Censorship
Is Censorship Necessary or UnNecessary?
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Is censorship really needed? Who are we to decide what "Is" or "Is not" morally right? I am not a gung ho religious person so I don't believe everything in the Bible, especially because some books in it were censored by the Catholic Church long ago and cannot be included in the mainstream Bible now because of it. Despite my little tiff with religious views on what we should do, i believe that everybody is responsible for themselves, and should take responsibility for what they do or if something they do leads to something bad. If that were possible we wouldn't need to provide censorship to protect people. I don't know i just felt like getting this off my chest. I might post later with a better argument, but i believe that censorship in any form is wrong. (Especially when it comes to hentai lol)
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I refuse to decipher that giant wall of text D: Calm down and organize your thoughts.
Censorship on what? Images? Speech? Just censorship in general?
Censorship where? TV? What we teach in school? Just censorship in general?
I would post something thoughtful and long, but I'm short on time right now >_>"
Rest assured, it was something along the lines of "Censorship hinders our freedom." Then I go on explaining how it differs from nation to nation. Then I do that usual separate paragraph and contradict myself saying something along the lines of "Censorship maintains the young generation's innocence."
Censorship on what? Images? Speech? Just censorship in general?
Censorship where? TV? What we teach in school? Just censorship in general?
I would post something thoughtful and long, but I'm short on time right now >_>"
Rest assured, it was something along the lines of "Censorship hinders our freedom." Then I go on explaining how it differs from nation to nation. Then I do that usual separate paragraph and contradict myself saying something along the lines of "Censorship maintains the young generation's innocence."
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Yeah your right Azumax... from now on i will try to collect my thoughts a bit more. I will rework my post and rewrite my views at at later date when i can think straight, sorry.
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All power in the world is corrupt. Someone put me in charge of selling raffle tickets to my schoolmates. I made 39 dollars..
Good people corrupt easily under the influence of greed
@Azumax, "Censorship maintains the younger generations innocense"
The younger generations will never be innocent in todays world. Then also censorship drills the fact that this is something you don't do in the childrens' heads. When they reach adolescence and teenage stages of their lives, they feel rebelious. They understand that the all powerful adults are not so powerful or insightful as they though. They realize that they can get away with things and experiment with those things that they were never allowed to do. Smoking, drugs, sex, beer, satanic orgies.. taking my damn car in the middle of the night and driving it into a fucking TOMATOE STAND.
[Ramble Warning..]
But really, nothing should be censored because it is a parents responsibility. These censors have made todays' parents lazy as an immigrant (from U.S. to Canada for free healthcare and 14% tax on everything..). They feel they should put the care of their children in the hands of faceless corporations or whatever the hell ESRB is.. I would say faceless boards, but that is too obvious, because boards have no faces..
What I am getting at and is takin forever to say. Is the fact that parents should be controlling what their children see and stop being so damn naive to think that Billy doesn't have a copy of "Sally Getting Butt-Fucked by Gerald"
[End Ramble]
the rambling did not make a bit of sense, I will translate my thoughts later..
Good people corrupt easily under the influence of greed
@Azumax, "Censorship maintains the younger generations innocense"
The younger generations will never be innocent in todays world. Then also censorship drills the fact that this is something you don't do in the childrens' heads. When they reach adolescence and teenage stages of their lives, they feel rebelious. They understand that the all powerful adults are not so powerful or insightful as they though. They realize that they can get away with things and experiment with those things that they were never allowed to do. Smoking, drugs, sex, beer, satanic orgies.. taking my damn car in the middle of the night and driving it into a fucking TOMATOE STAND.
[Ramble Warning..]
But really, nothing should be censored because it is a parents responsibility. These censors have made todays' parents lazy as an immigrant (from U.S. to Canada for free healthcare and 14% tax on everything..). They feel they should put the care of their children in the hands of faceless corporations or whatever the hell ESRB is.. I would say faceless boards, but that is too obvious, because boards have no faces..
What I am getting at and is takin forever to say. Is the fact that parents should be controlling what their children see and stop being so damn naive to think that Billy doesn't have a copy of "Sally Getting Butt-Fucked by Gerald"
[End Ramble]
the rambling did not make a bit of sense, I will translate my thoughts later..
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(Agree with sds111)
Besides that, I hate the whole concept of "politically correct" I find that its just a jumble of bullshit put together to try and make one person right and others wrong... Im chinese and I could care less whatever people call me
Besides that, I hate the whole concept of "politically correct" I find that its just a jumble of bullshit put together to try and make one person right and others wrong... Im chinese and I could care less whatever people call me
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sds111 i'm on board with you...pc is just a bunch of ppl who cant take name calling or whatever is their problem.
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Controversial things.. I got -1 rep : D.
Oh well I am an asshole, apparently someone here is a parent that relies on censorship because he/she is not taking an active role in his/her childs life.
Oh well I am an asshole, apparently someone here is a parent that relies on censorship because he/she is not taking an active role in his/her childs life.
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sds111 wrote...
Controversial things.. I got -1 rep : D.Oh well I am an asshole, apparently someone here is a parent that relies on censorship because he/she is not taking an active role in his/her childs life.
For the record, that wasn't me >>"
*Adds +1 Rep* to balance it out since I haven't really seen you do anything wrong @_@
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What kind of censorship?
I always thought that the news media in my country needs a lot of censorship because people here can't feel any more hopeless with how the government runs, but if it's about the little mosaics, black lines/boxes and white-outs that plague the hentai world...
You're right, what's the point of censoring hentai?
I always thought that the news media in my country needs a lot of censorship because people here can't feel any more hopeless with how the government runs, but if it's about the little mosaics, black lines/boxes and white-outs that plague the hentai world...
You're right, what's the point of censoring hentai?
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censor ship is not needed intodays world. it's just a way of slacking off. i fully agree with sds , but unfortuantly we can not get rid of the worlds
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sorry bit excessive on the dots lol
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sorry bit excessive on the dots lol
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Yeah i know, censorship is bad, yadda yadda yadda, but the thing is its a necessity, as much as we all hate it, theres just some things that should be censored to the youth, i mean who here thinks a 6 year old should see some one after they get their skull sliced open by a helicopter propeller? Of course too much censorship is also just as bad as not enough censorship, metaphorically, there is a silver line which censorship should be on, not one step forward or back of that line. Censorship is a needed evil. Theres some things young ones should not see. You've got to think about both sides.
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well, i'd say im for no censorship, mainly because i believe in the rights of anybody to see wat everything is, pretty much,
if they're giving, and ur wanting, whose right is it for u either of them to say no
now, before i become a one-sided buyist person, i'd like to point out, if the person who takes offence to something not censored, shouldnt have seen or watched it in the first place, especially those people who watch a movie or television show and scream about how they did this or said that, even though the show warned about explicit langauges....
Now in terms of the morality of human being, and the degeneration of a person exposed to the uncensorship, that can be slightly justified, I totally disapprove of children swearing and acting ganztar, but i cant stop them, its up to their parents,
so in truth, individually this is a topic that cant have a solution, but i think there is a final solution
if they're giving, and ur wanting, whose right is it for u either of them to say no
now, before i become a one-sided buyist person, i'd like to point out, if the person who takes offence to something not censored, shouldnt have seen or watched it in the first place, especially those people who watch a movie or television show and scream about how they did this or said that, even though the show warned about explicit langauges....
Now in terms of the morality of human being, and the degeneration of a person exposed to the uncensorship, that can be slightly justified, I totally disapprove of children swearing and acting ganztar, but i cant stop them, its up to their parents,
so in truth, individually this is a topic that cant have a solution, but i think there is a final solution
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censorship is a necessity
if a fence on the edge of a cliff is to keep people from falling off, then censorship is to keep people from potentially damaging their minds
it's for your own good
remember, laws or restraints weren't made to restrict your happiness, it's made to protect it
but for the love of gawd why the f*** do they have to go this far with censorship?! i mean, those annoying black or white lines/boxes and those mosaics are pointless considering heavy implications of sex in hentai...
and what's up with freedom of speech? why do those media people have to go so far as to promote their own programs with "sensational" material without considering the possible damages that they show to the masses?
people can't help but feel hopeless and depressed when they watch the news...
it's not good for the society... and that's where censorship really counts
gck~ i'd just ranted
if a fence on the edge of a cliff is to keep people from falling off, then censorship is to keep people from potentially damaging their minds
it's for your own good
remember, laws or restraints weren't made to restrict your happiness, it's made to protect it
but for the love of gawd why the f*** do they have to go this far with censorship?! i mean, those annoying black or white lines/boxes and those mosaics are pointless considering heavy implications of sex in hentai...
and what's up with freedom of speech? why do those media people have to go so far as to promote their own programs with "sensational" material without considering the possible damages that they show to the masses?
people can't help but feel hopeless and depressed when they watch the news...
it's not good for the society... and that's where censorship really counts
gck~ i'd just ranted
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If a child saw a man's head chopped off by a helicopter blade by accident, would just shield their eyes? They had already seen the ordeal you panic and just shield their eyes. That lets them know that they should not have seen that, and crave to see more of the like. It is an instinct-like trait in all adolescense, pre-teen, teenagers, and young adults.
This shows how censorship has given parents no choice in the matter and stripped them of these learning experiences. When you can just tell your child everything he or she needs to know tell them whats black, and what is white. But parents today have been robbed of this trait by basic censorship and all types of censorship, leaving them speachless when their children grow up having a rebellious stigma about them. They do not know what to say, how to stop their child from making bad choices. Nor does the child know how to react to the parents sudden activeness in what he or she can and cannot do. So they just ignore it all, and detach themselves from their parents.
But then again, censorship is there for parents who would make no effort at all at establishing these lines of communication if there was no censors.
This shows how censorship has given parents no choice in the matter and stripped them of these learning experiences. When you can just tell your child everything he or she needs to know tell them whats black, and what is white. But parents today have been robbed of this trait by basic censorship and all types of censorship, leaving them speachless when their children grow up having a rebellious stigma about them. They do not know what to say, how to stop their child from making bad choices. Nor does the child know how to react to the parents sudden activeness in what he or she can and cannot do. So they just ignore it all, and detach themselves from their parents.
But then again, censorship is there for parents who would make no effort at all at establishing these lines of communication if there was no censors.
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I think a certain amount of censorship is definitely necessary. Mostly because children are impressionable and should be introduced to certain concepts/imagery at a pace that won't scar them for life.
Also, let's face it, some people are just dumbasses and like to copy what they see. Now if some idiot eats a light bulb and bleeds to death because he saw it on television, fine, one less dumbass in the world. However, if he decides to re-enact a gunfight scene, that could endanger other people as well as himself.
I guess I think censorship is necessary in order to protect the young and to keep dumbasses from hurting us.
Also, let's face it, some people are just dumbasses and like to copy what they see. Now if some idiot eats a light bulb and bleeds to death because he saw it on television, fine, one less dumbass in the world. However, if he decides to re-enact a gunfight scene, that could endanger other people as well as himself.
I guess I think censorship is necessary in order to protect the young and to keep dumbasses from hurting us.
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Censorship is necessary, but to a limit. You cant just release any form of media under the label of art and expect it to pass by without any editing. Believing that works of "art" deserve a pass that says it will not be censored is beyond stupid and is a reason as to why censorship is needed.
In my opinion games like grand theft auto and other overly violent forms of expression in media do not merit censorship. If the rating system for that form of media deems it to have mature content then by all means let them rate it as so, but stores, galleries, theaters shouldn't inhibit the sale and or viewing of said material. On the note of the NC-17 and AO ratings my opinion is that do not let them have a overly public existence, people purchasing said material should be required to show id, and a law should be put into effect that makes purchasing said materials for minors illegal as with cigarettes and alcohol. And purchasing/viewing of M and R rated media needs to be more closely watched, and is a parents responsibility to deem their child mature enough to handle such. Recently I viewed a couple bringing their tween/teen child out of Superbad a vulgar yet funny movie intended for adults, the child speaking very obscenely and without respect, the two parents seemed in shock that their child would do such, this is a prime example of parental fault in these kinds of issues.
Now on to bigger issues, Books. I do not think books should be censored. This is because the censoring of such a media can make us ignorant to ways of thinking and to issues that need to be brought into life. If a person wants to read the book Mein Kampf, by all means let them. But this should not mean after they buy, check out, and/or read this book should they be monitored. Sure he was an evil man but the book as a great piece of literature. Just because a book deals with mature content doesn't mean it should be banned or censored. Furthermore in today's society banning or censoring books would be of little consequence due to the world in generals lack of interest when it comes to reading. And even when most of us do read it isnt titles that are deemed censor worthy it is titles like Harry Potter and such other works of child's fiction.
All in all it is up to a parent or gaurdian to decide wether or not thier child is mature enough to handle the material present in the form of media they wish to view. So please all gaurdians take an active role in your childs life and make sure they are mature enough to handle to games or movies you buy for them
In my opinion games like grand theft auto and other overly violent forms of expression in media do not merit censorship. If the rating system for that form of media deems it to have mature content then by all means let them rate it as so, but stores, galleries, theaters shouldn't inhibit the sale and or viewing of said material. On the note of the NC-17 and AO ratings my opinion is that do not let them have a overly public existence, people purchasing said material should be required to show id, and a law should be put into effect that makes purchasing said materials for minors illegal as with cigarettes and alcohol. And purchasing/viewing of M and R rated media needs to be more closely watched, and is a parents responsibility to deem their child mature enough to handle such. Recently I viewed a couple bringing their tween/teen child out of Superbad a vulgar yet funny movie intended for adults, the child speaking very obscenely and without respect, the two parents seemed in shock that their child would do such, this is a prime example of parental fault in these kinds of issues.
Now on to bigger issues, Books. I do not think books should be censored. This is because the censoring of such a media can make us ignorant to ways of thinking and to issues that need to be brought into life. If a person wants to read the book Mein Kampf, by all means let them. But this should not mean after they buy, check out, and/or read this book should they be monitored. Sure he was an evil man but the book as a great piece of literature. Just because a book deals with mature content doesn't mean it should be banned or censored. Furthermore in today's society banning or censoring books would be of little consequence due to the world in generals lack of interest when it comes to reading. And even when most of us do read it isnt titles that are deemed censor worthy it is titles like Harry Potter and such other works of child's fiction.
All in all it is up to a parent or gaurdian to decide wether or not thier child is mature enough to handle the material present in the form of media they wish to view. So please all gaurdians take an active role in your childs life and make sure they are mature enough to handle to games or movies you buy for them
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When I made this thread a long time ago I didn't know how many rants it would cause. It's wonderful! Nothing is better than people expressing there opinion in a place where it can be critiqued and rated by others. Only through that can people form a bigger and more complete analysis of a situation.
But, Alas I to have just ranted, whats worse is...It was off topic.
At any rate my view on censorship is this. If it is by means of saving lives like putting up signs to keep people from hurting themselves on accident or such by all means censor it. If it is something that could possibly offend a younger child than it is the duty of the parent to make sure they don't see it and teach them why.
As far as art is concerned, if you are putting your time and heart into what you truly love than no matter what type of art it is considered to be it should not be censored, once again people offended by it should just try to avoid it, but if this artist is going around showing it off saying everyone should see this(or any other kind of thing i am not wording this right i know it) Than measures should be taken to control the situation, but not delete it entirely.
Now for books. Censoring books is wrong people. If you are taking the time to read a book you don't approve of just to complain about it than you are just a problem. Read what you want that choice or yours.
Well my rant is done...hope you all continue with your opinions!
But, Alas I to have just ranted, whats worse is...It was off topic.
At any rate my view on censorship is this. If it is by means of saving lives like putting up signs to keep people from hurting themselves on accident or such by all means censor it. If it is something that could possibly offend a younger child than it is the duty of the parent to make sure they don't see it and teach them why.
As far as art is concerned, if you are putting your time and heart into what you truly love than no matter what type of art it is considered to be it should not be censored, once again people offended by it should just try to avoid it, but if this artist is going around showing it off saying everyone should see this(or any other kind of thing i am not wording this right i know it) Than measures should be taken to control the situation, but not delete it entirely.
Now for books. Censoring books is wrong people. If you are taking the time to read a book you don't approve of just to complain about it than you are just a problem. Read what you want that choice or yours.
Well my rant is done...hope you all continue with your opinions!
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I would really like to see some studies on how violent/sexually promiscuous a person is if he saw movies like hostel or porn in his youth.
It would seem like common sense that if a kid sees people having sex hes going to try to do that with a friend, or if he sees a kool guy toting a gun around and shooting people, that a kid might want to see what its like.
Honestly though I would say that falls more on the community the child is in and what kind of parents they have, if the parents are just ignoring the child and not informing him in some way, and community was trying to ignore the subject as well, then I could see a possibility, but I would still question.
In conclusion I'm agreeing that its more the parents, and that ratings should exist with restrictions on ages but it shouldn't be as limited as it is now and parents shouldn't freak out about their kids watching adult material like they do now. Also I have to ask who do you think commits more mass murders, teen pregnancies or even just being a bully at school, and I'd have to say its more homes where kids are getting abused, ignored or some other bad situation.
It would seem like common sense that if a kid sees people having sex hes going to try to do that with a friend, or if he sees a kool guy toting a gun around and shooting people, that a kid might want to see what its like.
Honestly though I would say that falls more on the community the child is in and what kind of parents they have, if the parents are just ignoring the child and not informing him in some way, and community was trying to ignore the subject as well, then I could see a possibility, but I would still question.
In conclusion I'm agreeing that its more the parents, and that ratings should exist with restrictions on ages but it shouldn't be as limited as it is now and parents shouldn't freak out about their kids watching adult material like they do now. Also I have to ask who do you think commits more mass murders, teen pregnancies or even just being a bully at school, and I'd have to say its more homes where kids are getting abused, ignored or some other bad situation.