Raising children. East vs West

In this video we see a high shooler or something gets slapped 13 times because he was joking around or some shit. Anyway I was wondering/thinking if this would eventually bring out the kids inner tiger and make him stronger and better ? I mean as the old saying goes what doesn't kill you make you stronger right ?

However some would say that the Japanese go way to far and are to harsh on there young especially westerners who do not believe in harshness especially towards disciplining students etc.

So what do you my fellow Fakku members think ? Is it okay to be harsh and strict if it will bring the best out of a student or would genteelness and kindness be better ?

How do the views between East and west differ and could you see both sides learning and or taking effective teaching measures from each other and implementing them in the class or daily life ?

I agree shark. I would most likely respond in the same way

I don't think so when a kid steal something will you only leave it as it is? no i will punish him for what he do.

When that kid steal something and left alone it will be a bigger problem they become a phedophile or something worse steal my bike.

What the Heck are you trying to get across ? I'm sorry but I just don't really understand what your trying to say ?

I don't agree with corporal punishment for one simple reason: violence doesn't inspire respect (or morality) in a child - it inspires fear.

Parents usually say: When I was a child, my father knew how to discipline me with a little tough love and I turned out fine and had a great deal of respect for him. And then they go on to explain, in gruesome detail, the punishments he applied and the fear they felt in antecipation of it, completely oblivious to the fact that their respect, wasn't respect at all.

You make a good point yet with out a certain amount of discipline and harshness could you not say that they will be at a disadvantage when they enter the real world ?

Discipline and harshness doesn't have to be synonym of corporal punishment. In these sort of discussions, people tend to think it is either a locked door or a door blown out of its hinges. The same thing happens with drug legalization, gay marriage and abortion.

I'm not saying that parenting is easy but I think the difference can be split between letting a kid run wild and giving him a bruise every other day.

This is more a discussion of physical punishment and strictness vs kindness and freedom when raising adolecents rather than one about east and west parenting methods. The title really sets up a misleading diachotomy and paints all of the east, particularly jp schools due to the video, as practicing physical punishment on adolesents. :[ This is not the case. I realize you probably got the idea from the video, hence the east west thing, but try to avoid such an extreme generalization.

If this was actually a discussion of the different methods of raising children in the east and west it would deal more with attitudes towards education, studying, freedom, level of involvement in the affairs of the child, etc and not just the positives and negatives of physical punishment.

This Us and Them, familiar and foreign set up automatically favours the former party in the discussion and it totally misrepresents the later.

As for whether I agree with such raising tactics. No. I actually find I react negatively even when I see a parent being a douch getting all strong voice/scoldy on their kids. It just doesnt feel right to me. But then Ive never yelled at anyone ever so maybe that relates to such sentiment.

I believe a little beating around is needed if really necessary. I was raised the Eastern way, and here I am.

I don't have any grudge against my family for what they had done. I was being a dick anyway. I thought I deserved that. But as long as it doesn't go over the limit, it's should be fine.

Kids with foul mouths and spoiled minds should be spanked.

It all depends on the extremity of what they did wrong.

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But in all seriousness I cannot condone violence towards a kid who isn't allowed to fight back and I hate kids, well, really young ones anyway. Whilst I believe they deserve punishment in accordance to what they did, if a teacher slapped me I'd probably hit him back and forever hold a grudge against him. No-one should be able to abuse someone and get away with it. A life lived in fear isn't a life at all. I remember being in classrooms with strict teachers and being terrified. Sure we got the work done, but sometimes I stayed off school to avoid their lessons. I would have attended far more had they been civilised.

I must say, though, considering this is something that occurred throughout my community and I myself included, was raised in this type of setting, that though it does leave one frustrated, because, especially in Asia, because it is so common, we consider it our form of punishment. Honor is a big thing for Asia and you screwing up is the same as your entire family fucking up. I can't really say that this type of punishment is perfect, but it creates discipline and to an extent, a drive to change, to excel, and a bunch of other things that aren't easy to translate from Asiatic languages to English. I don't believe that being beaten is to inspire fear, though it often happens, but to humiliate the one being beaten.

And also, this isn't specific to East vs. West but more like Old World vs. New World. I can personally account that at times the punishment did make me resentful and to an extent is why I still am a chuunibyou, for the reason that I wanted to break out of my settings. But from this, I believe I learned that a disciplined behavior can be much more useful and productive than one who simply was "grounded" and lost material things for some time. Then again, its lateand I could be ranting random crap right now.

Excuse me but what is a Chuunibyou ? Is that another word for a Sissy ?

In a simplier term, Chuunibyou is a person who delusion themselves like believing they are the man of Destiny, Dark Lord with Ultimate Power, or something like that

It isn't a binary choice.