Prison - Rehabilitation and Capital Punishment
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blacktornado wrote...
The Jesus wrote...
Rehabilitation is bullshit. If a person breaks the law, it doesn't matter whether they are "rehabilitated" or not, they're still depreciated in the eyes of society. Instead of being accepted as another member of society, those who serve their time and are released from prison are considered ex-cons. The purpose of criminal rehabilitation is to reintegrate people, who have stepped outside the boundaries of social norms, into a community whose members are predisposed to emphasize variance among themselves. To answer the original question posed by Shaggy, it doesn't matter how we approach rehabilitation in prison systems, so long as we live in such a fundamentally flawed society.
I kinda agree with this view. The reason why most people commit crimes in the first place is because they are poor, have little to lose, and few ways out of their predictament. (If you are earning a few million bucks a year, you would certainly tend not to commit petty crimes, or murder, or rape. The crimes you might commit, you think twice about, cos you stand to lose a lot) Rehabilitation is based on the assumption that something is wrong with the person, but if the fault lies with the system, there is little rehabilitation can do. Ex-cons will be treated like shit, so they are basically back to the original environment they were in. Prison does not really help that much.
A clip from Shawshank Redemption:
This isn't always true. Many people are locked up for one or two years for things like MJ possession, DUI, and petty theft. At San Quentin Prison, there are a healthy number of people from the middle class and upper middle class who just made a wrong judgment for an arbitrary reason. People act stupid all the time, and this just isn't for the poor. The rich do it, too, and they do get locked up for it. When they see how much shit they are in, many are happy to fix this problem. Yes, there are repeat trouble-makers, but a good majority of them lack the proper self-esteem that their homes and their educations were supposed to nurture in them. As long as an ex-con has a GED or an AA, he will still be more competitive than a high school student looking for an entry-level job. Higher paying jobs are a different story.
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There is never a clear cut answer when dealing with problems concerning humans. The questions that is asked should be: how do we minimize potential damage?
Rehab: very necessary for making people useful again to society, but won't necessarily prevent repetition of the crimes. There are those that just won't stop creating trouble wherever they go, and must be held down for everybody's sake. Those that do benefit from rehab may be able to turn their whole life around, but whether or not they succeed really depends on their own motivation for reintergration to society.
Death Penalty: certainly useful against those who simply won't stop (ie: repeated offense). While I'm all for ethics and protection of life, it won't do to simply release those who are going to repeat their offense. There are stories of felons who are released that just goes back right away to repeat more crimes, like the case of case of Jaycee Dugard, who was kidnapped by Phillip Garrido and kept as a sex slave for 18 years. Garrido was a criminal on lifetime parole, but he simply repeated his crime anyways, only hiding it better this time. If he had been giving the needles, Jaycee would've grown up without all that trauma. Someone like Jaycee shouldn't have suffered so much for the sake of giving a criminal like Garrido a second chance.
In my old country of communist China, this guy would've been sent to hell via fire squad, and problem solved. Grisly? You betcha. But it does make one ponder about the pros and cons of the good old magic bullet, especially when it is the innocent that are often sacrificed for mistakes.
Rehab: very necessary for making people useful again to society, but won't necessarily prevent repetition of the crimes. There are those that just won't stop creating trouble wherever they go, and must be held down for everybody's sake. Those that do benefit from rehab may be able to turn their whole life around, but whether or not they succeed really depends on their own motivation for reintergration to society.
Death Penalty: certainly useful against those who simply won't stop (ie: repeated offense). While I'm all for ethics and protection of life, it won't do to simply release those who are going to repeat their offense. There are stories of felons who are released that just goes back right away to repeat more crimes, like the case of case of Jaycee Dugard, who was kidnapped by Phillip Garrido and kept as a sex slave for 18 years. Garrido was a criminal on lifetime parole, but he simply repeated his crime anyways, only hiding it better this time. If he had been giving the needles, Jaycee would've grown up without all that trauma. Someone like Jaycee shouldn't have suffered so much for the sake of giving a criminal like Garrido a second chance.
In my old country of communist China, this guy would've been sent to hell via fire squad, and problem solved. Grisly? You betcha. But it does make one ponder about the pros and cons of the good old magic bullet, especially when it is the innocent that are often sacrificed for mistakes.
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I'll answer this thread in a dialouge between two people namely Pillock and Terry.
Pillock was a poor unemployed bastard who never studied and now lives in a shack as a poor excuse for a human. One day he met a policeman named Terry.
"Gosh I'm hungry." Says pillock while still carrying the plastic filled with rugby he was sniffing awhile ago.
"Well too bad you're not in prison there's free food there." Says Terry as he scratched his fat bum.
"Really? Then in that case I should commit a crime then!" Says Pillock before looking for a nine year old boy to molest. Terry arrested him after jerking off watching Pillock anally violate the young boy.
"Molesting a nine-year old boy you should be burned to a steak for that! But instead have some soup and soda. We even put a free sneaker's bar there for you. Oh and later a really sexy woman will come to talk to you for your rehabilitation" Says Terry before giving one of his fellow policemen a piggyback ride.
So in short, rehabilitation is not a punishment at all and it just encourages more crimes. It's the worst idea ever.
Pillock was a poor unemployed bastard who never studied and now lives in a shack as a poor excuse for a human. One day he met a policeman named Terry.
"Gosh I'm hungry." Says pillock while still carrying the plastic filled with rugby he was sniffing awhile ago.
"Well too bad you're not in prison there's free food there." Says Terry as he scratched his fat bum.
"Really? Then in that case I should commit a crime then!" Says Pillock before looking for a nine year old boy to molest. Terry arrested him after jerking off watching Pillock anally violate the young boy.
"Molesting a nine-year old boy you should be burned to a steak for that! But instead have some soup and soda. We even put a free sneaker's bar there for you. Oh and later a really sexy woman will come to talk to you for your rehabilitation" Says Terry before giving one of his fellow policemen a piggyback ride.
So in short, rehabilitation is not a punishment at all and it just encourages more crimes. It's the worst idea ever.
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Tribly wrote...
Why did anyone never mentioned torture? If we starve the criminals, they will slowly die and have plenty of time thinking about what they have done and it saves us money by not feeding them.I don't like the special rehab treatment the prisoners are getting, most of them are ridiculous to the point that even prisoners from Guantanamo Bay get expensive health treatment that most of the citizens in America don't get.
Would it really work? Wouldnt we have to spend more attention on each prisoner that way and wouldnt that cost more money? It would also start a huge topic about and people would argue each other to death.
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So, i think that for capital punishment we should take all the death row inmates who want to, and put them in a giant arena and have them fight to the death. winner goes free (then we secretly kill that one). We put it on pay per view and make a shitload of money on it. Everybody wins, except the criminals.
