's someone's work which is based on his own likes and dislikes. If you want yaoi or guro go elsewhere.I fail to see how that matters. This is just a discussion, people have already said that Jacob should and can do as he wants. That shouldn't stop this being discussed, whatever the admins think about it. Ain't you just against this simply for the luls?
ridiculous, have you bothered to read the rest of the thread, you know the parts where I say that I am against it and why? Why discuss a feature that will never be added to fakku?
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Tsujoi
Social Media Manager
Maxiart wrote...
Waar wrote...
Maxiart wrote...
Hey PrimaE, this might be offtopic, but from what series's your avatar?eureka 7
I had the sneaking suspicion... I was asking more about the specific hentai in which that image appears.
/notfamiliarwitheurekaseven
Source: http://diary.fc2.com/cgi-sys/ed.cgi/kazuharoom/?Y=2005&M=11&D=11
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Oh good grief I was kidding about the democracy thing, hence the whole "advocating" joke about it.
Because not even Jacob is dead set in his ways? Although I think it more likely that Fakku would just disappear before it would happen, there isn't any reason why we can't discuss the possibility of yaoi as a main component of Fakku.
Waar wrote...
ridiculous, have you bothered to read the rest of the thread, you know the parts where I say that I am against it and why? Why discuss a feature that will never be added to fakku?Because not even Jacob is dead set in his ways? Although I think it more likely that Fakku would just disappear before it would happen, there isn't any reason why we can't discuss the possibility of yaoi as a main component of Fakku.
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wow. the discussion of yaoi on a hentai site is getting serious. O.O i don't necessarily think we should have it on here. i mean, because most of us came onto fakku for hentai. i'm pretty much a fan of all three categories(hentai, yuri, and yaoi) but i don't think it matters where we find them all at :3
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
Tsurayu wrote...
Oh good grief I was kidding about the democracy thing, hence the whole "advocating" joke about it.
Oh good grief I was kidding about the democracy thing, hence the whole "advocating" joke about it.
Raze is... on this matter at least; trust me. I don't know how many times we've tried to convince him loli would be cool; he just isn't alright with it.
Tsurayu wrote...
Waar wrote...
ridiculous, have you bothered to read the rest of the thread, you know the parts where I say that I am against it and why? Why discuss a feature that will never be added to fakku?
Because not even Jacob is dead set in his ways? Although I think it more likely that Fakku would just disappear before it would happen, there isn't any reason why we can't discuss the possibility of yaoi as a main component of Fakku.
Waar wrote...
ridiculous, have you bothered to read the rest of the thread, you know the parts where I say that I am against it and why? Why discuss a feature that will never be added to fakku?
Because not even Jacob is dead set in his ways? Although I think it more likely that Fakku would just disappear before it would happen, there isn't any reason why we can't discuss the possibility of yaoi as a main component of Fakku.
Let's discuss how great America will be when we have a cyborg president, even though it will never happen; it's pointless speculation. I'm all for having civil discussions about yaoi in general and i don't mind continuing this with you but that fact is it will never happen here on fakku; why talk about it. Look, everyone still hasn't given a single valid reason why we should discuss it; everyone just keeps saying we can but you refuse to explain how it will help or benefit the community other than the get people's hopes up for something that can never happen.
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[z]NOFUTURE wrote...
No.Thank you move along.
Good crowd control <3 But with zee tags, you can avoid the yaoi
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Waar wrote...
Tsurayu wrote...
Oh good grief I was kidding about the democracy thing, hence the whole "advocating" joke about it.
Oh good grief I was kidding about the democracy thing, hence the whole "advocating" joke about it.
Raze is... on this matter at least; trust me. I don't know how many times we've tried to convince him loli would be cool; he just isn't alright with it.
Tsurayu wrote...
Waar wrote...
ridiculous, have you bothered to read the rest of the thread, you know the parts where I say that I am against it and why? Why discuss a feature that will never be added to fakku?
Because not even Jacob is dead set in his ways? Although I think it more likely that Fakku would just disappear before it would happen, there isn't any reason why we can't discuss the possibility of yaoi as a main component of Fakku.
Waar wrote...
ridiculous, have you bothered to read the rest of the thread, you know the parts where I say that I am against it and why? Why discuss a feature that will never be added to fakku?
Because not even Jacob is dead set in his ways? Although I think it more likely that Fakku would just disappear before it would happen, there isn't any reason why we can't discuss the possibility of yaoi as a main component of Fakku.
Let's discuss how great America will be when we have a cyborg president, even though it will never happen; it's pointless speculation. I'm all for having civil discussions about yaoi in general and i don't mind continuing this with you but that fact is it will never happen here on fakku; why talk about it. Look, everyone still hasn't given a single valid reason why we should discuss it; everyone just keeps saying we can but you refuse to explain how it will help or benefit the community other than the get people's hopes up for something that can never happen.
How would it not benefit? It's just another form of hentai. How could Fakku not stand to benefit from offering more genres of hentai on the site? I have to admit I get a little aggravated that some people are so dead set against it just because they don't like. It's like, since when does your (general people, not anyone specifically) opinion get to decide what we can and cannot have. I mean don't get me wrong, I'm sure that's not Jacob's line of reasoning, but I can't help, but feel it is with some of the members. There are members on Fakku who like and would appreciate yaoi. I just want to know there is a better reason than just because the majority doesn't want it. This may not be a democracy, but just because some people don't like yaoi means no one can get it? That's just crap.
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@Tsurayu: Loli is one thing, besides that it's illegal. As for guro, tell me a percentage of people who actually dig guro - I can guarantee it's less than you imagine. But as for other forms, I do agree that yaoi should be posted because we have yuri. FAKKU! has a female base as well, so offering yaoi wouldn't hurt, but as mentioned before, if the creators of the site don't want yaoi, then we won't have it. You'll have to really try to convince them that yaoi should be uploaded here or else it's not going to happen. The problem with any democracy is whether or not the people at the top will actually act on the opinions of the masses, which applies here.
In some ways, the way this discussion is heading is reminding me of my last thread on rep.
In some ways, the way this discussion is heading is reminding me of my last thread on rep.
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If it were to be added it should have its own section, which is NOT in the image or nosebleed sections, but that's just my own opinion. I'm all for the female fan base to have what they want, yay equality and all that, but I don't want to look at it.
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I'd like to see some yaoi on this site. Me personally would probably not read it much(Emphasis on the Much, since I enjoy it from time to time) but as it's a big genre that many enjoys I think the site would actually benefit from offering it.
As for guro and other stuff like that I think the site should have that up to. But tag it so that no one stumbles over it by mistake.
As for guro and other stuff like that I think the site should have that up to. But tag it so that no one stumbles over it by mistake.
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There is nothing wrong with yaoi, i may not be a fan, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be on here.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
Tsurayu wrote...
Waar wrote...
Tsurayu wrote...
Oh good grief I was kidding about the democracy thing, hence the whole "advocating" joke about it.
Oh good grief I was kidding about the democracy thing, hence the whole "advocating" joke about it.
Raze is... on this matter at least; trust me. I don't know how many times we've tried to convince him loli would be cool; he just isn't alright with it.
Tsurayu wrote...
Waar wrote...
ridiculous, have you bothered to read the rest of the thread, you know the parts where I say that I am against it and why? Why discuss a feature that will never be added to fakku?
Because not even Jacob is dead set in his ways? Although I think it more likely that Fakku would just disappear before it would happen, there isn't any reason why we can't discuss the possibility of yaoi as a main component of Fakku.
Waar wrote...
ridiculous, have you bothered to read the rest of the thread, you know the parts where I say that I am against it and why? Why discuss a feature that will never be added to fakku?
Because not even Jacob is dead set in his ways? Although I think it more likely that Fakku would just disappear before it would happen, there isn't any reason why we can't discuss the possibility of yaoi as a main component of Fakku.
Let's discuss how great America will be when we have a cyborg president, even though it will never happen; it's pointless speculation. I'm all for having civil discussions about yaoi in general and i don't mind continuing this with you but that fact is it will never happen here on fakku; why talk about it. Look, everyone still hasn't given a single valid reason why we should discuss it; everyone just keeps saying we can but you refuse to explain how it will help or benefit the community other than the get people's hopes up for something that can never happen.
How would it not benefit? It's just another form of hentai. How could Fakku not stand to benefit from offering more genres of hentai on the site? I have to admit I get a little aggravated that some people are so dead set against it just because they don't like. It's like, since when does your (general people, not anyone specifically) opinion get to decide what we can and cannot have. I mean don't get me wrong, I'm sure that's not Jacob's line of reasoning, but I can't help, but feel it is with some of the members. There are members on Fakku who like and would appreciate yaoi. I just want to know there is a better reason than just because the majority doesn't want it. This may not be a democracy, but just because some people don't like yaoi means no one can get it? That's just crap.
you can get yaoi... just not here. My point isn't that it's wrong or that the majority don't like it; it's that Jacob and Raze don't. This isnt the united nations of hentai; it's fakku.
For a moment ill play along and take your argument. You want a reason how it's not benefitial having more forms of hentai? The form we're discussing is viewed poorly by the majority (as you said), don't you think there would be a drop off or even loss of people if yaoi became a part of this community. Honestly, why do you think pornography websites with bondage or scat differ from the general pornography sites? Why are they segmented? Yaoi may be hentai but it's a sub genre of hentai that has a much smaller niche group of fans. If you want yaoi, I would suggest you find a good yaoi website. I'm not speaking simply on behalf of my own opinion of yaoi, my line of thinking represent the majority and thus the benefit of Fakku in general. Let's face it; Fakku is about the numbers and your idea could only serve to slow the increase of new members.
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Waar wrote...
you can get yaoi... just not here. My point isn't that it's wrong or that the majority don't like it; it's that Jacob and Raze don't. This isnt the united nations of hentai; it's fakku. For a moment ill play along and take your argument. You want a reason how it's not benefitial having more forms of hentai? The form we're discussing is viewed poorly by the majority (as you said), don't you think there would be a drop off or even loss of people if yaoi became a part of this community. Honestly, why do you think pornography websites with bondage or scat differ from the general pornography sites? Why are they segmented? Yaoi may be hentai but it's a sub genre of hentai that has a much smaller niche group of fans. If you want yaoi, I would suggest you find a good yaoi website. I'm not speaking simply on behalf of my own opinion of yaoi, my line of thinking represent the majority and thus the benefit of Fakku in general. Let's face it; Fakku is about the numbers and your idea could only serve to slow the increase of new members.
Maybe I'm just too idealistic, but if a new member, or current members, are turned off and away from Fakku just because yaoi is present, then they aren't worth having around to begin with.
You have to see how childish that is. "Eww, I'm not coming to Fakku anymore because it has yaoi too." It's like something a five-year-old would say, and a really piss poor excuse for a reason as to why a new member would decide not to join.
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Waar wrote...
I'm not speaking simply on behalf of my own opinion of yaoi, my line of thinking represent the majority and thus the benefit of Fakku in general. The majority's line of thinking doesn't necessarily benefit Fakku.
Waar wrote...
Let's face it; Fakku is about the numbers and your idea could only serve to slow the increase of new members.Nobody is going to leave or not join because they see yaoi - that is a absurd statment. Do people leave because they don't like incest or rape? or gangbangs or waterworks? No. They simply do not view it.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
Tsurayu wrote...
Waar wrote...
you can get yaoi... just not here. My point isn't that it's wrong or that the majority don't like it; it's that Jacob and Raze don't. This isnt the united nations of hentai; it's fakku. For a moment ill play along and take your argument. You want a reason how it's not benefitial having more forms of hentai? The form we're discussing is viewed poorly by the majority (as you said), don't you think there would be a drop off or even loss of people if yaoi became a part of this community. Honestly, why do you think pornography websites with bondage or scat differ from the general pornography sites? Why are they segmented? Yaoi may be hentai but it's a sub genre of hentai that has a much smaller niche group of fans. If you want yaoi, I would suggest you find a good yaoi website. I'm not speaking simply on behalf of my own opinion of yaoi, my line of thinking represent the majority and thus the benefit of Fakku in general. Let's face it; Fakku is about the numbers and your idea could only serve to slow the increase of new members.
Maybe I'm just too idealistic, but if a new member, or current members, are turned off and away from Fakku just because yaoi is present, then they aren't worth having around to begin with.
You have to see how childish that is. "Eww, I'm not coming to Fakku anymore because it has yaoi too." It's like something a five-year-old would say, and a really piss poor excuse for a reason as to why a new member would decide not to join.
regardless of how poor your opinion of their reason is... it doesn't change the fact that fakku is for mainstream hentai. If you want something more hardcore I suggest you go elsewhere (as i have said many times). Plus what does the reason people visit this site matter? I could understand if you didn't want some people to join the forum based on their reasoning but as it stands the only important number is pageviews and downloads... Did you forget that this is a business where volume wins?
@neko yaoi would deter new people from joining if they are new to hentai... we're on a hentai noob site; get used to it.