Is it ok to dislike someone because of their skin color...?
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...OR their nationality or what you think it might be... That is if you think they look Spanish they're automatically from Mexico so they're Mexicans and you don't like Mexicans... Or if they're Asian you suddenly think Chinese, or Japanese and, for some reason you don't like them...
And I don't mean like thinking "OMG NIGGER GONNA ROB ME" Or "Dirty Spic Takin' all our jobs" kind of thought, I mean like you might have a legitimate reason for disliking someone of a certain race...
Like say for example the "Nature Factor" most if not all encounters you've had with someone of a certain race are bad ones, or like in the case of a close friend of mine, his brother was killed by a black guy, and so now he hates all African Americans...
Then there's the "Nurture Factor" when you grew up with everyone around you acting as if a certain race is inferior for any odd reason... Of course this COULD be considered a legitimate reason for disliking someone after all they grew up with that train of thought...
But leaving all that aside do YOU think its OK to dislike everyone of a certain race when you have a legitimate reason...? And yes I know this is a very vague question...
Also I have no problems with anyone of any race, Ive been around and I know for a fact everyone of every race can be equally as asshole-ish and equally as nice...
I'm just trying to get someone else's point of view on this...
And I don't mean like thinking "OMG NIGGER GONNA ROB ME" Or "Dirty Spic Takin' all our jobs" kind of thought, I mean like you might have a legitimate reason for disliking someone of a certain race...
Like say for example the "Nature Factor" most if not all encounters you've had with someone of a certain race are bad ones, or like in the case of a close friend of mine, his brother was killed by a black guy, and so now he hates all African Americans...
Then there's the "Nurture Factor" when you grew up with everyone around you acting as if a certain race is inferior for any odd reason... Of course this COULD be considered a legitimate reason for disliking someone after all they grew up with that train of thought...
But leaving all that aside do YOU think its OK to dislike everyone of a certain race when you have a legitimate reason...? And yes I know this is a very vague question...
Also I have no problems with anyone of any race, Ive been around and I know for a fact everyone of every race can be equally as asshole-ish and equally as nice...
I'm just trying to get someone else's point of view on this...
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Nashrakh
Little White Butterflies Staff
tl;dr your question is, is racism ok?
I say no. I go as far as to say races don't even exist. It's all in our heads, and prejudices only do far worse than good.
I say no. I go as far as to say races don't even exist. It's all in our heads, and prejudices only do far worse than good.
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I don't think it's okay in the slightest; there is no legitimate reason for hating another person because of their race. If you couple one thing with another and show aggression or mistreatment towards a fellow human being because they share common similarities that you relate to a bad experience, you are being delusional and should probably seek psychological help.
If you were brought up with a certain chain of thought, it is your duty as a human being to correct that in order to live harmoniously with your own species. In the end each person of each race is really only you but with a few minor genetic alterations. They get the same chance as anyone else at life and so do you. They are capable of the same amount and so are you. They are your equal in the natural world, no matter how you see it.
If you were brought up with a certain chain of thought, it is your duty as a human being to correct that in order to live harmoniously with your own species. In the end each person of each race is really only you but with a few minor genetic alterations. They get the same chance as anyone else at life and so do you. They are capable of the same amount and so are you. They are your equal in the natural world, no matter how you see it.
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Well, Zak, I grew up in a family predominately racist against anyone non-white. They would insult Asians for Driving, Mexicans for stealing, Spanish for being Mexican, Black People for killing others and being gang-bangers, and Gays for being Gay
I just ignored it, but it was hard when everyone was doing it. I would say that it's hard to ignore this, and it eventually means you start to think like this.
Do I think people are inferior to me because of Skin color? I really hope I don't, but I get worried because it's hard for me to tell the difference between different black people or different Mexicans.
I recently was also introduced to my real grandfather (Long story), and found he is the most racist person I have ever seen. He constantly wishes that the small African Children (He always calls them N's) would get dropped from buildings, insults them for anything he can find, and is pretty much just a straight up asshole.
Now, you see, do I think that I would be different if I dealt with him my entire life? YES. I think I would have grown up significantly more racist if I had been forced to deal with him before I grew up and turned 18, when all people are more open to having their opinions changed by those around them, especially their relatives.
Is it RIGHT to hate people for different skin color: No.
Is it WRONG to hate people when you have been raised your entire life to hate them: No, that is the fault of the teachers, not the student. if you are taught your whole life that 3+3=9, It's not your fault you get the problem wrong, it's the person who taught you that.
It's not right to dislike someone because of Skin Color, but it's also not right to immediately blame hatred of other Skin Colors on that person who hates them without knowing their reasons.
For example: Zak's friend who hates Blacks because a black man murdered his Brother, it's not RIGHT to hate them, but he has a good reason for it.
I just ignored it, but it was hard when everyone was doing it. I would say that it's hard to ignore this, and it eventually means you start to think like this.
Do I think people are inferior to me because of Skin color? I really hope I don't, but I get worried because it's hard for me to tell the difference between different black people or different Mexicans.
I recently was also introduced to my real grandfather (Long story), and found he is the most racist person I have ever seen. He constantly wishes that the small African Children (He always calls them N's) would get dropped from buildings, insults them for anything he can find, and is pretty much just a straight up asshole.
Now, you see, do I think that I would be different if I dealt with him my entire life? YES. I think I would have grown up significantly more racist if I had been forced to deal with him before I grew up and turned 18, when all people are more open to having their opinions changed by those around them, especially their relatives.
Is it RIGHT to hate people for different skin color: No.
Is it WRONG to hate people when you have been raised your entire life to hate them: No, that is the fault of the teachers, not the student. if you are taught your whole life that 3+3=9, It's not your fault you get the problem wrong, it's the person who taught you that.
It's not right to dislike someone because of Skin Color, but it's also not right to immediately blame hatred of other Skin Colors on that person who hates them without knowing their reasons.
For example: Zak's friend who hates Blacks because a black man murdered his Brother, it's not RIGHT to hate them, but he has a good reason for it.
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I personally think that racism has too much hype. It is difficult to know where to draw the line, and we as a society seem to swing back and forth over it continuously. I think lots of people confuse dislike or hate for a particular culture as racism. Historically there has always been a strong correlation between race and culture, so it is easy to confuse the two.
I am not in the least bit racist, but that does not mean that I am not allowed to dislike or even hate a particular culture. If that culture then tends to be populated by people of a particular race it may seem to other people as though I am racist. I may even start to create generalizations about people of that race if they all seem to share the same culture, which of course will only confuse the problem.
This is of course where racism comes from initially. People see that other people who have a different skin color also tend to be different in ways that they don't appreciate, and so they develop a jerk reaction based on skin color, rather than culture.
In our modern culture though, we are so paranoid of becoming "racist" that it is no longer acceptable to dislike the habits of other cultures. Somehow you are supposed to simply not have an opinion on them, or else think that they are great. You can't voice your disagreement or you become racist. The line of what is acceptable is of course somewhere down the middle... but not everyone has the ability to differentiate the two.
I am not in the least bit racist, but that does not mean that I am not allowed to dislike or even hate a particular culture. If that culture then tends to be populated by people of a particular race it may seem to other people as though I am racist. I may even start to create generalizations about people of that race if they all seem to share the same culture, which of course will only confuse the problem.
This is of course where racism comes from initially. People see that other people who have a different skin color also tend to be different in ways that they don't appreciate, and so they develop a jerk reaction based on skin color, rather than culture.
In our modern culture though, we are so paranoid of becoming "racist" that it is no longer acceptable to dislike the habits of other cultures. Somehow you are supposed to simply not have an opinion on them, or else think that they are great. You can't voice your disagreement or you become racist. The line of what is acceptable is of course somewhere down the middle... but not everyone has the ability to differentiate the two.
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I think it's perfectly fine to dislike someone because of a cultural basis and affiliated behaviors, i.e. adhering to stereotypical demeanor, poise and activity. Naturally there is going to be a lot correlation between culture and racial background, but it's not an explicit cause and effect.
Just judge people on what they actually do, and if they do things that you don't like, political correctness and anti-racism is a terrible reason to accept someone if they do give you legitimate cause to want to not associate with them.
Just judge people on what they actually do, and if they do things that you don't like, political correctness and anti-racism is a terrible reason to accept someone if they do give you legitimate cause to want to not associate with them.
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StaticChange wrote...
I personally think that racism has too much hype. It is difficult to know where to draw the line, and we as a society seem to swing back and forth over it continuously. I think lots of people confuse dislike or hate for a particular culture as racism. Historically there has always been a strong correlation between race and culture, so it is easy to confuse the two.I am not in the least bit racist, but that does not mean that I am not allowed to dislike or even hate a particular culture. If that culture then tends to be populated by people of a particular race it may seem to other people as though I am racist. I may even start to create generalizations about people of that race if they all seem to share the same culture, which of course will only confuse the problem.
This is of course where racism comes from initially. People see that other people who have a different skin color also tend to be different in ways that they don't appreciate, and so they develop a jerk reaction based on skin color, rather than culture.
In our modern culture though, we are so paranoid of becoming "racist" that it is no longer acceptable to dislike the habits of other cultures. Somehow you are supposed to simply not have an opinion on them, or else think that they are great. You can't voice your disagreement or you become racist. The line of what is acceptable is of course somewhere down the middle... but not everyone has the ability to differentiate the two.
couldn't have put it any better.
also, it's o.k. for me to dislike people for whatever reason I choose, and so I do. I don't need to answer to anyone in the world when it comes to my dis/likes, really. My mind is my own.
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Cruz
Dope Stone Lion
But when you say you dislike a group of people(could be any) you're kinda saying i don't really see them as people but one giant bad group. It's called stereotyping someone, which is what most people do even though its wrong and many times just shows people's ignorance. Its like me saying everyone in Fakku except me is a lonely loser with no girlfriend and is detested by society, which would completely false and just kinda asshole-ish.
So simply don't just group all people together and claim there all the same, because more than likely you're not that normal or plain. Just watch the Colbert report when he talks about Sotamayor in "The Word". It was funny and accurate.
So simply don't just group all people together and claim there all the same, because more than likely you're not that normal or plain. Just watch the Colbert report when he talks about Sotamayor in "The Word". It was funny and accurate.
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My family contains/ed (since my parents are divorced) two caucasian parents and 8 black kids, me included as the eldest. When I was younger, and when my brother started to get into highschool, there was alot of racism based on the fact that white people were raising black kids and that we did not fit the stereotypical "black attitude". I would join groups that celebrated African Americans and get told that I was anything but because my skin was not dark as night. My brother was pushed down the stairs once in school because some faggot thought it'd be funny to call him a "n*gger" (I can't type/say that word at all pff) and do so. Also, our own financial status would be questioned. A older hick lady that worked at the store SAW the debit card in my mom's hand, tried to fix the problem at the self check out and asked if we were using our food card. My mother trolled her by sayin' "WHAT CHU MEAN BY DA "FOOD CARD"? WHAT'RE YA TRYIN' TO SUH-HAY?" all ghetto. Hilarious but it was still stupid and unfair.
So I could accept people, just not their jackass self. I'm not saying it's JUST certain people in the African American community but this is what I've experienced as being half A.A. myself.
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So I could accept people, just not their jackass self. I'm not saying it's JUST certain people in the African American community but this is what I've experienced as being half A.A. myself.
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Race is just a word describing the differences from one person to the next. Should racism be allowed nowadays? No. Is it prejudice to judge one? Yes. But as Zak stated, there are reasonble _LEGIT_ reasons for someone to feel that way towards another person.
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I seem to be a minority in this opinion...
Is it okay to dislike someone based on their skin color? If we take the words directly, I say yes. It is absolutely okay to dislike people for any reason. It is a value and no amount of mediation or therapy will ever change it. However, is it okay for you to act on your dislike? By our society's morals absolutely not.
From my perspective, everyone carries a bias against those he or she cannot relate with. If an African American person were to hire, he or she would most likely hire an African American (or in the rare instance, the ethnicity he or she grew up with, I know a Caucasian friend that would prefer an Asian co-worker over another Caucasian because he grew up surrounded by Asians). Same goes for any other ethnicity. It's how people evolved to make and maintain communities.
Despite my earlier example, I do believe that everyone should try to be unbiased as possible when it comes to treatment of fellow human beings. Simply preferring one choice over another doesn't mean you should act upon it. Give everything an equal chance.
Is it okay to dislike someone based on their skin color? If we take the words directly, I say yes. It is absolutely okay to dislike people for any reason. It is a value and no amount of mediation or therapy will ever change it. However, is it okay for you to act on your dislike? By our society's morals absolutely not.
From my perspective, everyone carries a bias against those he or she cannot relate with. If an African American person were to hire, he or she would most likely hire an African American (or in the rare instance, the ethnicity he or she grew up with, I know a Caucasian friend that would prefer an Asian co-worker over another Caucasian because he grew up surrounded by Asians). Same goes for any other ethnicity. It's how people evolved to make and maintain communities.
Despite my earlier example, I do believe that everyone should try to be unbiased as possible when it comes to treatment of fellow human beings. Simply preferring one choice over another doesn't mean you should act upon it. Give everything an equal chance.
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It all depends on "how" you dislike em.
If you think there's some sort of actual reasons behind it like "this person has that skin color, and therefor has these and these bad qualities", I will never agree. Everyone is an individual, and skin color does not influence the way you grow up and experience life directly.
Only the media does, cuz it tells you you should act different because of your skin color so they can sell you things, and then the person chooses to believe it or not, for whatever reason.
Then there's just being put off by skin color, for no rational reason. That's fine with me.
Like I said, there's no rational reason. If it's a mental trigger of sorts, that's you're thing, but I don't think you're a bad human for just having that feeling, so long as it stays with that feeling. What I can't tolerate is that someone base their actions on it in a way that harms the other person.
If you think there's some sort of actual reasons behind it like "this person has that skin color, and therefor has these and these bad qualities", I will never agree. Everyone is an individual, and skin color does not influence the way you grow up and experience life directly.
Only the media does, cuz it tells you you should act different because of your skin color so they can sell you things, and then the person chooses to believe it or not, for whatever reason.
Then there's just being put off by skin color, for no rational reason. That's fine with me.
Like I said, there's no rational reason. If it's a mental trigger of sorts, that's you're thing, but I don't think you're a bad human for just having that feeling, so long as it stays with that feeling. What I can't tolerate is that someone base their actions on it in a way that harms the other person.
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Iv never met a person that has never had a racist thought everybody has them its human nature, but to actually hate someone is totally differnt, to answer the question, no its never ok.
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I think it is fine to hate someone by their skin color but don`t judge them how they act. Try to talk to them first!!!and find out what you want to find out. lol
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Solely based on race? Errr, yeah, kinda.
But based on personality, fine.
It's weird how being P.C. works. But it really is for the best, not racially discriminating, that is. I mean, I'd hate to be judged just for how I look on the outside, so why would I do it to others?
The only sort of outward appearance I judge on a regular basis with it people's levels of hygiene... which I think is pretty acceptable.
But based on personality, fine.
It's weird how being P.C. works. But it really is for the best, not racially discriminating, that is. I mean, I'd hate to be judged just for how I look on the outside, so why would I do it to others?
The only sort of outward appearance I judge on a regular basis with it people's levels of hygiene... which I think is pretty acceptable.
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No, it is not okay under any circumstance.
How can you pass judgment on someone’s character based solely upon something they had no involvement in deciding – their genetic makeup? Did you have any say or role in your creation as a human being? Did anybody have a conscience involvement in their creation?
So why treat anyone as if they did? Why judge someone as if they had that ability to pick and choose who they were to be born as?
I don't care how you were raised or how you were taught. Any mature adult capable of independent thought can recognize that judgment of character, not appearance, is made. The only excuse there is for shoving people into the cookie-cutter shapes that stereotypes present is if you are an ignorant, ignorant fool.
How can you pass judgment on someone’s character based solely upon something they had no involvement in deciding – their genetic makeup? Did you have any say or role in your creation as a human being? Did anybody have a conscience involvement in their creation?
So why treat anyone as if they did? Why judge someone as if they had that ability to pick and choose who they were to be born as?
I don't care how you were raised or how you were taught. Any mature adult capable of independent thought can recognize that judgment of character, not appearance, is made. The only excuse there is for shoving people into the cookie-cutter shapes that stereotypes present is if you are an ignorant, ignorant fool.
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Nashrakh wrote...
tl;dr your question is, is racism ok?I say no. I go as far as to say races don't even exist. It's all in our heads, and prejudices only do far worse than good.
Yet you think Filipinos are lesser beings ( Intellectually ) Just cause they're Filipino.
You make me sick.
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I'm a Chinese born in Indonesia...they always give us the yeah, they're filthy rich so we have the right to rob them...They rob us from our jobs, they have to pay us money...and shit like that...
So...maybe...
So...maybe...
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Nashrakh
Little White Butterflies Staff
kabalan20 wrote...
Nashrakh wrote...
tl;dr your question is, is racism ok?I say no. I go as far as to say races don't even exist. It's all in our heads, and prejudices only do far worse than good.
Yet you think Filipinos are lesser beings ( Intellectually ) Just cause they're Filipino.
You make me sick.
Because what I say in Random and IB is to be taken more seriously than what I say in Serious Discussion, hell yeah.
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Nashrakh wrote...
kabalan20 wrote...
Nashrakh wrote...
tl;dr your question is, is racism ok?I say no. I go as far as to say races don't even exist. It's all in our heads, and prejudices only do far worse than good.
Yet you think Filipinos are lesser beings ( Intellectually ) Just cause they're Filipino.
You make me sick.
Because what I say in Random and IB is to be taken more seriously than what I say in Serious Discussion, hell yeah.
Familiar with this?
It's practically the same as what you said Racist.
I demand you apologize...which after checking my other tab...you still haven't done.