Hunting is for pussies.
Do you agree hunting for sport is for pussies?
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if you don't eat it, it's not hunting, its murder.
i've hunted a few times, but only for food, and only by stalking. no hiding in a tree where the deer never look, cuz they have no predators there, or using bait or decoys. and only with iron sights, no telescopic optics to shoot the damn thing on the next mountain over. or a bow, but you have to be really, really good, so you don't just maim it.
as for the so called management, it's another case of humans thinking they know better then millions of years of nature. nature always ballances it self out. if you kill all the carnivores, the herbavore population explodes. then they burn thruogh their food source, and starve to death, possibly taking other spicies with them. it's like fighting forrest fires, they're supposed to catch on fire every so often to clear out the brush and dead shit. plus there are some trees that have seeds that can't germinate without fire.
like most of the crap the government does, it's really all just about money. the real reason for killing wolves is to protect live stock. and fighting forrest fires is about protecting private property. neither is about "conservation".
over all, i agree, most hunter are pussies. with their big guns and huge 4x4 trucks, clearly compensating for being small in the pants.
i hate people. individualy, they're some times cool but, the larger the group, the dumber and more dangerous they become.
i've hunted a few times, but only for food, and only by stalking. no hiding in a tree where the deer never look, cuz they have no predators there, or using bait or decoys. and only with iron sights, no telescopic optics to shoot the damn thing on the next mountain over. or a bow, but you have to be really, really good, so you don't just maim it.
as for the so called management, it's another case of humans thinking they know better then millions of years of nature. nature always ballances it self out. if you kill all the carnivores, the herbavore population explodes. then they burn thruogh their food source, and starve to death, possibly taking other spicies with them. it's like fighting forrest fires, they're supposed to catch on fire every so often to clear out the brush and dead shit. plus there are some trees that have seeds that can't germinate without fire.
like most of the crap the government does, it's really all just about money. the real reason for killing wolves is to protect live stock. and fighting forrest fires is about protecting private property. neither is about "conservation".
over all, i agree, most hunter are pussies. with their big guns and huge 4x4 trucks, clearly compensating for being small in the pants.
i hate people. individualy, they're some times cool but, the larger the group, the dumber and more dangerous they become.
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nightclock wrote...
A better sport would be to get some anti-air and shoot down the hunters shooting wolves.i agree 100%.
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earlshaggwell wrote...
if you don't eat it, it's not hunting, its murder.i've hunted a few times, but only for food, and only by stalking. no hiding in a tree where the deer never look, cuz they have no predators there, or using bait or decoys. and only with iron sights, no telescopic optics to shoot the damn thing on the next mountain over. or a bow, but you have to be really, really good, so you don't just maim it.
as for the so called management, it's another case of humans thinking they know better then millions of years of nature. nature always ballances it self out. if you kill all the carnivores, the herbavore population explodes. then they burn thruogh their food source, and starve to death, possibly taking other spicies with them. it's like fighting forrest fires, they're supposed to catch on fire every so often to clear out the brush and dead shit. plus there are some trees that have seeds that can't germinate without fire.
like most of the crap the government does, it's really all just about money. the real reason for killing wolves is to protect live stock. and fighting forrest fires is about protecting private property. neither is about "conservation".
over all, i agree, most hunter are pussies. with their big guns and huge 4x4 trucks, clearly compensating for being small in the pants.
i hate people. individualy, they're some times cool but, the larger the group, the dumber and more dangerous they become.
we dont really have livestock up here, there are a few caribou ranches and such, but nothing like bovine. they want to slim the wolf pop. cause hunting is a big thing up here and hunters are only allowed a set number of kills a year, but the more the wolves kill, the less hunters can. I agree it is about the money, just a different reason.
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its was more honorable hunting an animal just for to eat the animal. but if u want hunt animal for sport juts use bare hand or a knife :wink:
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In this modern world, most of the people who hunt don't need to. Even if they eat the animal and use the fur and everything, the person probably didn't need to eat the animal to survive. After all, if you've got money for a gun and bullets, and those oh-so-fashionable orange jackets, then you can afford to go to the store and buy some goddamned good. Same with hunting with bows, unless your bow is just a stick with some string, because I've seen those big hunting bows before. Those fuckers are expensive, too.
I understand that there are some exceptions to this. A few years ago, a friend's boyfriend used to go hunting because he was poor and needed to spend the money he had on heat and similar things he couldn't shoot and eat. But for every situation like that, there are hundreds of situations where a person with plenty of money just wants to go hunting.
I understand that there are some exceptions to this. A few years ago, a friend's boyfriend used to go hunting because he was poor and needed to spend the money he had on heat and similar things he couldn't shoot and eat. But for every situation like that, there are hundreds of situations where a person with plenty of money just wants to go hunting.
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ShaggyJebus wrote...
In this modern world, most of the people who hunt don't need to. Even if they eat the animal and use the fur and everything, the person probably didn't need to eat the animal to survive. After all, if you've got money for a gun and bullets, and those oh-so-fashionable orange jackets, then you can afford to go to the store and buy some goddamned good. Same with hunting with bows, unless your bow is just a stick with some string, because I've seen those big hunting bows before. Those fuckers are expensive, too.I understand that there are some exceptions to this. A few years ago, a friend's boyfriend used to go hunting because he was poor and needed to spend the money he had on heat and similar things he couldn't shoot and eat. But for every situation like that, there are hundreds of situations where a person with plenty of money just wants to go hunting.
pretty much, makes them feel like they have a set...
clarification:
when i mentioned bows, i didnt mean a super composite mountain slayer of doom, just a pretty basic bow, -maybe- metal arrows
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Short Opinion. Take no Offense to it. It's only a opinion I have.
Hunting isn't really for pussies. If you have what it takes to shoot a living thing, human or animal, I wouldn't say you're a pussy.
If someone kills a human, I'd say that the person is more of a psycho or simply pissed off and probably doesn't care for what happens as a result. Then there is the idea that you're simply 'hard' or 'tough' enough to kill another human.
If someone kills an animal on the other hand... I guess that's just normal. It's not the greatest idea of a sport but it happens. Not only that, aren't certain animals killed for food? I think it has to happen; animals being killed. But ah.. maybe people are hunting a bit too much these days or simply 'overdoing' it.
Hunting isn't really for pussies. If you have what it takes to shoot a living thing, human or animal, I wouldn't say you're a pussy.
If someone kills a human, I'd say that the person is more of a psycho or simply pissed off and probably doesn't care for what happens as a result. Then there is the idea that you're simply 'hard' or 'tough' enough to kill another human.
If someone kills an animal on the other hand... I guess that's just normal. It's not the greatest idea of a sport but it happens. Not only that, aren't certain animals killed for food? I think it has to happen; animals being killed. But ah.. maybe people are hunting a bit too much these days or simply 'overdoing' it.
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nightclock wrote...
we dont really have livestock up here, there are a few caribou ranches and such, but nothing like bovine. they want to slim the wolf pop. cause hunting is a big thing up here and hunters are only allowed a set number of kills a year, but the more the wolves kill, the less hunters can. I agree it is about the money, just a different reason.
i was thinkin more about the olden days, when they had bounties on predators(do they still?), and to hear some of those hunters talk, they call it "harvesting", like the deer are some kind of crop. as if without them(hunters) the deer population would be out of control. and what about the other things the wolves eat? pests like mice and rabbits and such? are the hunters going to harvest them too?
only pussies hunt predators. do you check your closet for tigers? no, because in your house you are the top, like in the wild the predators are the top. do you look both ways before crossing you kitchen? no, because you don't expect to get hit by a bus in your kitchen. where's the callenge in hunting something that isn't expecting to be hunted?
so far i like luna's idea the best: if you want to hunt for sport, you have to use your bare hands. that should be a law. i guess you can use a knife if you want to hunt a predator, but no bigger than 6 inches.
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If you're going to hunt for sport don't do it with a gun. Do it with your bare Fucking hands. Don't be cheap. if the deer can't shoot at you with a rifle than you can't shoot at it with a rifle.
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M2991 wrote...
"Pig with lipstick" lol. But she is a bitch though, I hope the wolves jump into the plane and rip her to shreds.I only consider a hunter someone who hunts to survive(for food) and only otherwise if the kill the animal with their bare hands or a melee weapon.
I love wolves jut as much as dogs and foxes, I hate people like her.
i so agree with you on all of that!
hunting should be for food, not to boost an Ego that you killed something!
Let the wolves run free, they needs to eat like everyone else!
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All that said about anti hunting, we do the same for fishing as well, and i know that to be a very uncontriversial argument. So whats the difference?
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I used to be so against hunting when I was a kid, but now I realize how little difference their is from hunting as a personal sport to the beef you end up buying in the market. I'll never hunt, but I don't bitch at those who do anymore. XD
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Let's say you shot a deer with a .50 cal BMG round...would there be any appreciable quantity of usable meat left?
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Kadushy
Douchebag
I never went hunting before. Well, I did back a couple years ago with my uncle and them but it wasn't really called hunting. It was drive-bys. Driveing in the car until they saw something and step out of the car to shoot it. then do the same thing. The whole time for that so called "hunting" everyone stayed in the car the whole day.
But I believe you shouldn't hunt for the game. I would only do it for survival or killing it to take home and cook it.
But I believe you shouldn't hunt for the game. I would only do it for survival or killing it to take home and cook it.
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Being a hunter, I can tell you that I dont appreciate people who do it for pure sport alone....
I hunt deer and have them processed to eat every time. Hunting without eating them later is just wrong to me, not just in the sense that you're plain killing animals but also in the sense that you're wasting time doing something I think you shouldn't.
I hunt deer and have them processed to eat every time. Hunting without eating them later is just wrong to me, not just in the sense that you're plain killing animals but also in the sense that you're wasting time doing something I think you shouldn't.
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catfish wrote...
Being a hunter, I can tell you that I dont appreciate people who do it for pure sport alone....I hunt deer and have them processed to eat every time. Hunting without eating them later is just wrong to me, not just in the sense that you're plain killing animals but also in the sense that you're wasting time doing something I think you shouldn't.
Do you hunt on an empty stomach? If you have a bad day hunting, can you go home and starve? A hunter isn't a hunter if they have an option. I do praise you for your honesty and give you credit. If you're gonna kill something, you should make fucking sure that you don't let anything go to waste. However, if you can go to the store and buy food, you really shouldn't be out in the wild shooting animals that are attempting to survive with what nature gives them.
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sv51macross wrote...
Let's say you shot a deer with a .50 cal BMG round...would there be any appreciable quantity of usable meat left?Okay, then those people I don't appreciate. Killing animals for sport has no merit whatsoever.
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discordia wrote...
Kinda, the only reason I find applicable for hunting is to manage/balance wild life population.That really doesn't make sense. What would you think if a deer shot a person going to the store for some fucking bread and said to other deer that it was to manage/balance the human population? We might have a level of intelligence that other species don't, but if you use that intelligence to look at humans all over the world, you'll realize we're having enough fucking trouble managing our own fucking population.
The thing about nature is that it's managed to handle shit for billions of years on its own. That's why I don't get too upset about natural disasters and why I haven't become a homicidal maniac. I've come to accept that even if it doesn't work at the pace or in the way I want it to, nature does what it has to do.
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The idea of Hunting Wolfs, because of them killing Deer is retarded. Wolfs are being managed right now and are now off the endangered species list. There is population control on wolfs and you need a tag (license) to shoot them in Minnesota, right now they give out 200 tags a year or less depending on the population of wolfs in the state. Wolfs need to be managed, or else there will be an over population of them and they will run out of food source in the area and start coming into the citys.. and we dont need that.
Sara Pailen, has the wrong idea on why we need to control the wolfs population killing deer is there natural instinct to survive, and that should not be her damn reasoning to kill wolfs either you or pailen has the story wrong. i have not seen the article on this but i will look into it and edit if necessary.
I am a "Hunter" a sportsman who by you claim to just kill animals for the "Jollies" and put them on the wall.
Yes, I do kill animals for fun. The challenge on getting a wild animal up to you close enough to bag it is so exciting I cannot even explain it. I have a total of 5 mounts on my wall all of deer, all 12 or more point bucks. I worked very hard for all of them and im proud I got them so i am showing them off and praising them my putting them on my wall so everyone can see them. Better than just cutting off there head and discarding it and just taking the meat huh?
I eat everything I shoot. Duck, Quail, Pheasant, Deer, Moose, and i have even had Rabbit and Squirrel (not bad tastes like chicken)
But i understand your animal ACTIVIST ways, and i agree with most of what you said. I do not shoot just to KILL the animal and leave it in the forest or were ever i kill it. I use almost everything on the animal except for the organs.. I donate the hides every year to our donation center up here and they make leather bags and many other things..
now to the main point.
HUNTING..
Is used for population control.
if we just let the population of Deer or Wolfs get too high, they will start to run out of food and start getting sick spreading diseases and dieing. if you live in a forested area up north you would know how many deer are up north by seeing them on the roads. i will not even drive up north until hunting season starts because the population gets so high that there popping on the streets and shit and everyone is hitting them.
I believe your statements are wrong.
and so are Sara pailens
Hunting is helping everyone and the animals too.
don't say hunting is bad if you do not know what the hell you are talking about.
there are reasons for it.
Also, i do belive that you sir/mam are the pussy here. You will only complain on what happens elsewere you will never do anything about it except post on fourms saying "HUNTERS ARE PUSSIES" and not get anywere in life.
Hunters are not pussies they are helping out the community by keeping down the population.
there are only certain rounds and calibers you can use for hunting. a .50 cal would leave only half a deer laying on the ground. literally no usable meat.
The idea of Hunting Wolfs, because of them killing Deer is retarded. Wolfs are being managed right now and are now off the endangered species list. There is population control on wolfs and you need a tag (license) to shoot them in Minnesota, right now they give out 200 tags a year or less depending on the population of wolfs in the state. Wolfs need to be managed, or else there will be an over population of them and they will run out of food source in the area and start coming into the citys.. and we dont need that.
Sara Pailen, has the wrong idea on why we need to control the wolfs population killing deer is there natural instinct to survive, and that should not be her damn reasoning to kill wolfs either you or pailen has the story wrong. i have not seen the article on this but i will look into it and edit if necessary.
I am a "Hunter" a sportsman who by you claim to just kill animals for the "Jollies" and put them on the wall.
Yes, I do kill animals for fun. The challenge on getting a wild animal up to you close enough to bag it is so exciting I cannot even explain it. I have a total of 5 mounts on my wall all of deer, all 12 or more point bucks. I worked very hard for all of them and im proud I got them so i am showing them off and praising them my putting them on my wall so everyone can see them. Better than just cutting off there head and discarding it and just taking the meat huh?
I eat everything I shoot. Duck, Quail, Pheasant, Deer, Moose, and i have even had Rabbit and Squirrel (not bad tastes like chicken)
But i understand your animal ACTIVIST ways, and i agree with most of what you said. I do not shoot just to KILL the animal and leave it in the forest or were ever i kill it. I use almost everything on the animal except for the organs.. I donate the hides every year to our donation center up here and they make leather bags and many other things..
now to the main point.
HUNTING..
Is used for population control.
if we just let the population of Deer or Wolfs get too high, they will start to run out of food and start getting sick spreading diseases and dieing. if you live in a forested area up north you would know how many deer are up north by seeing them on the roads. i will not even drive up north until hunting season starts because the population gets so high that there popping on the streets and shit and everyone is hitting them.
I believe your statements are wrong.
and so are Sara pailens
Hunting is helping everyone and the animals too.
don't say hunting is bad if you do not know what the hell you are talking about.
there are reasons for it.
Also, i do belive that you sir/mam are the pussy here. You will only complain on what happens elsewere you will never do anything about it except post on fourms saying "HUNTERS ARE PUSSIES" and not get anywere in life.
Hunters are not pussies they are helping out the community by keeping down the population.
sv51macross wrote...
Let's say you shot a deer with a .50 cal BMG round...would there be any appreciable quantity of usable meat left?there are only certain rounds and calibers you can use for hunting. a .50 cal would leave only half a deer laying on the ground. literally no usable meat.