Is suicide wrong?
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Maxiart wrote...
Nobosaki wrote...
ZiggyOtaku wrote...
I'd have to agree with Rbz. Everyone claims suicide is a sin, yet they're the first people to call those people losers, weak, lame, etc despite the fact that right on the 10 commandments it says [size=13]Thou Shalt Not Judge.[/h]Start confessing.
Exodus 20:2-17: "2 I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery;
3 Do not have any other gods before me.
4 You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me,
6 but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.
7 You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.
8 Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy.
9 For six days you shall labour and do all your work.
10 But the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God; you shall not do any work—you, your son or your daughter, your male or female slave, your livestock, or the alien resident in your towns.
11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but rested the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and consecrated it.
12 Honor your father and your mother, so that your days may be long in the land that the Lord your God is giving you.
13 You shall not murder.
14 You shall not commit adultery.
15 You shall not steal.
16 You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
17 You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor."
I never see anything about thou shalt not judge. Here are some other verses relating to the 10 commandments.
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There's also this:
The fifth commandment forbids suicide and the mercy killing of those who are dying, even to eliminate suffering. The ordinary care of those facing an imminent death may not morally be withheld, according to the Church. "Ordinary care" refers to food, water and pain relief, and does not include "extraordinary care", which refers to the use of respirators or feeding tubes that are considered discretionary. Allowing a terminally ill person to die, using painkillers that may shorten their life, or refusing extraordinary treatment to the terminally ill such as chemotherapy or radiation, are considered morally acceptable and not a violation of the fifth commandment.
So bringing in the commandments works against your argument
EDIT: this is kinda funny since I'm posting the commandments on a porn site and masturbating and porn are both sins :X
"Masturbation is considered sinful for the same reasons as lust, but is a step above lust in that it involves a physical act instead of a mental one."
"Pornography ranks higher because it is considered a perversion of the sexual act that is intended for distribution to third parties for viewing."
Wait, you are a Christian?
Also, I fully agree with Rbz.
Yeah, I am....didn't say I was a good one though lol.
As for Rbz's statement, if the only argument to why suicide is wrong is that they're quitting, then yeah, I agree. But if it's not the main reason and only a supporting statement, then I disagree.
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Brittany
FAKKU Production Mngr
Oh goodie we get to pick and choose the rules God set for us, this Christian thing is easy.
Though touche on the Thou shalt not judge thing. Where did I hear that from then? Hmm...
Though touche on the Thou shalt not judge thing. Where did I hear that from then? Hmm...
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ZiggyOtaku wrote...
Oh goodie we get to pick and choose the rules God set for us, this Christian thing is easy.Haha, far be it for me to say you're my type of friend, Ziggy. XD
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ZiggyOtaku wrote...
Oh goodie we get to pick and choose the rules God set for us, this Christian thing is easy.Though touche on the Thou shalt not judge thing. Where did I hear that from then? Hmm...
We don't get to pick >.> I know I'm a sinner and I know I'm wrong because I continue to do these things. I'll just have to see what waits for me farther down the road.
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A person should have the right to do whatever he want with his own life. If he wants to end it, then he should be allowed to. Saying "it's a sin" and shit like that isn't worth shit; as just as a man may choose how to live his life, he should have the rights to choose how to end it.
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Nobosaki wrote...
ZiggyOtaku wrote...
Oh goodie we get to pick and choose the rules God set for us, this Christian thing is easy.Though touche on the Thou shalt not judge thing. Where did I hear that from then? Hmm...
We don't get to pick >.> I know I'm a sinner and I know I'm wrong because I continue to do these things. I'll just have to see what waits for me farther down the road.
Tell that to the Pilgrim Holiness churches. Masturbation is a sin doncha know?
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Brittany
FAKKU Production Mngr
Nobosaki wrote...
ZiggyOtaku wrote...
Oh goodie we get to pick and choose the rules God set for us, this Christian thing is easy.Though touche on the Thou shalt not judge thing. Where did I hear that from then? Hmm...
We don't get to pick >.> I know I'm a sinner and I know I'm wrong because I continue to do these things. I'll just have to see what waits for me farther down the road.
Then don't you think it's more important to worry about the own sins you willingly create and let other people tend to their own sins as well?
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I was taught in church that belief in our God, and our savior Jesus Christ, was the true path to heaven, following in his teachings, acting in his name, these are the important traits as i see them.
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ZiggyOtaku wrote...
Nobosaki wrote...
ZiggyOtaku wrote...
Oh goodie we get to pick and choose the rules God set for us, this Christian thing is easy.Though touche on the Thou shalt not judge thing. Where did I hear that from then? Hmm...
We don't get to pick >.> I know I'm a sinner and I know I'm wrong because I continue to do these things. I'll just have to see what waits for me farther down the road.
Then don't you think it's more important to worry about the own sins you willingly create and let other people tend to their own sins as well?
I was just giving my opinion if suicide is wrong or not >.> Besides, what's so wrong with helping others at the same time? And I was taught that we were all sinners so worrying about my sins would be 24/7/365 worrying. I know I'll commit more sins later in my life also so I'll stress myself out with all the worrying.
Tsurayu wrote...
Nobosaki wrote...
ZiggyOtaku wrote...
Oh goodie we get to pick and choose the rules God set for us, this Christian thing is easy.Though touche on the Thou shalt not judge thing. Where did I hear that from then? Hmm...
We don't get to pick >.> I know I'm a sinner and I know I'm wrong because I continue to do these things. I'll just have to see what waits for me farther down the road.
Tell that to the Pilgrim Holiness churches. Masturbation is a sin doncha know?
I already said that
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Why would anyone think masturbation should be a sin? You're not hurting anyone, you're not condemning the human race into celibacy like you can pretend homosexuality does. >.<
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Tsurayu wrote...
Why would anyone think masturbation should be a sin? You're not hurting anyone, you're not condemning the human race into celibacy like you can pretend homosexuality does. >.<looked it up and apparently it's a higher form of lust because there's a physical action.
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Nobosaki wrote...
Tsurayu wrote...
Why would anyone think masturbation should be a sin? You're not hurting anyone, you're not condemning the human race into celibacy like you can pretend homosexuality does. >.<looked it up and apparently it's a higher form of lust because there's a physical action.
where did you look it up?, because i have found that all bible interpretation sites are not created equal.
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TheDarkStarAlchemist
Requests Moderator
If it is your life, it is your choice to live. Your choice is you want to off yourself. No one else's. No it's not wrong, it's not a sin. It's a choice. Nothing more.
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Rob920 wrote...
Nobosaki wrote...
Tsurayu wrote...
Why would anyone think masturbation should be a sin? You're not hurting anyone, you're not condemning the human race into celibacy like you can pretend homosexuality does. >.<looked it up and apparently it's a higher form of lust because there's a physical action.
where did you look it up?, because i have found that all bible interpretation sites are not created equal.
My grandpa has a book that explains the commandments out in detail from what he learned from priests he talked to. Of course every bible interpretation would be different but that's depending on your point of view.
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Ironbootdong wrote...
feonixking wrote...
Polter wrote...
Suicide is a pathetic shortcut for those who want to quit the game. And those people are called quitters and losers. As long as a person lives, he has hope.-edit-
The rep system is gone?
I dont mean to be mean but what if he is under a huge amount of debt very huge that even if he worked so hard for it it ill not get 1% of his/her debt.
So because he screwed up in life to accumulate a large debt, he will kill himself and torture all his loved ones? What if the people he owed the debt to passed it on to his family? Then they have to suffer because he didn't want to. Suicide is very selfish for those kind of reasons.
no its not selfish and besides will you give information to your family if you have a huge debt
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Um, I Don't think its absolutely wrong, but when people feel absolute despair they think it's the only solution to a temporary problem.
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There is no right or wrong for suicide no matter what the reason.
As what may seem trivial to us may have really mattered to them at that point of time or maybe its something we can never feel or understand throughout our whole lives
I do think its short-sighted though.
In any case,just let the suicide-ee settle it up with the big guy up there
As what may seem trivial to us may have really mattered to them at that point of time or maybe its something we can never feel or understand throughout our whole lives
I do think its short-sighted though.
In any case,just let the suicide-ee settle it up with the big guy up there
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Suicide isn't wrong. People should be able to do anything they want to their bodies.
Now, regarding these people who speak of Sin
There's a lot of people that say it's a Sin. Well, yeah. So are a lot of thinks like sex before marriage and no babies before marriage and stuff like that. And those people still think they go to heaven. Sin is forgiven.
Now, regarding these people who speak of Sin
There's a lot of people that say it's a Sin. Well, yeah. So are a lot of thinks like sex before marriage and no babies before marriage and stuff like that. And those people still think they go to heaven. Sin is forgiven.
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Unsigned wrote...
Suicide isn't wrong. People should be able to do anything they want to their bodies.Now, regarding these people who speak of Sin
There's a lot of people that say it's a Sin. Well, yeah. So are a lot of thinks like sex before marriage and no babies before marriage and stuff like that. And those people still think they go to heaven. Sin is forgiven.
Yes but you have to repent for your sins or they won't be forgiven. That's why suicide is wrong because you can't repent for it (note: there's still alot of things wrong with suicide but in this case I'm only referring to it being a sin)
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Nobosaki wrote...
Unsigned wrote...
Suicide isn't wrong. People should be able to do anything they want to their bodies.Now, regarding these people who speak of Sin
There's a lot of people that say it's a Sin. Well, yeah. So are a lot of thinks like sex before marriage and no babies before marriage and stuff like that. And those people still think they go to heaven. Sin is forgiven.
Yes but you have to repent for your sins or they won't be forgiven. That's why suicide is wrong because you can't repent for it (note: there's still alot of things wrong with suicide but in this case I'm only referring to it being a sin)
I was under the impression that sins were forgiven once you accepted Christ as your savior. or are you one of those who believe Christians go to hell if they kill themselves?