Barak Obama

Ok. Huge news (and I don't believe there's a post yet) that claims he isn't a US Citizen. Holy fuck... we got an illegal immigrant as a President.



This is believed to be forge because there's no damn seal on it.

So umm... truth or fiction?

idk. but i do think that ppl are trying to impeach/push him outta office with all these 'scandals' going around nowadays. :\

I somehow doubt that you could get all the way into the highest elected office in this country without anyone already digging anything like this up to be questioned.
Given how many people are talking about his assassination, I do not think that character assassination is out of the question.
Or, it's true, which just means the Republican party is seriously slacking off.
Someone told me a while ago that he denounced his United States citizenship when he left the country back in the day, and that should have disqualified him in the area of being born an American citizen and whatnot.

Personally, I don't really care.

I don't think it's true. Really anything they bring up now is probably just crap. With all the resources the government has I'm sure they would have found out any dirty laundry before the election. I just hope some freak thing doesn't happen and McCain goes in, I hate that guy.

McCain can't become the president. If Obama is impeached, killed, dies, etc then Biden would take his place. The list goes like this

Vice President and President of the Senate
Speaker of the House of Representatives
President pro tempore of the Senate
Secretary of State
Secretary of the Treasury
Secretary of Defense
Attorney General
Secretary of the Interior
Secretary of Agriculture
Secretary of Commerce
Secretary of Labor
Secretary of Health and Human Services
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
Secretary of Transportation
Secretary of Energy
Secretary of Education
Secretary of Veterans Affairs
Secretary of Homeland Security

Thanks to The Presidential Succession Act of 1947

Wouldn't that suck if they were all in the same building and it blew up

It does seem that he has to be cleaner than all presidents before him, or at least sneakier.
Any opportunity to take him down in any way, someone will take.
I really don't know why some people hate him so much. I didn't think racism was powerful enough in most people.

OMG, don't say that!! haha

Tnx for the list btw!

I doubt they'd all meet in the same place at the same time, especially with enough warning for a bomb to be placed.

I believe there are protocols about this so that they don't run into the problem of, "whos in charge, lolwut?" unless there isn't a country left to govern anyway.

For a lot of people it's not racism to hate the guy. Take me for example, I hate Obama with a fiery passion that is only rivaled by all the stars in the universe combined. I couldn't give two shits about his race. I hate the man because of his policies, his political background (came from the most corrupt cities in the country), his dealings with Rev. Wright & Bill Ayers,etc ,etc. I could write a book on all the reasons I hate Obama but, race isn't one of them.

Though racism is far from gone. Blacks, Whites, Hispanics are all just as racist as the other. Though it's ingrained into our minds that only whites are racist.

As Christopher Tidus once said

Regarding the birth certificate, fringe groups have been pushing this angle for a while. I believe at one point independent experts were called in to examine the document, and said they thought it most probably wasn't forged, but they weren't 100% certain, which of course emboldened the conspiracy theorists.

More recently, an appellate court ruled against those bringing suit, and the Supreme Court threw the case out. Ultimately, it's just a last ditch attempt by some combination of Obama's more fanatic political foes and general conspiracy theorists to try to keep him out of office(the one guy involved also had suit against McCain for something). It's not going to work, and there's really no solid evidence that it's even true, unless you believe, as one of the guys heading up the suit does, that the entire nation of Kenya is involved in a complex cover up.

A lot of fact shading and such nonsense is going on as well. For example, one of the people involved spoke with Obama's grandmother concerning the matter and claims she admitted he was not born in the U.S., but the translator through whom he spoke said she assure him multiple times that Obama was born in the U.S. Of course, his grandmother was also killed to keep the cover up.

Take a look at this("After losing at the Supreme Court, Obama conspiracy theorists meet the press."): http://www.slate.com/id/2206344/

Don't you just love that a guy can win an election, and a month later, people are still trying to keep him from going into office?

America - Where People Just Don't Know When to Fucking Stop

But this is nothing new. I remember people bringing up Bush's grades in college after he was already in the president's chair, as if it would change anything. And I'm sure it's happened with all the other presidents, people talking shit about them even after the point of no return, saying things that would maybe make people not vote for the guy, despite the voting being over and done with.

I guess that could be human nature though, and not just something that happens in America.

human nature to hate people who have won something?
You're probably right.
I think the human race is natural a race of haters.

That, and hating someone even if hating them isn't going to change anything, as well as trying to undermine their success. Saying "Obama shouldn't have won" now isn't worth saying. He already won and nothing can change that. It's a waste of breath.

But saying, "I don't like Obama," that's alright. That may be a bit of haterism, but everybody hates a little. We just have to not act like babies about it. And the people trying to say that Obama is an illegal immigrant, they're being babies. Hatin babies who don't know when to quit.

True. People hated on Bush all the time.

okay time for a rant, just gotta get some things of my chest here.

1. voted for McCain, i just don't want 'change' especially when its a very vague 'change' i've usually been for keeping the status quo, yes the economy and everything else is in a mess, but most ppl want things to be better just not in the future, they want it now, and yes i am aware none of the two candidates can do the 'now'
2. i am upset at the lack of attention the "liberal media" put on Obama's past connections with certain individuals (thats all i'll say, lets not start a big fight)
3. Had the public been aware of his 'full name' would they have voted for him? If you were an average independent unswayed voter would you vote for "Barack Hussein Obama" (yes thats his real name and what he wants to be sworn in under that name)
4. with that said, he did win the election, i may not have voted for him, but i love my country, if i really hated Obama so much i could've just moved to Canada right? so i look forward to what he'll do for the USA and hope for the best

sry for the long rant

The public was awake of his full name. It was repeatedly brought up to try to convince people that he was a terrorist, which really doesn't make any sense.

It's not like every person named Adolf in the history of the world has been evil.