Legalizing Marijuana in California (Proposition 19)

Racist much?

Considering I'm an American citizen living in America ,and stay up to date with current events ? No , I'm a realist ,and if you don't agree that's fantastic , but please..prove me wrong

There is something about the way it is worded that has some of the pro-pot groups against it. i haven't looked it up because i'm also too lazy. i been smoking weed for near 20yrs now, and the legality has made little diference to me thus far. wheather it passes or not, i'll still smoke.

I've known a few stoners in my life.

Each and every one of them, besides typically being a useless turd, sort of...tripled how much of a useless turd they naturally were when they got high.

I'm against legalizing it. If I have to smell potheads in public on the subway or any other such environment, I'm going to start pushing people onto the tracks or down the elevator shaft.

And, I get that weed is naturally less harmful, chemically, then most other drugs, legal or not.

I just don't approve of something whose primary use is to slow down your ability to reason. The world has enough natural fucktards. No need to pad the figure.

As long as we can keep it organized in society and put in proper danger labels on the product there is no good enough reason not to.

Quiet a few of our greatest writers and poets were high. We also always tend to think like everyone that smokes it, constantly does so and can no way be productive in society; yes there are people like that but just as much as we have drunks.

I personally would never use it, but I think others have a right to do it if they wish so.

SD is 200% shit, don't worry about it.



Taxing it would be great, and could reduce dealing-related crimes.
Not keeping with ~5-10mph could cause problems anyways.
While most other mind/behavior altering drugs are kept under lock and key, they are still legal.
Marijuana finds it's way into kids' hands anyways, I don't think that's going to change.



I don't think it's unrealistic, as it is a hot topic, with people on both sides wanting the votes to swing their way.

I think it would be a fantastic idea to legalize it. The laws surrounding marijuana are bullshit, and I think sellers/users who were fined/jailed for it in the past should be retroactively compensated.

Edit: If they weren't violent offenses.

Kalistean, that is the most apt avatar I've seen for you yet.

Tobacco smells like over 9000 times worse. So, do you push tobacco smokers onto the tracks or down the elevator shaft too? Or do you actually like that awful smell?

imo weed = one of the best smelling things in the world, no matter what the strain is.

Also, no need to be so aggressive.

I rather smoke pot then tabacco any time. It's less harmful.

you might as well, being illegal never stopped anybody from smoking it(myself included).

I find find no logical reason to keep it illegal. It is no more harmful than aclohol or cigarettes and it would reduce crime

the reason(i think) it's still illeagal is because it's more impressive when the DEA bust an average sized shippment of weed than an average sized shippment of anything else. weed has so much more volume than other drugs, it looks better for photo op's to stand in front of $50k worth of weed than $1 million worth of cocaine or heroine.

also, it's the only drug that can be tested for(cheaply) well after it was ingested.

If it was legalized we would be able to better control it's usage. There really isn't any question about that. I'm going to University, I smoke pot and I'm still ending up at the top of my class each semester, my friend Patrick also smokes pot and his college placed sixth for this years regional ACM competition. Which is a hell of a lot better than last year, which was last. My dealer is also a hard-working intelligent individual and yes, we all smoke pot daily.

Most people who smoke marijuana smoke it only occasionally. A small minority of Americans - less than 1 percent - smoke marijuana on a daily basis. An even smaller minority develop a dependence on marijuana. Some people who smoke marijuana heavily and frequently stop without difficulty. Others seek help from drug treatment professionals. Marijuana does not cause physical dependence. If people experience withdrawal symptoms at all, they are remarkably mild. There is no convincing scientific evidence that marijuana causes psychological damage or mental illness in either teenagers or adults. Marijuana does not cause profound changes in people's behavior. If they are a useless bum smoking marijuana would not triple their uselessness. Perhaps you should stop basing your opinion on such a small amount of people. I've met many, many, many marijuana smokers in my lifetime, the majority of them still benefit society and smoke marijuana as a social activity or for stress relief. Whether you smoke marijuana daily or occasionally, it may slow your reaction time, but certainly not as much as the effects of alcohol would.

We don't smoke marijuana because it slows our reaction time, we smoke it because it mimics feel good chemicals inside of our brain, is calming and relieves stress and has an enormous amount of medical purposes.

Sources:

United States. Dept. of Health and Human Services. DASIS Report Series, Differences in Marijuana Admissions Based on Source of Referral. 2002. June 24 2005.

Johnson, L.D., et al. “National Survey Results on Drug Use from the Monitoring the Future Study, 1975-1994, Volume II: College Students and Young Adults.” Rockville, MD: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 1996.

Kandel, D.B., et al. “Prevalence and demographic correlates of symptoms of dependence on cigarettes, alcohol, marijuana and cocaine in the U.S. population.” Drug and Alcohol Dependence 44 (1997):11-29.

Stephens, R.S., et al. “Adult marijuana users seeking treatment.” Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology 61 (1993): 1100-1104.


Unrelated: Moderate smoking of marijuana appears to pose minimal danger to the lungs. Like tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke contains a number of irritants and carcinogens. But marijuana users typically smoke much less often than tobacco smokers, and over time, inhale much less smoke. As a result, the risk of serious lung damage should be lower in marijuana smokers. There have been no reports of lung cancer related solely to marijuana, and in a large study presented to the American Thoracic Society in 2006, even heavy users of smoked marijuana were found not to have any increased risk of lung cancer. Unlike heavy tobacco smokers, heavy marijuana smokers exhibit no obstruction of the lung's small airway. That indicates that people will not develop emphysema from smoking marijuana.

Purely my opinion here and no facts or research done on my part this is just my views.

I am partially towards legalizing it, mainly because California needs the money of course if I was a Marijuana user I'd probably be against the thought of having to pay tax/money for usage/purchasing it.

While another view I see is that perhaps more crime would arise?? I don't know, I don't particularly live in a high crime/drug area of California so I wouldn't know, ignorance is bliss. But if there's more money going into the state and more crime, money can be put into increasing law enforcement?? I don't know again just my thoughts.

Fortunately I am not a registered voter, why? Because I honestly see that I am not well educated enough nor responsible enough to vote and support my views fully and accept the outcomes. So no need to quote me and prove to me why I am wrong, because it won't make me change my non-existent vote. But, if you fell the need to go ahead.

I say legalize, the positive consequences outweigh the bad ones in this scenario, mostly due to the economic factor, and the fact that police can now stop peddling with small-time cannabis dealers and move on to deal with real crimes.

Now I might not be a US citizen, but I've followed this quite closely, since this will have impact here. (Sweden) We had a proposition about a year ago that didn't really get any attention, politicans pushed it aside with a "Hmpf, fucking potheads, now let's indulge ourselves in alcohol instead". But if this goes through in California, and the outcome is positive (As it most likely will be) then this will have a chance here.

After all, if it can give a good steady income most politicians won't disregard it.

It is loooong overdue. Cali will be the first to break the ice, allowing surounding states to observe the lack of negative effects. In time, other intellectually based states(Oregon) will follow suit.

There is absolutely NO REASON for it to be banned that cannot be outweighed by the benefits of it being legalize: let alone decriminalized.

The biggest complaint against it I hear is how there will be people smoking it all over. Which even I can agree, if taken to the extreme cigarettes once were. However, with all the anti-smoking propaganda, how would pot suddenly slip by?


No, no, no- that is simply thinking too small! Marijuhana is a plant of unbelievable potential. Simply 'smoking' is the tip of the iceberg here.

Everyone knows about Magic(Pot) Brownies. Well what about Cannabis Coffee Cake? Or how about a snickers bar with added THC?
Don't feel like eating? Well how about some Marijuana Tea? Or perhaps a popular brand of Soda that has extracted, and implemented THC into it's formula?
All of these things are currently a reality, and sold underground.
(Here you can find some quite amusing pictures of a drug bust by the DEA)

You can put it in almost anything. So no, my friends. There will not be hordes of people smoking it everywhere, tainting our wonderful air. There will be an entirely new industry.
That alone has huge benefits, especially in troubled economic times like this. But that's simply going into another one of the many benefits from the full decriminalization of pot.


Needless to say, I'm excited to see what will happen.

In my personal and professional opinion, if we legalize certain substances then not only can we maintain it better through taxing it, but we could also cut down on certain crimes. Think of it this way, what happened when they made alcohol illegal. In comes the Mafia shooting up everybody in broad day light, selling moonshine and all sorts of other things. Sure you wouldn't eliminate crime all together but it makes little sense to have all these "gangsters" selling dope and shooting eachother for control of certain places to sell this garbage when you could just walk into any tobacco store and buy the same stuff without the gun pointed at your head. I just think that they worry too much about it being hazardous to your health, everything is a hazard and atleast marijuana has safer ways of smoking than cigarettes do. But that's just my opinion.

Well I can't smoke my stuff unless i have my med card... i do have one.

As someone who is for prop 19. and the things that have already been mentioned such as additional goverment revinew via taxing of marijuana. i will add further insight.

First and foremost. how many people have you ever heard of who have gotten stoned and been involved in violent crimes, almost none unless money is involved. now the same question with alcohol.. well violence and alcohol go hand in hand.

D.E.A. Would be able to focus more effort and funding on substances that need to be removed from society.


it does not matter weather it is legal or not... its still going to be out there. its just a matter of knowing the right people

btw ... It failed to pass.

(Edit)You don't have to neg rep me for telling how it turned out T.T


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