Ethil wrote...
PersonDude wrote...
Ethil wrote...
Yea, so why not just make it easier to kill people, that sounds like a really good idea aswell.
And hey, I dunno, but it kinda feels like there is a connection between "more weapons available for anyone that wants them than any other nation in the world" and "more murders than any other nation in the world", but maybe that's just me thinking to deeply.
I mean, it's not even like you have the largest population in the world, or worst conditions to live.
We aren't on the top. Not even the top ten. Check your charts.
Dude, that is what I just said. You're begging for another "stupid"?
I believe he meant we're not in the top ten nations with most murders per capita. Which the United States isn't. United States is #24.
Ethil wrote...
PersonDude wrote...
Ethil wrote...
Answer me; why do you kill each other, and why do you make it easier to do so?
I'm not too big on philosophy so I don't know why humans kill each other. But the right to bear arms is a basic human right in my opinion. Besides if we didn't do this, the only people to have guns would be the ones that really wanted to kill, while the innocent are left out without a way to defend.
Yea well, for some reason it works out pretty well in the countries without legal weapons, we're not even near your murder rate. There is a much lower need to defend if there is less you have to defend against. It is also questionable if using a weapon meant for killing is suitable for defense.
Then again, your country is pretty doomed; you screwed up long ago by letting anyone get their hands on weapons, and whatever you do now the murder rate is always gonna go upwards, since it is to late for you to think of lowering the availability of weapons now, there is already to many around.
And if it were up to me, killing is a basic human right as well, I mean, it's a basic human instinct, and who is to take that away from us? It seems to me like you wanna have guns just for the sake of having them when you say that.
Please, list these countries without legal weapons, because I assure you, some in those countries have
illegal weapons. Considering how you consider our country seems to just hand out guns to everyone including children, I'll assure you now that this
isn't true. The regulation is indeed flawed, but we do try to limit the assessibility of the dangerous weapons.
Now, you asked whether a weapon designed for killing is suitable for defense, I say yes. A strong offense is a good defense. If the attacker is dead, you don't need to worry. Now, is this a ethical method of defense? Hardly. Is there a better method of defense? Yup, live secluded from every single human being.
The next statement I'm attacking is your claim of how the country is doomed by making guns so available. I get the feeling that you think guns are only obtainable legally. Get this, criminals commit crimes. Wouldn't it be possible for them to... oh, I don't know... get their guns through illegal means? If the good citizens don't protect their homes with deterrance, then people with illegal guns would walk the streets with only the police to "control" things. Guess what, we have a shortage of police officers that would risk their lives for others but we have a near limitless supply of people that would arm themselves for an advantage over others.
"Killing people is a basic right." According to Locke, it is. He calls it the right of violence which we set aside for controlled government. If government would not work for the people, the people shall enact their right to violence. If it seems to you that people only use this statement as a reason to hold a weapon, you're fre to think what you like. However, since you're not in our position, you're not subjected to the constant fear that the media keeps enforcing on the general people, so we're free it ignore your ignorant (not an insult, it simply means a current lack of understanding) comments.
Ethil wrote...
PersonDude wrote...
Ethil wrote...
I mean, it seems like common sense that the first thing you do when you want to prevent crimes is to limit the availability of getting tools of murder. Ofc you can't do it entirely, but not selling bullets at fucking wall mart might be a good start.
There are millions of materials sold in your local store that can be used as a murder weapon. Want to limit those too?
There is a difference between things that can be used for killing and things that are meant for killing. Which is again obvious if you look at how many more people are killed in your nation than anywhere else.
How about knives? Butcher knives are meant for killing, yet those are easily bought without any regulations. Cyanide is used to kill pests, also easily available. The question here is purpose and to the resourceful, everything has purposes outside of their intended use. Also, check out how easy it is to make homemade bombs. You can even google "homemade bombs" and you'll get decent results. You may also notice how the September 11 incident caused a major increase in homicide deaths which wasn't done by guns, wasn't done by citizens of this nation, and
could (not would or should) have been prevented if there was some security officer with a gun onboard.
And once again, you seem to have a set agenda as to how United States has the largest homicide per capita. Hell, even Poland has a larger rate than we do.
Annnnnnnnyway. Onto the main topic. I agree with the United States Supreme Court decisions. The police
aren't here to protect the citizens. Their oaths are to the government and to enforce the law. They are not obligated to any other duties but to perhaps prevent possible crime from happening
in front of them. Am I happy about this fact? Nope, but I don't believe that we should burden the police to protect every single citizen in the country. We live in an economic world where we have to look at the costs of certain securities. We simply cannot afford to have a police officer stationed in every single household to protect the people from crime. Crime happens, but really rarely.
Over reliance on law enforcement officers is foolhardy. In those cases of domestic abuse, I find it strange that those women still stay with their husbands/boyfriends. In such sitations, shouldn't people turn to their connections for help such as friends and family? However, since I'm ignorant of their situation, I'll refrain from making anymore judgements.