Kids? All-around discussion.

How old do you think is the correct age to be considering children. Under what circumstances do you feel people should reproduce? How many kids is too many?

2 kid rule in China? Thoughts?

At what point in a relationship or marriage do you begin to address the subject of children with your partner?

Birth control and abortion? Do you currently use birth control, your thoughts on it? Your stance on abortion.


ETC ETC ETC ETC. I have a huge desire to debate and discuss these things with someone.

don't think it should be based on age but on personal desire and ability to care for the children if someone doesn't want a kid then its best not to force them into it or if someone isn't financially stable enough to support a child I don't think age should take priority over these two major points


I think the 2 kid rule is stupid people should be able to do what they want long as they have the ability to support their actions responsibly

I think it should be at a time when both the guy and girl in a relationship are stable and able to act on their own that they should be able to talk about having kids

birth control and abortion I am open to birth control my only thing is there are some health risks I don't mind using condoms myself so I don't think a girl should put herself at any risk for that
as for the abortion I'm a bit iffy on that, on one end I think people should have the freedom of choice however I have been taught that the first born child of someone is always the strongest be it true or not I still am against killing a firstborn

For me personally I am a woman who is a huge advocate of birth control. I do realize in passion and heats of the moment sometimes a condom can be impractical. Or in a long-term relationship with someone there comes a level of love and trust that also may make condom use less desirable.

With my birth control pills I can rely entirely on myself. I do not want a child until I'm financially capable of supporting one. I feel like pregnancies should be, for the most part, planned ones. I do agree that accidents happen and I'm on the fence with abortion. I believe it should be a choice between the to parental units who created the baby to decide on the course of action.

I think the 2-person rule is a little silly, especially the way it's carried out at the moment. However, I do acknowledge our population on this planet is growing and exhausting certain limited resources. I don't find it practical to have 20 children, even if you can support them all.

As far as age goes, I cannot stand these 16 and pregnant things. I think that as a teen it's far too early to be getting pregnant. Teens should be able to have sex that's their body and their decision, however I feel like birth control and a better overall understanding of birth control at that crucial age of sex exploration is a MUST.

So I'm very pro sex education in schools, however I wish they'd change it from "You're all going to get STD's and die" sort of thing. I think it should be more education on birth control, and family planning. How much money and time it takes to raise a child.

Physically speaking I believe they have the ages just right, 18-22 is about the time I would consider someone a young adult rather than a teenager. Mentally speaking it's out in the open, I know some teenagers that have the maturity levels of full-grown adults and some full-grown adults with the maturity levels of a toddler.

People should reproduce when they feel they can handle the responsibility of having a child and when they fully understand the repercussions it brings along, pregnancies should always be planned, never accidents. I also think the two person rule in China is perfectly fine and that there's nothing silly about it at all, in order to build a brighter future youth need to be given the love and resources they require in order to grow up happily, with the right point of view in mind and the ability to end up working with a subject they're passionate about. Simply put, especially in this day and age with the economy in ruins, it's hard to imagine being able to do that for more than two or three kids. A family nowadays often requires both parents to be constantly working in order to support it, hell, most couples have a hard enough time supporting themselves let alone a few children on top of that; I just can't see them having a proper upbringing when the parents have to split up their time among so many of them.



There is such a thing as overpopulation you know, we've seen it's effects on species in nature and it's not hard to understand that the quality of life around the world will drastically decrease if the limited resources we have are split up between too many people.

I think birth control should be used unless you're actually planning to have a kid. Sex education is a bit... well, clearly it isn't doing much to help, what with the incredible number of teen pregnancies.

I think if a girl already has their first period then they're not really children anymore.

For the 2 kids rule, here in Indonesia there's a similar rule too. Though in here it's not mandatory (but recommended). Maybe it's because China is already overpopulated... They need to keep it in control.

Birth Control is good. As a medical student I can approve of it. If you don't want any chidren, either forever or only temporarily, birth control is really great. And it's not really hard to use, and not too expensive (except the ones implanted under the skin. It's a bit hurts).

Well, for abortion... It sucks. Never do it. So many complications that might happen, and it's expensive. It's also illegal in some countries. In my country here it's illegal except for some exception.

Well this seems like a good way to piss some people off but let's dive in I suppose.

I think anyone who tries to have a child before their mid twenties is out of their goddamn mind. It doesn't matter what law says, turning 18 doesn't make you an adult. A conscious decision to take responsibility for who you are and your life in general makes you an adult, and I see people into their 30's who are still immature to the point of being, what I consider to be, a child. Not even to mention that fact that marriages that early rarely make it in this society. There is also no way you have lived enough by that point to be able to selflessly devote yourself you your children like a good parent should, and then not have any regrets about it later in life. Finally you have to think of how unfinancially stable most people are this young. So to get to the crux of it, age isn't as much of a factor as mental maturity and your paycheck. You know, actually being able to PROVIDE for your child =/

It's hard to limit something like children but I do think people need to seriously think about overpopulation. This isn't the dark ages where you conceived 20 children over the course of your life because only half were born living and then only three made it past childhood. Yet you still have people having 6 or more children just because. On top of that you have people living twice as long. It's a mess that will eventually collapse us if we don't A.limit child birth B.Find more resources and space via colonization of other worlds. Obviously one of those is pretty fucking far-fetched at the moment. However both could happen at some point.

I think something like children usually comes up at some point before marriage. So if you are married the subject of children should be addressed when both parties meet the first paragraph criteria and are ready and willing for the child. Nobody should be pressured by their partner, as some are. I see plenty of marriages where only one of the spouses wanted children and it was pretty fucking miserable.

I am 100% for birth control because I am 100% for sex... heh. I do however take issue with abortion. I've already written enough of an essay for one post, so I will address this straightforwardly. I am not religious by any means, I am actually a man of science. Thanks to that I am aware of numerous studies that show life pretty much does start at conception. That's by the 7 laws of life as stated by biology by the way. The only form I would find mildly tolerable is something like a morning after pill, or the way they do it in some countries where the abortion can be performed if it poses a serious health risk to the mother.

[font=courier new]I don't really think a certain age has anything to do with reproduction(except of course for legal reasons of 18). It's more of if you're ready to have one and actually do want one. I think in this day and age you can live with only just having one kid but of course that isn't to say you can't have more.

The 2 child policy(formerly the one child policy), while I would usually argue it to be a bit silly, in China's case it was and still is necessary(although they have become more lenient in allowing a second child now). The Chinese people experienced a large jump in life expectancy when Mao and the Reds came to power and gave people better health care among other things which meant less people died and infant mortality dropped. Not to mention their culture of having their children look after them in old age, who wouldn't want to have 5 or 6 people taking care of you when you're old.

All those factors come into play and you find that the population in China is expected to double in a mere 30 years. Of course they're going to need to moderate this, albeit poorly. Point is, without that policy, China's population would've grown exponentially until it could no longer support itself and the only option was either collapse or mass cullings.

I've never been in a serious relationship(I'm married to my job) so I've never had to think of addressing the issue of having kids with a personal other. I do think about having a kid though, from time to time.

kids are awsome, i love em and i would love to have some when im older. however, i feel in todays world to be a resonsable human being you ether have to have 0 or -1 population groth in a family, so 1 or 2 kids max. if everyone did this it would lead to a global trend of poptlation stability as well as eventually solve all our food and energy problems. i think that you have to be in a stable DIPS relationship with someone you love before you even consider having kids or adopting.

I generally agree with most of what you said sir. I think that having a child before your early to mid-20's is absolutely crazy. Although I also agree waiting until you are in your 30's to 40's is also crazy as well. I think there's a "sweet spot" right in your mid 20's that seems, at least in my mind, the right time to consider children. I'm currently in my early 20's and feel like within 2-3 years I might consider children as long as my partner is alright with it.

I also think having 6 or more children, "just because", is highly irresponsible. I say replace yourself, replace your spouse, and have my max is 4. If you have more than 4 children, ESPECIALLY if you cannot afford them financially, I think you're an irresponsible person.

And yeah I'm 100% pro birth control also. I feel like a pregnancy should always, always, ALWAYS be planned. If you aren't ready for that responsibility then either wear a condom, or if you're a woman be on birth control either the pill, or the patch, or the arm implant. Sheesh there's so many options for women's birth control it's crazy.

In general my thought process is "be responsible". Just be a damn responsible human being in the subject matter of children.

Solid is talking about the age he thinks is the right time for having children.

OT: You thinking about having kids, OP?

I'll feel like a hypocrite answering these questions, oh well.

I think the right time to have kids is when you and your partner are both financially stable and have gotten to that point in your life where you already know what you're doing.

I don't think there's a limit to how many children you can have. The earth can sustain itself.
Just do this, pick a number of kids you want. After that, image starting your Menopause. Will you be content with the amount of children you picked?

When do you start talking about kids with your partner? When you start having sex or when you start feeling you want some already.

Now, as for birth control. I would personally say no to it. Only have sex when you intend on having kids already.

A couple of months back, me and my gf started having sex(with condoms of course). Sooner or later though, I wanted to try no condoms. We had a pregnancy scare when she didn't have her period for a week on her due date. I'm only 18, so I thought my life was over. Thankfully she didn't get pregnant at the time. Point is that even with contraceptives it's easy to succumb to your desire to do it without them, for condoms at least.
TL;DR Don't have sex until you're ready for possibility of babies.

People should start having children when they are physically, emotionally, and intelliectually mature, along with the abilities to support them.



...18 and 19 year olds are not a teenagers?

@OP

To me I think children should be <12, mainly because after this age seems fairly capable of making decent decisions. Though I know nothing about this field of study, so my opinion is fairly arbitrary.

People should reproduce when rape is not involved. Besides that it is up to the individuals involved to decide if they want to risk their lives to have a child.

Too many children completely depends on the socioeconomic pressures in a country. Otherwise it is none of my concern. The 2 kid rule in China should reflect the socioeconomic pressure that befall China.

I don't really have enough experience in relationships to be familiar with discussing children, but I don't think marriage matters. Though 3 years seems sufficient given a quick google search/looking at a bit of data. That is the point where a lot of break ups seem to happen, so it is probably best to wait until after that point so that the parents do not have to deal with supporting a child if they break up.

If you don't want a kid, birth control and abortion seem like good ways of ensuring that doesn't happen. To me a "unborn child" is a mass of cells, "killing" it is the same as cleaning out a bathtub.

Then again I tend to just say most of this is none of my business. Personally I currently think I am going to lead an entire life of sexual abstinence, because I have lost all interest in the 3D world in regards to forming relationships involving sex/kids (definitely not at the same time).
Hmm, I took a much less personal approach than most it seems.

I am clearly not talking about the formal definition.

Ah, considering children, not considered as. My bad. Deleting my original post because it's fucking irrelevant then.

Well, whenever they can sustain themselves, or as long as they think they are ready. But, I think the former is better. If they can't sustain themselves, how would they feed their children?



There's a limit on how many people a country can contain.



At the start. I personally think it's better to sort it out first thing.



Birth control, personally. While I don't think abortion is a good thing, there are some circumstances where people MAY NEED to abort their kid.

It depends on the maturity of the people involved.
25 is fine.
In my opinion, it is too much to have a maximum of 4 kids.



Like what users above says, it depends on the status of the country. In a populous country like here in the Philippines, this topic is still debatable, whether or not we should control the birth rate or let it naturally grow and abide to what the mass religion has to say.



I've never been in a relationship, but if you still want my opinion, I would say that it should be when both parties are emotionally ready provided that they are financially capable to sustain life after a child birth.



Based on the current status of my homeland, I stand with those that are positive about birth control, but against abortion. Sure, it isn't bad to control the reproduction process, but it's not good to stop it when an embryo is already present.

anything below 13 is child 2 me

Funny, because I'm just a few years above.

Actually yeah I was. Just vaguely considering in the future.

I think it's reasonable to have kids at the age 20+. Really, I dont care what age just as long as it reasonable and the parents are acting like parents.

How old do you think is the correct age to be considering children. Under what circumstances do you feel people should reproduce? How many kids is too many?

Taking into account the second question, I'll skip the first one. The circumstances are, I think, what matters, not the age. If you have a stable job, a good home and, but not mandatory, a strong relationship with a partnet, you should have a child, if you want to; I don't necessarily think there are right or wrong ages but, personally, I would hate to be one of those 50 year old dudes with a 6 year old kid. I think three is already too many. I only have one brother and I would kill to be an only child (I realize that sounds wrong but it's just a joke).

2 kid rule in China? Thoughts?

Necessary. And if life expectancy keeps rising, as it most likely will, it will be necessary in other countries as well.

At what point in a relationship or marriage do you begin to address the subject of children with your partner?

If you are an independent adult, I'd say the early stages, otherwise you may end up spending/wasting a good chunk of your life with a partner who doesn't want what you want. In the wild life, that would be the most retarded thing you could do. And people say we're the most intelligent...

Birth control and abortion? Do you currently use birth control, your thoughts on it? Your stance on abortion.

Birth control, yes; abortion, yes. I don't use birth control because my hand has no uterus. My stance on abortion, as I've mentioned, is a supportive one. Richard Dawkins has written on this and he says an embryo at the first weeks of development has no more «life» than a nail or a piece of skin. And even if that were not the case, I think it is entirely authoritarian that anyone would pass a law demanding women that they behave a certain way for nine months of their life. I don't see the logic in the argument: You had sex. You got pregnant. Therefore, we can tell you what to do and what not to do with your body.