GroverCleaveland wrote...
First things first: This thread will be working under the assumption that there is civilized life on a planet other than earth. We already have
substantial evidence that there is life on other planets, so let us assume that somewhere, it has evolved to a point similar to or beyond our own.
Here is the question of this discussion:
Would it be a good idea to make contact with this life if we found it?
I like this question, but it rises another one for me, how would the contact be made? I'm not talking about the technical obstacles, but about the way it will happen. We are used to try and communicate, with diplomacy usually, before taking any action. What if we are in the very appareciated by sci-fi writers and hollywood directors scenario of an invasion? We would react in a defensive way, obviously, and that wouldn't be great for any of the species. Moreover, if we're unable to communicate, how would we communicate? We would be very defiant of a race we don't understand, even if they do have a type of language in any form close to our ways of communication.
Think about it for a second. Our species is a real shitstorm. We are a highly xenophobic species, and hate others for something as stupid as their superficial differences from us, we go to war over such ridiculous things as religions, we are terrible, terrible people. [only for the most part, I'm not saying that this applies to everyone]
Or maybe the perspective in this video is right, and that to survive for so long a species must evolve to a point beyond our current idiocy, and by the time we are ready to find and make contact with other life we will be past all of this nonsense.
I think we are a bit past this point. Maybe I'm too optimistic, but I think in general, occidental/northern organizations or States are all very aware that we are clever enough not to go to war for such a reason. I'm not saying other reasons are good, but regarding a possible contact with extra terrestrial species, we should be able not to brainlessly attack them.
However, I agree that there will be a renew in every xenophobic,hardcore religious beliefs movements, and humanity will fall once again in the dark ages of global intolerance. Not that it's not the case right now, but less.
What if the life on another planet was similar? Could we live in peace? Doubtful.
That would depend on how similar they are. Surely if they are humanoids, with a language we could hope to learn, or vice versa, it will help. If they are anything close to what mother nature provides on earth, we will probably be able to at least study them, and maybe understand them. If they are however, different beyond imagination, communicate through ways we have no physical or understanding ways to reach, well, we're fucked.
[quote] Our planet's history is filled with horrible sections of one people entering a new land and completely ruining the culture and life of the inhabitants simply because one group thought they were superior to the other. And what if our species was the inferior one? Look at the differences in the level of technological development just among the countries of our planet, and what if the life in the other planet had existed for hundreds of years longer? Would they try to "improve" our less developed existence through colonization? Could we stop them?
We can only hope that if they are so technologically advanced, and have existed for hundreds of years longer, they reached the point where they got tired tired of colonization, they are a wise peaceful people that has reached ultimate happiness and wishes the same for us. But the ways those little bacterias evolve into, and the "what" they are, and "how" they do are all the mystery. Some theories are that, with the way nature works, if the environment is more or less the same as on Earth (water, warmth, oxygen blah blah the whole deal), if the conditions are reunited, we would be facing a species close to ours, if not humanoid, at least primate-like.
Wouldn't that make things easier?
I have no real answer, there are too many variables to consider to make a defining claim. But I want one thing clear: I do support space expansion. I support it with vigor as a necessity to our survival in the universe in the future, I am simply wondering about the specific problem of contact with another species. SO PLEASE stay on topic.
Any ideas?
I support space expansion too, but I doubt we will achieve that with the way our technology is going. We won't have enough energy, whatever renewable or not source we use, it will not be enough. So in the best scenario case, the other species has the most advanced technology, and they are willing to help us live on other planets. Or we find a new energy that is renewable, very powerful and non polluant. :D
I wish I could be there to see it. I think it would be like an ultimate test for humanity, and maybe tell us if we really are some sort of monsters incapable of accepting difference, or if this is just the mental construction of society, a group phenomenon that could disappear if the group itself was open-minded.