10th Dimension
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M2991 wrote...
Maybe it'll all end in 42.Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
Klorofolun wrote...
I mean really, what's left? :?Probably isn't anything. Everything has to have an end somewhere.
According to what? What Law states that there is an end. The concept of infinity is that there is no end, it just continues on forever. Sorry if I sounded derogatory, I was just trying to provide a counter-thought.
Dante1214 wrote...
Some stuff like Still shenanigans, and this video is more philosophy than science, and Although real physics provides for that possibility... no one has any idea how to really do it.I agree, but that is what makes it so interesting for me. When talking about these things, you're not dealing with certainties or fact, you're dealing with the abstract and purely hypothetical, about things you know little or nothing about.
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Quite an interesting watch. From the video it really makes you think and it seems possible that there might be more beyond what we know. Brings us to another question. Since there is intelligence in the 3rd dimenison, if there are any other sentient beings in other dimensions...
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So how does one ascend to this 10th dimension, or any other ones for that matter? I can't imagine any of us getting to any of the other dimensions as we are. :?
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thekorolev wrote...
According to what? What Law states that there is an end. The concept of infinity is that there is no end, it just continues on forever. Sorry if I sounded derogatory, I was just trying to provide a counter-thought.First you have to remember that infinity is a concept. Also infinity cannot either exist in all circumstances, or not exist in all circumstances.
Anyways, logic dictates that for there to be a beginning, there has to be an end. The universe can't be infinite because the universe had to begin somewhere (big bang, big crunch). A theory of infinite universes exist when you put the big bang and big crunch theories together to get an oscillatory universe. Since technically all matter is drawn back to a single point to undergo a big bang.
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Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
thekorolev wrote...
According to what? What Law states that there is an end. The concept of infinity is that there is no end, it just continues on forever. Sorry if I sounded derogatory, I was just trying to provide a counter-thought.First you have to remember that infinity is a concept. Also, infinity cannot either exist in all circumstances, or not exist in all circumstances.
Anyways, logic dictates that for there to be a beginning, there has to be an end. The universe can't be infinite because the universe had to begin somewhere (big bang, big crunch). A theory of infinite universes exist when you put the big bang and big crunch theories together to get an oscillatory universe. Since technically all matter is drawn back to a single point to undergo a big bang.
While logic as we understand it does dictate that there is an end after a beginning, who's to say there is a real end when dealing with oscillating universes? The concept (Big Bounce) is just a cycle of universe birth (Big Bang), death (Big Crunch), and rebirth (Big Bang). The oscillating universe theory is just one of many, it hinges on what astronomical concepts you adhere to.
All matter being drawn back to a singe point is also one of many concepts. There exist others, such as heat death, that states that the universe will reach a point of maximum entropy where everything is evenly distributed, which would result in no life but the continuance of the universe itself. All of this is hypothetical, its impossible for us at this point to truly know what is happening.
Getting back to the tenth dimension, it could turn out to be the last as could be the eleventh, or the twelfth. String Theory allows for extra dimensions. Just because everything we know is contained in ten dimensions doesn't mean that that is all there is.
When dealing with theoretical physics, certainties are rare and theories and concepts get changed all the time.
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ZeroOBK wrote...
I always find things like these interesting. Thanks for sharing.
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thekorolev wrote...
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
thekorolev wrote...
According to what? What Law states that there is an end. The concept of infinity is that there is no end, it just continues on forever. Sorry if I sounded derogatory, I was just trying to provide a counter-thought.First you have to remember that infinity is a concept. Also, infinity cannot either exist in all circumstances, or not exist in all circumstances.
Anyways, logic dictates that for there to be a beginning, there has to be an end. The universe can't be infinite because the universe had to begin somewhere (big bang, big crunch). A theory of infinite universes exist when you put the big bang and big crunch theories together to get an oscillatory universe. Since technically all matter is drawn back to a single point to undergo a big bang.
While logic as we understand it does dictate that there is an end after a beginning, who's to say there is a real end when dealing with oscillating universes? The concept (Big Bounce) is just a cycle of universe birth (Big Bang), death (Big Crunch), and rebirth (Big Bang). The oscillating universe theory is just one of many, it hinges on what astronomical concepts you adhere to.
All matter being drawn back to a singe point is also one of many concepts. There exist others, such as heat death, that states that the universe will reach a point of maximum entropy where everything is evenly distributed, which would result in no life but the continuance of the universe itself. All of this is hypothetical, its impossible for us at this point to truly know what is happening.
Getting back to the tenth dimension, it could turn out to be the last as could be the eleventh, or the twelfth. String Theory allows for extra dimensions. Just because everything we know is contained in ten dimensions doesn't mean that that is all there is.
When dealing with theoretical physics, certainties are rare and theories and concepts get changed all the time.
That's because "Theoretical physics" is not science. It might one day contribute to science, but currently, it's more ideas than anything, since most of it is really provable or even testable. But it all sounds very cool and neat, and it generally sounds like it would make sense. But that doesn't make it true.
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Dante1214 wrote...
thekorolev wrote...
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
thekorolev wrote...
According to what? What Law states that there is an end. The concept of infinity is that there is no end, it just continues on forever. Sorry if I sounded derogatory, I was just trying to provide a counter-thought.First you have to remember that infinity is a concept. Also, infinity cannot either exist in all circumstances, or not exist in all circumstances.
Anyways, logic dictates that for there to be a beginning, there has to be an end. The universe can't be infinite because the universe had to begin somewhere (big bang, big crunch). A theory of infinite universes exist when you put the big bang and big crunch theories together to get an oscillatory universe. Since technically all matter is drawn back to a single point to undergo a big bang.
While logic as we understand it does dictate that there is an end after a beginning, who's to say there is a real end when dealing with oscillating universes? The concept (Big Bounce) is just a cycle of universe birth (Big Bang), death (Big Crunch), and rebirth (Big Bang). The oscillating universe theory is just one of many, it hinges on what astronomical concepts you adhere to.
All matter being drawn back to a singe point is also one of many concepts. There exist others, such as heat death, that states that the universe will reach a point of maximum entropy where everything is evenly distributed, which would result in no life but the continuance of the universe itself. All of this is hypothetical, its impossible for us at this point to truly know what is happening.
Getting back to the tenth dimension, it could turn out to be the last as could be the eleventh, or the twelfth. String Theory allows for extra dimensions. Just because everything we know is contained in ten dimensions doesn't mean that that is all there is.
When dealing with theoretical physics, certainties are rare and theories and concepts get changed all the time.
That's because "Theoretical physics" is not science. It might one day contribute to science, but currently, it's more ideas than anything, since most of it is really provable or even testable. But it all sounds very cool and neat, and it generally sounds like it would make sense. But that doesn't make it true.
Plus it makes the writers for Star Trek and the like sound more professional when their space ships turn on their "Temporal Alternate Multiverse POrtal activationN"s.
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Klorofolun wrote...
Dante1214 wrote...
thekorolev wrote...
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
thekorolev wrote...
According to what? What Law states that there is an end. The concept of infinity is that there is no end, it just continues on forever. Sorry if I sounded derogatory, I was just trying to provide a counter-thought.First you have to remember that infinity is a concept. Also, infinity cannot either exist in all circumstances, or not exist in all circumstances.
Anyways, logic dictates that for there to be a beginning, there has to be an end. The universe can't be infinite because the universe had to begin somewhere (big bang, big crunch). A theory of infinite universes exist when you put the big bang and big crunch theories together to get an oscillatory universe. Since technically all matter is drawn back to a single point to undergo a big bang.
While logic as we understand it does dictate that there is an end after a beginning, who's to say there is a real end when dealing with oscillating universes? The concept (Big Bounce) is just a cycle of universe birth (Big Bang), death (Big Crunch), and rebirth (Big Bang). The oscillating universe theory is just one of many, it hinges on what astronomical concepts you adhere to.
All matter being drawn back to a singe point is also one of many concepts. There exist others, such as heat death, that states that the universe will reach a point of maximum entropy where everything is evenly distributed, which would result in no life but the continuance of the universe itself. All of this is hypothetical, its impossible for us at this point to truly know what is happening.
Getting back to the tenth dimension, it could turn out to be the last as could be the eleventh, or the twelfth. String Theory allows for extra dimensions. Just because everything we know is contained in ten dimensions doesn't mean that that is all there is.
When dealing with theoretical physics, certainties are rare and theories and concepts get changed all the time.
That's because "Theoretical physics" is not science. It might one day contribute to science, but currently, it's more ideas than anything, since most of it is really provable or even testable. But it all sounds very cool and neat, and it generally sounds like it would make sense. But that doesn't make it true.
Plus it makes the writers for Star Trek and the like sound more professional when their space ships turn on their "Temporal Alternate Multiverse POrtal activationN"s.
With their warp physics and tachyon rays...
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Dante1214 wrote...
Klorofolun wrote...
Dante1214 wrote...
thekorolev wrote...
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
thekorolev wrote...
According to what? What Law states that there is an end. The concept of infinity is that there is no end, it just continues on forever. Sorry if I sounded derogatory, I was just trying to provide a counter-thought.First you have to remember that infinity is a concept. Also, infinity cannot either exist in all circumstances, or not exist in all circumstances.
Anyways, logic dictates that for there to be a beginning, there has to be an end. The universe can't be infinite because the universe had to begin somewhere (big bang, big crunch). A theory of infinite universes exist when you put the big bang and big crunch theories together to get an oscillatory universe. Since technically all matter is drawn back to a single point to undergo a big bang.
While logic as we understand it does dictate that there is an end after a beginning, who's to say there is a real end when dealing with oscillating universes? The concept (Big Bounce) is just a cycle of universe birth (Big Bang), death (Big Crunch), and rebirth (Big Bang). The oscillating universe theory is just one of many, it hinges on what astronomical concepts you adhere to.
All matter being drawn back to a singe point is also one of many concepts. There exist others, such as heat death, that states that the universe will reach a point of maximum entropy where everything is evenly distributed, which would result in no life but the continuance of the universe itself. All of this is hypothetical, its impossible for us at this point to truly know what is happening.
Getting back to the tenth dimension, it could turn out to be the last as could be the eleventh, or the twelfth. String Theory allows for extra dimensions. Just because everything we know is contained in ten dimensions doesn't mean that that is all there is.
When dealing with theoretical physics, certainties are rare and theories and concepts get changed all the time.
That's because "Theoretical physics" is not science. It might one day contribute to science, but currently, it's more ideas than anything, since most of it is really provable or even testable. But it all sounds very cool and neat, and it generally sounds like it would make sense. But that doesn't make it true.
Plus it makes the writers for Star Trek and the like sound more professional when their space ships turn on their "Temporal Alternate Multiverse POrtal activationN"s.
With their warp physics and tachyon rays...
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Ugh, I think that I lost some brain cells watching that. Do people have nothing productive to do with their time?
Key word "Imagine"
Key word "Imagine"
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wow that made me feel smater my 1 brain cell has a friend now YAY. but in other news that really makes you think huh i mean if all dimensions are a line but the 10th is a point how can that be unless the other point is something we cannot even immagine. that is scary.and more dimensions after wards HA that would be fun if we had condensed all to 1 point then tried to go further? what would we find? god?or nothing?possiby create another big bang?i guess we may never know.
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Why does there have to be an end for there to be a beginning - you speak of there been a 'big crunch' but the only way for that to happen is for space to stop expanding and for the force of gravity to overwhelm the current accleration of the universe (outwards).
This is, assuming that the big bang is what caused everything to exist.
String theory... is worthless. Not even worth the time it'd take me to argue against it. It isn't even a theory.
The problem with this video, is that it applies the ideas of a 2 and 3 dimension world and tries to apply them to further dimensions.
And you can't do that.
Furthermore, why does everyone try to think of dimensions as folds in space and time?
I ask just one question,
"How can a human (living) be made up of non-living particles?"
And the answer to that is where people need to look for dimensions.
This is, assuming that the big bang is what caused everything to exist.
String theory... is worthless. Not even worth the time it'd take me to argue against it. It isn't even a theory.
The problem with this video, is that it applies the ideas of a 2 and 3 dimension world and tries to apply them to further dimensions.
And you can't do that.
Furthermore, why does everyone try to think of dimensions as folds in space and time?
I ask just one question,
"How can a human (living) be made up of non-living particles?"
And the answer to that is where people need to look for dimensions.
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arokan wrote...
String theory... is worthless. Not even worth the time it'd take me to argue against it. It isn't even a theory.
I don't think I can agree with that.
String theory is a "theory" because it aims to explain observed phenomenon. Please don't quote me on this one but if I remember correctly, string theory was formulated because the Standard Model does not take gravity into account in its formulation. The concept of "Gravitons" arise naturally through string theory.
Now the question of whether it is a valid "physically" is a different question. After all scientific theories cannot be proved but merely supported via experimental evidence. Since at this point in time there are no means of verifying string theory experimentally. Hence at the moment it is a theory that centres upon mathematics rather than physics.
But hey people used to think Quantum Theory is a whole lot of cr*p but still used it.
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Okay, I ge the thing till the 6th dimension, then my brain starts hurting and I feel this strange, uncontrollable urge to watch hentai. But that may just be me.
