Environmental influences.
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Hello my fellow Fakku-ers and this time it will be about people getting influenced based on their environment.
We all know that people adapt to the environment they live in, such as jungles, deserts, mountains and even other places. However, I also wish to talk about the psychological influences caused by the environment people live in, not just in places, but also within families and friends.
Let's say we live in a jungle, and people need a calm and friendly environment among their communities and families so they can survive and also mentally support each other ... now let me change the rules .. imagine in a jungle, where nobody within the community is calm and everybody looses their cool and doesn't support each other, then they would be heading into a tribal extinction because of that "slight" change.
Now my biggest question is, does such small change affect a small tribe or community in a big way?
From what I know it is only natural that we support each other in order to survive and move on to become a better civilization.
Here is an example based on psychological influence:
One lives in a city with family and friends, they live a happy life based on that natural instinct to mentally support each other because of survival and continue so on .... but let's say he lives in a bad family and has bad friends, how will he end up? Will he grow to be psychotic and kill people or will he commit suicide based on his life?
That is what I am talking about, that this life can never be a straight road .. there are millions and more influences around the world that can change the course of your life ... whether it's be a fireman giving you that smile with blood on his face or a man who laughs at the sight of blood lust.
At first I believed that people are the only influences but I was wrong, many things can influence you from the littlest rice corn to the universe itself.
However how would you see this?
We all know that people adapt to the environment they live in, such as jungles, deserts, mountains and even other places. However, I also wish to talk about the psychological influences caused by the environment people live in, not just in places, but also within families and friends.
Let's say we live in a jungle, and people need a calm and friendly environment among their communities and families so they can survive and also mentally support each other ... now let me change the rules .. imagine in a jungle, where nobody within the community is calm and everybody looses their cool and doesn't support each other, then they would be heading into a tribal extinction because of that "slight" change.
Now my biggest question is, does such small change affect a small tribe or community in a big way?
From what I know it is only natural that we support each other in order to survive and move on to become a better civilization.
Here is an example based on psychological influence:
One lives in a city with family and friends, they live a happy life based on that natural instinct to mentally support each other because of survival and continue so on .... but let's say he lives in a bad family and has bad friends, how will he end up? Will he grow to be psychotic and kill people or will he commit suicide based on his life?
That is what I am talking about, that this life can never be a straight road .. there are millions and more influences around the world that can change the course of your life ... whether it's be a fireman giving you that smile with blood on his face or a man who laughs at the sight of blood lust.
At first I believed that people are the only influences but I was wrong, many things can influence you from the littlest rice corn to the universe itself.
However how would you see this?
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I think we are the product of our enviroments. Serial killers (for the most part) have shitty childhoods and look at what happen to them. The more support you have the happier and successfull you will probably be. However, it is also possible to not let your enviroment control you. The older you get the more aware you are of your influneces and the less you let them control/affect you. Having your values instilled early also helps, because then you have more control over your influneces based off of what you believe. Small changes do affect a communty but only as much as the community allows (if that makes sense).
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LaowPing wrote...
Serial killers (for the most part) have shitty childhoods If you make such claim i want a link to your reference ?
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lordisgaea3 wrote...
LaowPing wrote...
Serial killers (for the most part) have shitty childhoods If you make such claim i want a link to your reference ?
My reference is every documentary of serial killers I have ever watched. Want a link? Try google.
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LaowPing wrote...
lordisgaea3 wrote...
LaowPing wrote...
Serial killers (for the most part) have shitty childhoods If you make such claim i want a link to your reference ?
My reference is every documentary of serial killers I have ever watched. Want a link? Try google.
You are making the claim , you provide the proof or else your argument is invalid ...
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well , for most of the time it would be true that environment have a great influence on us
But , when you make the environment that you live in as an excuse for your bad behavior then we have to stop here .
Every person has had a bad experiment in his life , the problem isn't how it will effect us , the problem is how we deal about it .
If your dad was a drug dealer who spends most of his time in prisons , Jails and he is never at home , then it is okay to be just like him ??
If you were bullied by a person , and he used to hit you every time after the school , is it okay to grab a gun and shoot him ??
Well , if you let these experiments affect you , then the problem is in you
why ? well a lot of people everyday around the world deal with something much bigger than this , like hunger , war , illness , slavery and a lot more , they will be happy if there problem was bullying for example .
think and look positive , don't make an excuse out of these experiments
you're not the first person who have to deal with these things , and not the last oneÙˆ so hang on , there might be a better future ahead of you .
But , when you make the environment that you live in as an excuse for your bad behavior then we have to stop here .
Every person has had a bad experiment in his life , the problem isn't how it will effect us , the problem is how we deal about it .
If your dad was a drug dealer who spends most of his time in prisons , Jails and he is never at home , then it is okay to be just like him ??
If you were bullied by a person , and he used to hit you every time after the school , is it okay to grab a gun and shoot him ??
Well , if you let these experiments affect you , then the problem is in you
why ? well a lot of people everyday around the world deal with something much bigger than this , like hunger , war , illness , slavery and a lot more , they will be happy if there problem was bullying for example .
think and look positive , don't make an excuse out of these experiments
you're not the first person who have to deal with these things , and not the last oneÙˆ so hang on , there might be a better future ahead of you .
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We have all heard about success stories of people who come from broken families or have had a terrible, unfortunate childhood who later become successful sportsmen, millionaires (through legal means and hard work of course), etc.
The thing is that some of these people found something or someone later in life that gave them the chance to work hard and succeed, and this opportunities are the key factor in their lives.
My point is that although people may be surrounded "bad" people or "bad" environments, just something small (might be a minor event in their life or even a single person) might be able to inspire them to strive to "succeed" (for a lack of a better word) in life, despite the environmental influences.
That is what I personally think, anyway.
The thing is that some of these people found something or someone later in life that gave them the chance to work hard and succeed, and this opportunities are the key factor in their lives.
My point is that although people may be surrounded "bad" people or "bad" environments, just something small (might be a minor event in their life or even a single person) might be able to inspire them to strive to "succeed" (for a lack of a better word) in life, despite the environmental influences.
That is what I personally think, anyway.
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Casanova no1 wrote...
well , for most of the time it would be true that environment have a great influence on us But , when you make the environment that you live in as an excuse for your bad behavior then we have to stop here .
Every person has had a bad experiment in his life , the problem isn't how it will effect us , the problem is how we deal about it .
If your dad was a drug dealer who spends most of his time in prisons , Jails and he is never at home , then it is okay to be just like him ??
If you were bullied by a person , and he used to hit you every time after the school , is it okay to grab a gun and shoot him ??
Well , if you let these experiments affect you , then the problem is in you
why ? well a lot of people everyday around the world deal with something much bigger than this , like hunger , war , illness , slavery and a lot more , they will be happy if there problem was bullying for example .
think and look positive , don't make an excuse out of these experiments
you're not the first person who have to deal with these things , and not the last oneÙˆ so hang on , there might be a better future ahead of you .
I think you're missing the point. I might be wrong, but I think the OP was addressing the fact that the environment we are born into plays a part in our development and changes in that environment have an effect on us.
You're focusing on the OP's example so much that you're losing sight of the premise of what he/she is getting at. Let's say you're born into a happy family and, at some point, someone in your family starts beating the shit out of you. A significant part of the world's population is experiencing war, hunger, disease, slavery, and "a lot more," but you're still getting the shit beaten out of you. The fact of the matter is that the environment that you've become accustomed to has changed and you have to adapt.
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Spoiler:
My fellow Fakku-er, indeed you have spoken wise words about how to "deal" with these things .. but like you said .. some people just are not fortunate enough to deal with their circumstances when growing up in an environment, regardless how warm or cold it is.
However that is not the point, the point is the environment that can psychologically influence a person ... which is coming from people's behavior towards each other.
Like I said, yes people can adapt to their environment such as the mountains and all, but the point is that people need to support each other in order to survive the environment they live in. Sure one can live in a city full of good and bad people, but it matters to how people behave with one another and reaching the person's full potential of surviving and also living a happy life and developing into a decent person.
I sure as hell didn't grow up in a easy life, had also my fair shares of being abused and living a non fulfilling life ... but if I didn't experience that "certain" event then I wouldn't have dealt with all this bullshit .... that made me think a lot about myself and my environment and thus I stopped giving in to these things and started being a guy free from all of the bullshit.
But we are discussing about "how an environment ( including people and subjects) can influence a person" and we wanted to read your opinion but instead you gave us a reply about how to deal with it. ( So Jesus was right about you focusing on my example more than the actual subject we are discussing about )
Oh and I am guy just so anyone wants to know.
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I can definitely say that people can in fact influence the other based on their behavior and the results are based on how they can cope with one another.
Indeed that certain environments such as jungles, deserts, and other places which have to do with surviving are a certain challenge and that people need to mentally support each other that way their maximal potential can be reached for even having a chance to survive.
Psychological influences can definitely change a person's development based on how good or bad it is. But I liked what you said about how the path in life is not a straight one and that there are many influences in life that can change the course of life.
Oh and I know that you are a guy ... you mentioned that before.
Indeed that certain environments such as jungles, deserts, and other places which have to do with surviving are a certain challenge and that people need to mentally support each other that way their maximal potential can be reached for even having a chance to survive.
Psychological influences can definitely change a person's development based on how good or bad it is. But I liked what you said about how the path in life is not a straight one and that there are many influences in life that can change the course of life.
Oh and I know that you are a guy ... you mentioned that before.
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devsonfire
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Legendary_Dollci wrote...
We all know that people adapt to the environment they live in, such as jungles, deserts, mountains and even other places. However, I also wish to talk about the psychological influences caused by the environment people live in, not just in places, but also within families and friends.
Let's say we live in a jungle, and people need a calm and friendly environment among their communities and families so they can survive and also mentally support each other ... now let me change the rules .. imagine in a jungle, where nobody within the community is calm and everybody looses their cool and doesn't support each other, then they would be heading into a tribal extinction because of that "slight" change.
Legendary_Dollci wrote...
Now my biggest question is, does such small change affect a small tribe or community in a big way?
I don't think it's a small change man, it's a big difference, one is a community like Amish in America where they support each other very well, one is a ruthless community.
Back on topic: Human being is a social creature, it is very hard for us humans to live without belonging to a community to a group. Because it is our need to interact with someone else.
And of course, in my opinion, it is save to say that a change can affect a person's behavior drastically. We may possess calm and kick-back attitude, but a small change may change our behavior into a ruthless, malicious, selfish creature.
To affect us in a big way, I don't think it would be a small thing, because suddenly forced to survive in a jungle full of venomous animals for the people who lives in the rural city life is not small, and vice versa.