Raise awareness for internet unfairities
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People reading this thread. It has been a long time since my hiatus from fakku forums. Why you might ask? Well long story. I moved from Hong Kong to Australia to study. And what did I find out here that might catch your attention to the point that it needs to be written here in the serious discussion thread?
Nowadays, the worldwide web has become more and more advanced. Places like Singapore, Korea, Japan and many many parts of the world have cheap, access to the world internet. How bout Australia? Well ladies and gentlemen, Australia has limited and unreasonable internet access. Why? Well for starters lets see the speed wise, speed wise is normal compared to the other other countries and it processes the same reasonable speed as other countries.
But heres the dilenma, all companies in Australia does not have unlimited access to internet unlike the rest of the world. I personally joined a 12 GB plan and now suffer the consequences of having slowed internet for using up 12 GB in one week. In other countries like Hong Kong where I used to live in, problems like these never and I mean never surface because we have cheap and unlimited use of internet we can surf as much as you want and with no barriers. But now that I have come here I feel trapped and that I question, why only here? Why does only Australia force you to have a limited access?, I heard that it had something to do with privacy and security issues due to people downloading movies and crap but thats not the reason to force everyone to suffer like this?
Anyone else wanna voice their opinions on this matter?
Nowadays, the worldwide web has become more and more advanced. Places like Singapore, Korea, Japan and many many parts of the world have cheap, access to the world internet. How bout Australia? Well ladies and gentlemen, Australia has limited and unreasonable internet access. Why? Well for starters lets see the speed wise, speed wise is normal compared to the other other countries and it processes the same reasonable speed as other countries.
But heres the dilenma, all companies in Australia does not have unlimited access to internet unlike the rest of the world. I personally joined a 12 GB plan and now suffer the consequences of having slowed internet for using up 12 GB in one week. In other countries like Hong Kong where I used to live in, problems like these never and I mean never surface because we have cheap and unlimited use of internet we can surf as much as you want and with no barriers. But now that I have come here I feel trapped and that I question, why only here? Why does only Australia force you to have a limited access?, I heard that it had something to do with privacy and security issues due to people downloading movies and crap but thats not the reason to force everyone to suffer like this?
Anyone else wanna voice their opinions on this matter?
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Keep in mind two things:
1) local laws
2) local infrastructure, which is not free
Some local laws limit access. See China.
For the second, fiber optic cable and telephone lines are not free. Someone has to pay for them in order to have internet access in the first place. If you're living in an area where there isn't anybody willing to spend for the infrastructure required to support the internet, tough luck. Don't expect free broadband in places like Haiti.
Delivering competitive telecommunications services to regional and rural areas is a major issue, with Telstra often providing the only telecommunications backhaul transmission infrastructure. The large distance and small population means that providers interested in serving these areas often must invest large amounts of capital with low returns.
Due to Australia's large size, sparse population and relative remoteness to other countries, a significant amount of infrastructure is required for Internet communications. The vast majority of Australia's International Internet transit capacity is sourced from undersea fibre-optic communications cables to Asia or the USA
That's from Wikipedia. In other words, for the longest time, few companies were willing to invest in the internet in Australia due to several factors. Now that there is an infrastructure, looks like your companies are trying to recoup their costs.
1) local laws
2) local infrastructure, which is not free
Some local laws limit access. See China.
For the second, fiber optic cable and telephone lines are not free. Someone has to pay for them in order to have internet access in the first place. If you're living in an area where there isn't anybody willing to spend for the infrastructure required to support the internet, tough luck. Don't expect free broadband in places like Haiti.
Delivering competitive telecommunications services to regional and rural areas is a major issue, with Telstra often providing the only telecommunications backhaul transmission infrastructure. The large distance and small population means that providers interested in serving these areas often must invest large amounts of capital with low returns.
Due to Australia's large size, sparse population and relative remoteness to other countries, a significant amount of infrastructure is required for Internet communications. The vast majority of Australia's International Internet transit capacity is sourced from undersea fibre-optic communications cables to Asia or the USA
That's from Wikipedia. In other words, for the longest time, few companies were willing to invest in the internet in Australia due to several factors. Now that there is an infrastructure, looks like your companies are trying to recoup their costs.
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fatman wrote...
Keep in mind two things:1) local laws
2) local infrastructure, which is not free
Some local laws limit access. See China.
For the second, fiber optic cable and telephone lines are not free. Someone has to pay for them in order to have internet access in the first place. If you're living in an area where there isn't anybody willing to spend for the infrastructure required to support the internet, tough luck. Don't expect free broadband in places like Haiti.
Delivering competitive telecommunications services to regional and rural areas is a major issue, with Telstra often providing the only telecommunications backhaul transmission infrastructure. The large distance and small population means that providers interested in serving these areas often must invest large amounts of capital with low returns.
Due to Australia's large size, sparse population and relative remoteness to other countries, a significant amount of infrastructure is required for Internet communications. The vast majority of Australia's International Internet transit capacity is sourced from undersea fibre-optic communications cables to Asia or the USA
That's from Wikipedia. In other words, for the longest time, few companies were willing to invest in the internet in Australia due to several factors. Now that there is an infrastructure, looks like your companies are trying to recoup their costs.
so out of curiosity how long will it take or approx. how much money needs to be invested for Australia to advance?
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I myself live in Australia. I know what you mean. When I lived in Taiwan, the internet was basically limitless and really cheap.
One thing to consider though is what plan you want to purchase for internet usage. My family sticks to a 20 GB per month plan and we have no trouble sticking to it after exercising self-control and appropriate usage.
A friend of mine employs a 90GB plan where he gets 30GB access per month from noon to midnight and 60 GB in the remaining 12 hours. If I recall the price is quite reasonable.
However, you also have to select your company carefully. There are ones which charge you for excess usage and ones which simply slows down your net speed.
One thing to consider though is what plan you want to purchase for internet usage. My family sticks to a 20 GB per month plan and we have no trouble sticking to it after exercising self-control and appropriate usage.
A friend of mine employs a 90GB plan where he gets 30GB access per month from noon to midnight and 60 GB in the remaining 12 hours. If I recall the price is quite reasonable.
However, you also have to select your company carefully. There are ones which charge you for excess usage and ones which simply slows down your net speed.
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YOU THINK OZ HAS BAD INTERNET?
You should checkout NZ, its at least 2 years behind Aus. Unlimited 56k is still like $20 NZD a month.
We also have to pay for HD television...
You should checkout NZ, its at least 2 years behind Aus. Unlimited 56k is still like $20 NZD a month.
We also have to pay for HD television...
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as previously stated. Laws... and well people who can make money off anything in a legal manor will do it... money = power sadly
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If anyone's getting royally screwed concerning internet access, it's the chinese. You know that China is going to start banning MMORPG's for Chinese citizens? Why? Because things can be said on there that aren't censored that they want censored. For instance, say someone hops onto World of Warcraft, then someone in the Trade Channel goes, "china sucks! communist assholes!" Well China can't protect against that...it's a foreign person who they don't control and cannot legislate what they are and aren't allowed to say. Since this is beyond their control, they're just cancelling the idea altogether. It's bull, and I feel so sorry for those yellow skinned commie sonsobitches.
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BigLundi wrote...
If anyone's getting royally screwed concerning internet access, it's the chinese. You know that China is going to start banning MMORPG's for Chinese citizens? Why? Because things can be said on there that aren't censored that they want censored. For instance, say someone hops onto World of Warcraft, then someone in the Trade Channel goes, "china sucks! communist assholes!" Well China can't protect against that...it's a foreign person who they don't control and cannot legislate what they are and aren't allowed to say. Since this is beyond their control, they're just cancelling the idea altogether. It's bull, and I feel so sorry for those yellow skinned commie sonsobitches.Please fucking understand what's going on in China before you start ranting on how much China sucks.
The government does not have plans to ban MMORPG gaming in China, and unless they want people walking out into the streets protesting, will never consider such an unwise move.
A great majority of Chinese WOW players are fiercely patriotic. Just go baidu WOW and you'll know what I am talking about.
In fact, the only thing the government had done recently that kind of irked me was shutting down a couple of Bittorent sites. And that is not even an unreasonable move, seeing that piracy is so rampant in China that the gaming industry is on the verge of collapse.
And lastly, I apologise for being a "yellow skinned commie sonsobitch", as you chose to call us.
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Lol. Well I wasn't up to date on the ban not ban thing concerning WoW. I'm gonna go ahead and say My bad, because I heard it from friends first and...didn't ask questions...but as far as the yellow skinned commie thing goes, I'm just joking. I meant that about as much as Colbert means it when he calls Canadians Syrup Suckers.
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Lol, in fact, I am not that surprised that so many foreigners think that the Chinese government is excessively oppressive over internet access. I know more than a few Americans that think of China as a template that N. Korea based itself on.
The government does get overbearing at times (especially with sites that features 'indecent and lewd content'), but who knows, with China's current economic progress, we may just be heading towards information freedom in the next decade or something.
And until then, I will put up with all the hoops that I have to jump to get on FAKKU = =
The government does get overbearing at times (especially with sites that features 'indecent and lewd content'), but who knows, with China's current economic progress, we may just be heading towards information freedom in the next decade or something.
And until then, I will put up with all the hoops that I have to jump to get on FAKKU = =
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Personally I'm surprised they're able to mass censor two and a half billion people...I mean jeebus chrimianies That's a shitload. Our government can barely handle a third of a billion.
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Not really. If I have learnt anything at all from the Internet all these years, it would be that no firewall or blockade can stop any mildly IT-savy Chinese from accessing sites and information supposedly 'inaccessible' as deemed by the relevant authorities.
Most Chinese know alot more about 1989,Tibet,Falungong and the likes than the government cares to let on.
The only purpose such censorships serve is to make surfing adult sites a humongous pain in the ass.
Most Chinese know alot more about 1989,Tibet,Falungong and the likes than the government cares to let on.
The only purpose such censorships serve is to make surfing adult sites a humongous pain in the ass.
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BigLundi wrote...
Hence Fakku's .net, wich is awesome for getting past most firewalls.FAKKU`awesome +1
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I just wanted to let you guys know the current stand on how I feel being here in Aus. And also the let you guys know how fortunate some of you are out there especially those who's government has already got a monopoly on internet. If the citizens think its stupid and we all know it sucks then why do we still have it besides reasons with money involved?
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mwong04 wrote...
I just wanted to let you guys know the current stand on how I feel being here in Aus. And also the let you guys know how fortunate some of you are out there especially those who's government has already got a monopoly on internet. If the citizens think its stupid and we all know it sucks then why do we still have it besides reasons with money involved?That is something that differs Very much from country to country I would say. If the government took over the Internet here, the prize would go up tenfold, not to mention the extra taxes and shit like that they would add. Internet here is pretty cheap and it's fast, and Not owned by the government but instead run by privately owned companies that compete with each other and brings down the prize. As I think it is in most capitalistic and democratic countries, for good and bad.