Businesses and Descrimination

Just thought of this because of the Indiana Laws that will allow discrimination based on "sincerely held religious beliefs".

How much do you think the government has a right to interfere with businesses in regards to discriminatory practices? Do you think businesses should have a right to discriminate on the basis of race/religion? I don't think anyone here would actually argue yes but I do want to open a discussion on the role of government in businesses and what rights a business has in regards to whom and why they refuse services.

I'm not American but... didn't this thing pop up in Arizona or some other US State as well some time ago?

Well in America there are laws that say you cannot hire or fire someone based off gender, race, or religion. Affirmative Action ensures that there is a equal opportunity when hiring, firing, promotion, or any other factors at a job. If a business is determined to violated this then usually they get sued and lose a good chuck of money.

I haven't really heard much about something like that outside of sports now.

Government has no right to interfere in business practices what so ever weather discriminatory or whatever. Business has the right to deny service or employment to anybody for any reason because it is their property.

That doesn't cover serving. You can deny service to anyone unless it governmental and emergency wise everywhere in the us. I still seen the 'no niggers' signs in the deep country of Arkansas and Missouri as of 2001 ( nearly two weeks before September 11th).

I still seen the 'we have the right to deny service to everyone' signs here in cali. As long as they don't say niggers, fags, wetbacks, honkies, or popists I think it still legal. Don't get me wrong. I think denying to serve anyone unless they're being awfully rude or not following the simple things like shirt or shoes or being filthy dirty isn't smart if you like money and keeping the light on. Still your right to.

Actually, it does cover serving people, look up the act and know that Every state has since built upon it. The right to deny service to anyone applies to those they do not judge on race, religion, ethnic background, sex, genetics, disability, and more depending on the state, sometimes it doesn't apply to very small businesses. However if you have someone who is a minor, you can discriminate against them, or if they stink, or are nude, or many other reasons, just not the ones that are illegal.

here is all that from a Q&A in a legal website

Do Restaurants Have the Unrestricted Right to Refuse Service?

No. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 explicitly prohibits restaurants from refusing service to patrons on the basis of race, color, religion, or national origin. In addition, most courts don’t allow restaurants to refuse service to patrons based on extremely arbitrary conditions. For example, a person likely can’t be refused service due to having a lazy eye.
But Aren’t Restaurants Considered Private Property?

Yes, however they are also considered places of public accommodation. In other words, the primary purpose of a restaurant is to sell food to the general public, which necessarily requires susceptibility to equal protection laws. Therefore, a restaurant’s existence as private property does not excuse an unjustified refusal of service. This can be contrasted to a nightclub, which usually caters itself to a specific group of clientele based on age and social status.
So Are "Right to Refuse Service to Anyone" Signs in Restaurants Legal?

Yes, however they still do not give a restaurant the power to refuse service on the basis of race, color, religion, or national origin. These signs also do not preclude a court from finding other arbitrary refusals of service to be discriminatory. Simply put, restaurants that carry a "Right to Refuse Service" sign are subject to the same laws as restaurants without one.
What Conditions Allow a Restaurant to Refuse Service?

There a number of legitimate reasons for a restaurant to refuse service, some of which include:

Patrons who are unreasonably rowdy or causing trouble
Patrons that may overfill capacity if let in
Patrons who come in just before closing time or when the kitchen is closed
Patrons accompanied by large groups of non-customers looking to sit in
Patrons lacking adequate hygiene (e.g. excess dirt, extreme body odor, etc.)

In most cases, refusal of service is warranted where a customer’s presence in the restaurant detracts from the safety, welfare, and well-being of other patrons and the restaurant itself.
- See more at: http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/restaurants-right-to-refuse-service.html#sthash.qipIMD5q.dpuf

I stand corrected. I assume it was as long as it wasn't stated. I was wrong.

Interestingly enough you can state whatever you like, but you cannot deny service. You can state, I hate blacks gays and the Dutch, you can even say it with a sign on the door, you can even post, Orders taken in English only, no Dutch spoken orders. But as long as you still take the order, you will be fine. You see you can express yourself, but can't deny service. Personally I would advice that you don't, offense can have backlash. So if you put a sign up that states, We will serve anyone, but keep in mind that our religious views are against gay weddings if you request us to cater them. You are probably fine barring some local ordinance. You still have to cater to a gay wedding if they ask though, no protection.

Just so people misreading this don't get offended. I do not hate gay weddings, blacks, black gays, or even the Dutch. I get to know someone before bothering to hate them, saves energy.