New UK law on the 1st of April
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So I hope I'm not the only UK user here. Have you guys heard of this? It will mean we will need to pay the government £4.99 per device or scan in our drivers licence/passport to be able to access adult sites. However the government have also stated that if sites don't comply with this law they will be banned for viewing in the UK.
(To pay we would need to go into a store and purchase a "porn pass")
I guess a VPN will be the answer until the goverment ban them too.
Are you guys at all concerned about this?
(To pay we would need to go into a store and purchase a "porn pass")
I guess a VPN will be the answer until the goverment ban them too.
Are you guys at all concerned about this?
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
Same with the Japanese but they can get over the niponese wall of dirty parts. Not on this site but on a different site which I'm a mod (not a hentai site but we do have hentai) the English mod just said they can't block him, but he has like Mr hacker level proxy and VPN capability.
I'm sure nordvpn or even a free proxy can get over the great nigel wall. I mean I know the commonwealth citizens have loli on there computers.
I'm sure nordvpn or even a free proxy can get over the great nigel wall. I mean I know the commonwealth citizens have loli on there computers.
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benthehobo
The Poor Fool
Well shit, If paying the shipping wasn't enough now this is going to be a thing.
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Gravity cat
the adequately amused
It was supposed to be "at the beginning of April", but PornHub is still accessible to me in its entirety. Looks like it's been pushed back again.
According to Google this was written up 4th of April 2019 that seems to indicate that it keeps getting pushed back because nobody's talking to each other and there's privacy concerns over such a scheme. It also keeps adding fuel to the "OI MATE YOU GOT A LOICENSE FO' DAT [name of thing here]" memes we've become associated with.
The website makes some good points about how barely anyone knows about this bill, how it was passed with very little fanfare, and how nobody is fucking talking about it. The fact that it's been passed quietly so as to avoid the backlash and trying to impose an anti-porn block nobody asked for under the pretense that it's "protecting children" is pretty worrying. I don't see what they perceive to be so damaging about porn that it warrants policing the entire populace over whether they're 18, when the legal age to have sex is 16. Teenagers are horny buggers and are going to be curious about sex long before they're 18, and I'd rather my kid whack off to porn than be sexually surpressed by a government that's out of touch with its people. There are bigger things to worry about than the Golden Shower GILF porn Little Timmy likes to watch, and parental blocks are a thing. So using the protection of children as a justification for pushing this agenda is utter horseshit, and is not good enough.
According to Google this was written up 4th of April 2019 that seems to indicate that it keeps getting pushed back because nobody's talking to each other and there's privacy concerns over such a scheme. It also keeps adding fuel to the "OI MATE YOU GOT A LOICENSE FO' DAT [name of thing here]" memes we've become associated with.
The website makes some good points about how barely anyone knows about this bill, how it was passed with very little fanfare, and how nobody is fucking talking about it. The fact that it's been passed quietly so as to avoid the backlash and trying to impose an anti-porn block nobody asked for under the pretense that it's "protecting children" is pretty worrying. I don't see what they perceive to be so damaging about porn that it warrants policing the entire populace over whether they're 18, when the legal age to have sex is 16. Teenagers are horny buggers and are going to be curious about sex long before they're 18, and I'd rather my kid whack off to porn than be sexually surpressed by a government that's out of touch with its people. There are bigger things to worry about than the Golden Shower GILF porn Little Timmy likes to watch, and parental blocks are a thing. So using the protection of children as a justification for pushing this agenda is utter horseshit, and is not good enough.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
A cool video why it won't work nor should be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCM6Uq7CAnU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCM6Uq7CAnU
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The reason it has gotten through completely undetected is because Brexit conveniently happens at the same time. Yet even that is a farce if I am completely honest. I don't see why the government feels the need to police the internet in such a way that could and will at some point cause major security breaches. The UK government aren't even the ones doing this. It is MindGeek. The owner of the 3 top porn sites in the world.
The sad thing is. This to me isn't about protecting children. If it was the government would put in place punishments for parents That don't keep age related stuff away from there kids. There are safety measures built into most computers and browsers and even phones and hand held devices. But rather than make the parent responsible for not keeping an eye on what there kid looks at online lets police EVERYONE.
I feel this is just a small step and a hard one to argue if you are in government as they have used the "to protect children" argument to prevent people fighting against this. "I feel this is not going to work and is wrong to police the whole country" and the people for it will reply "oh so you are fine with kids viewing porn online" and they look like the bad guys.
When I was 14 I looked at porn as does most if not all males at that age (with some varying degrees of age) But I simply told my dad and my mother what was what and funnily enough they understood. Talking about this stuff shouldn't be hard. It is normal.
The law is now moved to July 15th as they haven't found a suitable solution yet.
VPN's are a thing and I can see them getting banned soon as the government will see this as an illegal tool to access sites they don't want.
I only hope that Fakku have looked into this and have something in place to help out the UK people on this site.
The sad thing is. This to me isn't about protecting children. If it was the government would put in place punishments for parents That don't keep age related stuff away from there kids. There are safety measures built into most computers and browsers and even phones and hand held devices. But rather than make the parent responsible for not keeping an eye on what there kid looks at online lets police EVERYONE.
I feel this is just a small step and a hard one to argue if you are in government as they have used the "to protect children" argument to prevent people fighting against this. "I feel this is not going to work and is wrong to police the whole country" and the people for it will reply "oh so you are fine with kids viewing porn online" and they look like the bad guys.
When I was 14 I looked at porn as does most if not all males at that age (with some varying degrees of age) But I simply told my dad and my mother what was what and funnily enough they understood. Talking about this stuff shouldn't be hard. It is normal.
The law is now moved to July 15th as they haven't found a suitable solution yet.
VPN's are a thing and I can see them getting banned soon as the government will see this as an illegal tool to access sites they don't want.
I only hope that Fakku have looked into this and have something in place to help out the UK people on this site.
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Gravity cat
the adequately amused
What seems backwards to me is that MindGeek owns those pornsites, but are actively working to make their websites inaccessible to all british citizens that don't verify their age. Something seems off about that. Why would they discriminate against a large portion of their viewerbase? They'd be shooting themselves themselves in the foot.
The only reason I can think of for them to agree to it is if they were being paid for doing so. And it'd probably have to be an amount substantial enough to make up for the loss in viewership. That'd be a colossal waste of taxpayer money. Either that or they own a bunch of VPNs themselves and fully expect people to start using them, so they profit from it regardless.
Assuming I'm right about any of this, everybody in this whole debacle benefits except those who actually use the service. MindGeek get paid, the Government potentially get info on its citizens and could request any submitted information from MindGeek for whatever reason. Both MindGeek and the Government would deny ever intending to do so because they have to, but you know it'll happen whether it be by them or a hack/leak. I wouldn't trust them with my anal excrement.
But this is a waste of time because you start slapping the verification on more popular pornsites and they won't be as popular anymore. And you can't slap it on every website in existence. It'd force people to go elsewhere for their porn where they would potentially be exposed to shit they wouldn't be normally. A great way to protect children, force them to take to dodgy pornsites that don't have age verification where they corrupt themselves where they wouldn't normally. Potentially causing a generation of mentally ill that they claim to try to prevent. A well thought out and brilliant idea.
The British government banned certain sex acts in British-made porn in 2014, and have been trying to censor the internet for years. It's nothing new, but this has gone unnoticed, are using a bullshit justification that'll resonate with some people, and are actively trying to make it work.
The only reason I can think of for them to agree to it is if they were being paid for doing so. And it'd probably have to be an amount substantial enough to make up for the loss in viewership. That'd be a colossal waste of taxpayer money. Either that or they own a bunch of VPNs themselves and fully expect people to start using them, so they profit from it regardless.
Assuming I'm right about any of this, everybody in this whole debacle benefits except those who actually use the service. MindGeek get paid, the Government potentially get info on its citizens and could request any submitted information from MindGeek for whatever reason. Both MindGeek and the Government would deny ever intending to do so because they have to, but you know it'll happen whether it be by them or a hack/leak. I wouldn't trust them with my anal excrement.
But this is a waste of time because you start slapping the verification on more popular pornsites and they won't be as popular anymore. And you can't slap it on every website in existence. It'd force people to go elsewhere for their porn where they would potentially be exposed to shit they wouldn't be normally. A great way to protect children, force them to take to dodgy pornsites that don't have age verification where they corrupt themselves where they wouldn't normally. Potentially causing a generation of mentally ill that they claim to try to prevent. A well thought out and brilliant idea.
The British government banned certain sex acts in British-made porn in 2014, and have been trying to censor the internet for years. It's nothing new, but this has gone unnoticed, are using a bullshit justification that'll resonate with some people, and are actively trying to make it work.
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What Mindgeek will get out of this is that they will sell to the other porn sites they didn’t own meaning tha5 places like fakku and independent porn creators will need to pay a substantial price to make sure there site is available. Hopefully when it goes to the House of Lords it won’t pass for the reasons everyone’s been pointing out. We can only hope. Either that or it will keep getting pushed back like brexit cause the government can’t seem to tie its own shoes anymore
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UK legislation is getting out of control and the US isn't much better. I never understood why people are so sensitive to sex in creative expression. Murder is fine, but a scene with non-consensual sex makes people's heads explode.
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Gravity cat
the adequately amused
murikajin wrote...
UK legislation is getting out of control and the US isn't much better. I never understood why people are so sensitive to sex in creative expression. Murder is fine, but a scene with non-consensual sex makes people's heads explode.I'm basing this off nothing at all but I feel like that those who pushed for this law came from a strict upbringing that dictates that you must always "hide your shame". This same upbringing also probably made the sexual side of human nature taboo to discuss. What we're taught as kids often carries on into adulthood, and can surface as surpressed desires or being completely anal about anything sexual.
People have their own opinions on the openess to discuss and enjoy sex but the problem starts when they push their mindset as law. Not everyone agrees or asked for their opinion, but they're in a position to try and push for something for their ideals whether we like it or not. The difference is can enough people tell them to fuck off to reconsider?
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Gravity cat wrote...
murikajin wrote...
UK legislation is getting out of control and the US isn't much better. I never understood why people are so sensitive to sex in creative expression. Murder is fine, but a scene with non-consensual sex makes people's heads explode.I'm basing this off nothing at all but I feel like that those who pushed for this law came from a strict upbringing that dictates that you must always "hide your shame". This same upbringing also probably made the sexual side of human nature taboo to discuss. What we're taught as kids often carries on into adulthood, and can surface as surpressed desires or being completely anal about anything sexual.
People have their own opinions on the openess to discuss and enjoy sex but the problem starts when they push their mindset as law. Not everyone agrees or asked for their opinion, but they're in a position to try and push for something for their ideals whether we like it or not. The difference is can enough people tell them to fuck off to reconsider?
I believe you are right. Sadly, it doesn't seem like many people want to say anything against these new laws. In all the research I have done on the restrictions to freedom of speech I've found very little opposition or movement to repeal existing freedom of speech restrictions. This is true even within the hentai community.
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June 1st is now the new date for this.
Also all you gotta do is register that you're over 18 from what I read. No charges.
Also all you gotta do is register that you're over 18 from what I read. No charges.
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Gravity cat
the adequately amused
Dr Shaneman wrote...
June 1st is now the new date for this.Also all you gotta do is register that you're over 18 from what I read. No charges.
You're correct there's no money involved, however last I knew there's concerns over privacy. You have to give real-life personal details to a third party company for the right to view porn. And if that passes here, it'll get passed everywhere else. But people don't want to give out their personal details over something as benign as viewing porn online, especially during the age of information where it's so easy to access login information to personal online accounts, especially with things like online banking. People understandably want their privacy respected, and giving out your details to a third party company is basically handing them your identity and telling them that you watch porn. Something I personally feel that they don't have the right to know. So you can probably see the issue.
We already have to register a real life house address to an account on BBC iPlayer because they only want people with TV Licenses using it. I feel that the only reason they did that is to encourage more people to pay for a TV License. People are becoming more aware that there's better mediums than the BBC so there's no reason to pay a TV License if there's better content elsewhere, especially if it's a single payment for unlimited use, or a subscription service that doesn't threaten you with jail and a fine, because unlike a TV License it doesn't think it has the legal right to be a necessary yearly expense to enjoy anything.
Spoiler:
But, I digress.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
Gravity cat wrote...
Dr Shaneman wrote...
June 1st is now the new date for this.Also all you gotta do is register that you're over 18 from what I read. No charges.
You're correct there's no money involved, however last I knew there's concerns over privacy. You have to give real-life personal details to a third party company for the right to view porn. And if that passes here, it'll get passed everywhere else. But people don't want to give out their personal details over something as benign as viewing porn online, especially during the age of information where it's so easy to access login information to personal online accounts, especially with things like online banking. People understandably want their privacy respected, and giving out your details to a third party company is basically handing them your identity and telling them that you watch porn. Something I personally feel that they don't have the right to know. So you can probably see the issue.
We already have to register a real life house address to an account on BBC iPlayer because they only want people with TV Licenses using it. I feel that the only reason they did that is to encourage more people to pay for a TV License. People are becoming more aware that there's better mediums than the BBC so there's no reason to pay a TV License if there's better content elsewhere, especially if it's a single payment for unlimited use, or a subscription service that doesn't threaten you with jail and a fine, because it doesn't think it has the legal right to be a necessary yearly expense to enjoy any entertainment in existence.
Spoiler:
But, I digress.
UK PASS card, driver license, passport or credit card from a video i watched i think.
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Gravity cat
the adequately amused
animefreak_usa wrote...
UK PASS card, driver license, passport or credit card from a video i watched i think.That's the one.
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Gravity cat wrote...
You're correct there's no money involved, however last I knew there's concerns over privacy. You have to give real-life personal details to a third party company for the right to view porn. And if that passes here, it'll get passed everywhere else. But people don't want to give out their personal details over something as benign as viewing porn online, especially during the age of information where it's so easy to access login information to personal online accounts, especially with things like online banking. People understandably want their privacy respected, and giving out your details to a third party company is basically handing them your identity and telling them that you watch porn. Something I personally feel that they don't have the right to know. So you can probably see the issue.We already have to register a real life house address to an account on BBC iPlayer because they only want people with TV Licenses using it. I feel that the only reason they did that is to encourage more people to pay for a TV License. People are becoming more aware that there's better mediums than the BBC so there's no reason to pay a TV License if there's better content elsewhere, especially if it's a single payment for unlimited use, or a subscription service that doesn't threaten you with jail and a fine, because unlike a TV License it doesn't think it has the legal right to be a necessary yearly expense to enjoy anything.
Spoiler:
But, I digress.
Yeah, it is a poor decision when thinking of how much data is stolen online currently. Especially if it does pass in other countries too.
Not like we'll have much choice though.
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luinthoron
High Priest of Loli
Gravity cat wrote...
Spoiler:
Black and white? In what century is this country living...?
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luinthoron wrote...
Black and white? In what century is this country living...?If you really wanted to half your bill, I guess.
I don't know anyone who does it though.
