realisationinme wrote...
FK I'm talking to a retard
That's not nice :P
i can tell you the main reason why very few people partake in this kind of crime. Most man do not wish to sacrifice 5 years of their life not being able to marry for 5 grand usd approximately and it is extremely dangerous for the middleman to arrange this kind of deal as few would agree(People that disagree could very well report the middleman to the police).Now imagine if polygamy is allowed, the market for this kind of dealings will skyrock, now the man/woman can get 5 grand for no effort at all and there is very little risk involve since the government cannot possible track every immigrant marriage and check it's authenticity.
Again, even if polygamy isn't allowed, this argument still applies to the current standings of marriage. If you have a problem with IMMIGRATION laws in the country, then fine, but that's what you're addressing, not polygamy.
In the united stats the sex ratio is currently 97 males to 100 females 2011. At birth the ratio is 105 males to 100 females. YES this means that there are more males then females born for every year since the year 1980s
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2018.html
...k...still doesn't mean anything. Also, sex and birth ratios aren't flat...they change. So I don't even see your point here.
By allowing polygamy rich people will always have the sign above them;I'M FKING AVAILABLE. And i dare say they will get more lovers and more wives than they are getting now. This essentially means there will be more sexually and emotionally frustrated people who are also under education and unemployed or lowly employed and millions of these kind of people do great things; remember Greece? Remember the i am the 99% protests? The Arab dawn? All these are the result of frustration and and i can tell you the riots are not pretty nor are they productive to your country's economy and international image.
Ok, you STILL don't understand all the levels that this argument fails. so let me make a few points.
1. Rich people already hold giant signs over their heads saying "IM FKIN AVAILIABLE!" Letting them marry all the girls they hook up with doesn't really change the situation whatsoever.
2. Did you seriously just compare lack of availiable sex to economic collapse?
3. Even if it were the scase that the rich were taking everyone to marry...that includes the 99% that would be doing the protests, so it's a complete non issue.
Dude I said amoral not immoral, English might not be my first language but i am certain my English is not that bad, let me bring out a dictionary for you.
amoral†‚[ey-mawr-uhl, a-mawr-, ey-mor-, a-mor-]
adjective-not involving questions of right or wrong; without moral quality; neither moral nor immoral.
Oh, so your argument was just COMPLETELY non-issue related, as you were simply saying, "It doesn't lead to anything bad or good...I'm just sayin."
Issues like polygamy, incest, adultery orgies are all amoral issues meaning they are neither right or wrong but are generally frowned upon by the general public (unless you are living in a cave).Polygamy justifies adultery because there will be no such thing as adultery; Sex is not uncommon during dating and dating after you are married well that's what polygamy is about isn't it.
Two more points.
1. "They're neither right or wrong but are generally frowned upon by the general public(unless you're living in a cave) The question to address is WHY? If they're frowned upon, then there are reasons, right? What are those reasons? Are they good reasons? If they're not, then why the fuck should anyone frown upon them? These are things to address, as if you DON'T, then you're not really making a point, you're just saying words.
2. Adultery is having sex OUTSIDE of a marrtiage. Polygamy is multiple partner marriage. So...there's STILL marriage...which means there's still quite such a thing as adultery. The thing is, when people engage in polgyamy, they also engage in polyamory(not always, but let's presume the people involved aren't religious crazy people) Which literally says, "I am going to be married to this group of people, and none of us will have sex with anyone but eachother." So...your point is invalid. :)
Marriage is suppose to change your social status meaning you move from single and available to married and unavailable. Polygamy effectively negates the change and therefore nullify the need for marriage. I say it cheapens marriage because it defeats the entire purpose of marriage something which gay marriage does not do.
Again, two more points.
1. To your first sentence, you're factually incorrect, as as I said above, the polygamy that goes with polyamory leads to people being married...and unavailiable.
2. What exactly is the purpose of marriage? If it's just that social status thing...then your point is moot here as well, as polygamy doesn't inherently negate that at all.
There is no problem with men and women seducing each other just now men and women can seduce married man/women or worst married man/woman seducing other married man/woman. This is a spiral of amorality that essentially destroys the institution of marriage as marriage loses it's purpose.
Again, wtf is marriage's purpose, for one, and again, none of that is at all inherently true. again, learn what polyamory is. You seem to have this idea that polygamy is just everyone fucking everyone. This...isn't true. It's called polygamy because it IS marriage. Because it DOES construct an institution. and it's not permission for married people to seduce other married people.
You're thinking about Swingers...not polygamy.
No act will become law unless a politician lobbies and stand as the face of the movement and ultimately gain approval from congress. What i'm saying is this even in a extremely pro-choice forum like this adult site forum you poll shows that people barely supports polygamy, well good luck in trying to make it anything more then a fantasy.
Did you just make a presupposition that the people on this forum are inherently liberal? Do you not understand that there are MANY pro-lifers in this forum, that there are PLENTY of people who aren't for gay marriage, that there are PLENTY of people in the forum of ALL different political views, from christians, to muslims, to atheists, we'rE ALL here...and my poll showed that of a complete melting pot of all diffferent views, 50% of people were perfectly ok with it, and all the people who VOICED an opinion in posts majoritively were ok with it. Again, your point is just wrong.