New Orleans Gun Confiscation

Compass and Nagin need jailtime now!



Following Katrina in New Orleans, National Guardsmen and New Orleans police went house to house confiscating people's firearms, brutalizing innocents, and now even after court orders to give them back, Nagin's proudly giving us the finger. (read sidebar of YT vid for details)

What to do?

In all honesty I did not know about this. I don't even remember catching this on the news...

I was horrified at the force the police used on the old woman, tackling her? I suppose in the police man defense it's protocol to tackle people who pose a threat to themselves and others. If she'd a pulled out that gun at a distance from the police officers she probably would have been shot.

Judging by the video it looks like she didn't even have her finger on the trigger...I'm no lawyer, but damn this is obviously a violation of the 2nd amendment.

Also who are Compass and Nagin?

Eddie Compass Chief of Police in New Orleans

Ray Nagin Mayor** of New Orleans


This is a gross abuse of power on the side of the Government. This is obviously unconstitutional even to people only vaguely familiar with the U.S. Constitution. It violates the second and fourth amendments. The police had no warrants and probable cause couldn't be determined under the circumstances. Even if they somehow had warrants, they must specifically say who and what is to be searched and what the police as looking for. Taking all the guns from legal citizens of the United States isn't narrow enough in scope for a legal warrant to have been issued.

Makes me wonder why people trust the government & police so much when they clearly don't give a damn about the laws they are charged with enforcing.

**Ray Nagin is partially responsible for the disaster from Katrina as he hesitated to order an evacuation from the city until just 24hrs before landfall and he had buses that could have been used to evacuate that 130,000 people without cars from the city.

Link.

Wow, pretty shocking since people have a right to fire arms.

Surprised this hasn't been on the news, but of course a lot of important news hasn't been broadcasted by the media lately...



Makes me wonder even further why the people want to give them even more power while seeing this kind of abuse of power...

Bumpy I guess. This needs alot more attention.

At least we got something out of the debacle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disaster_Recovery_Personal_Protection_Act

Dude I'm from Louisiana and Ray Nagin is the biggest dumbfuck in the world. He is imo a racist (he wants New Orleans to be a "chocolate city" and thinks a black mayor should only have "brothers as advisors"). Plus, I remember during the hurricane that he, governer blanco at the time (who resigned this past election or else the state was seriously thinking about sending her to court/jail for the katrina fiasco), and sentor Mary Landreu where on Tv multiple times saying "don't worry everything is under control. We don't need to call in the national guard or the federal government's help." I can CLEARLY remember the three of them dodging questions (the senator later said her mic wasn't working and couldn't hear the questions - despite answering one question directly in her interview.)

I think they thought that by refusing help from the government, these democrats (all three are democrats) could get some points with the mostly conservative (republican) state of louisiana - most of which are anti-federal government.
Bush got most of the blame, and FEMA (who I saw doing a great job and bending the rules in order to save lives) is now a negatively viewed agency. But honestly, I believe we as Louisianans failed ourselves and got ourselves in this mess, and are still screwing it up today. It is our fault for the pathetic job we did during that crisis - but in the eyes of the rest of the nation we are victims and Bush is the culprit.

This is just another example. We let Ray Nagin have power even thought everyone hates him because, and I can't prove this but, I think nobody goes out to vote because everyone assumes he is going to win anyways since he is a black mayor running in a predominatly black city.

The only hope for redemption my state has is in Bobby Jindal. Unfortunately the rest of the nation thinks he is a dork after his speech following barrack obama's a few months back.

"Bobby, Americans can do anything"
Jon Stewart had a field day with him on the Daily Show.

Class action lawsuit sounds like a good idea.

I think this already happened. The courts are taking forever though, that is the problem.

Why exactly did they take them away? No real reason to take them away other than unconstitutional bastards who need to go eat a dick.

Frankly I hate most gun laws, all they do is help promote crime. I don't have much to say on the matter other than it's wrong and needs to be stopped completely (that bills a good start), other than that nothing more needs to be said.

Actually I'll thrown this obvious one in.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"

Sounds like someone cracked under the pressure of crime and decided to just solve problems the tthoughtless way: confiscate all of the guns everywhere. How stupid to not put any thought behind a governing action.

This is a perfect example on the paper I'm writing for my Political Science class. Thanks for bringing this up. I can't use videos, but interesting nonetheless.

The way this Gov. Nagin is acting, is eerily similar to what happened in the Little Rock Nine incident. I doubt the outcome will be the same, unfortunately, someone else will have to step in.

sorry for bad quality


As you can see this is why fire arms are illegal in the US. Also did this occur in one area, by one group of cops or is this a spread out incident all over Southern USA?

Uhhuh?
Sarcasm or serious with that bold-ed phrase?

And it was just New Orleans, it was highly illegal, and there is now law on the books preventing it from happening again.

Sarcasm... :-D

I know that this will be highly unpopular but the fact that they were confiscating guns was in fact a good thing. Violence and crime was going out of control in New Orleans right after Katrina and martial law was sort of enacted de facto through a State of Emergency. So under these circumstances your gun can be confiscated and later reissued after the crisis is cleared up.

Now how they went about it was mostly wrong. They should have given out receipts for the confiscated fire arms for retrieval at a later date. New Orleans was not in such a bad state that they could not do that.

And on the old woman, even with the camera men there you have no idea what she might do when she pulled that gun out. And in a city that went mad like New Orleans did you really cannot even trust old ladies. Why just look at this documentary on what happened when the brits ignored their growing problem of malcontent senior citizens!

So I take it you were paying no attention to how she was holding it? and if it was such a good idea, then why was there a near-unanimous, bipartisan passing of the above mentioned law preventing it from happening again? And I should remind you, NOPD is one of the most corrupt LE agencies in the US, plus NOPD LEOs were actually participating in the looting themselves.