[Locked] Random but what are your thoughts on zionism?
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I don't like mixing zionism with judaism, zionism comes from following the talmud
of the pharisees, and judaism with the torah (older bible no new testament though, it was the orig. book for real)
A zionist to me is a black magicka soorcerer - who loves to conquer nations.
They're really bad is my general theme to all this.
Evil people!
of the pharisees, and judaism with the torah (older bible no new testament though, it was the orig. book for real)
A zionist to me is a black magicka soorcerer - who loves to conquer nations.
They're really bad is my general theme to all this.
Evil people!
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Cormac wrote...
Fuck off you ignorant, inbred, witless, cunt.Hitler was a zionist, in fact no zionist was harmed in the rise of the third reich, it was all about land. Pretending to be jews they get away scot-free
While real jews got gassed in the holocaust.
Now that's somthing to be repulsed by.
Please do watch your language
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Androgeny wrote...
Cormac wrote...
Fuck off you ignorant, inbred, witless, cunt.Hitler was a zionist, in fact no zionist was harmed in the rise of the third reich, it was all about land. Pretending to be jews they get away scot-free
While real jews got gassed in the holocaust.
Now that's somthing to be repulsed by.
Please do watch your language
Please improve your grammar, sentence structure, and general intellect.
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Serious discussion is generally for concepts or questions you've considered, not vomited from the shallow recess of your mind.
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I think he the op is trying to say that Zionism is inherently bad because of the Israeli coming into Palestine and displacing the people who where there for like 200 years. Also there have been test stating that Hebrews can trace there genetics down to Abraham along with there imprisoned neighbors the Palestine who also share there same genetics. Anyway this shot Happened because of the Rothschild posing has fake Jews or those who converted but have no connection to Abraham genetic code etc.
Also they have a shit load of animals named after them and supposedly hold 500 Trillion dollars through getting two nations to fight or wage wars with each other and lending both sides money and causing major debt in said countries etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=UTA9ab4O42M. This one is extremely long
A much shorter video http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Ym4TTmOJ4I8
Also they have a shit load of animals named after them and supposedly hold 500 Trillion dollars through getting two nations to fight or wage wars with each other and lending both sides money and causing major debt in said countries etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=UTA9ab4O42M. This one is extremely long
A much shorter video http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Ym4TTmOJ4I8
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In an attempt to bring this discussion to something actually meaningful, let us discuss the history of Zionism as a political movement.
Yes, a political movement of a minority(but heavily influential) Jewish political minds within the Jewish political sect. First, we have to go back to the late 18th century when this movement first appeared in America.
And in general throughout Europe
Subjugation, violence, coercion, black mail. The Zionist ideal spent no expenditure and left no stone unturned in the quest for its own state, even if that state violated the premise of others.
The subjugation of the Western States by this powerful minority was far too obvious
And so, we are left with the situation we have today. Using historic political perseuction as a shield, the Zionist movement of the Jewish People(which has only grown larger and larger) continues to violate any reasonable sense of what the INTL. Community is.
We're also left with an identity crisis: No one here, whether on the left or right would concede to religious subjugation of Palestine(Well, there are many here in America who are Christians who've fell for the lie that Christianity should support "Israel" and thereby the movement, as ordained by the "bible")
Not only doesn't that make sense from a logical standpoint, it also doesn't make sense from a factual one:
Historically, the Jewish as a whole are hostile to Western religious, spiritual or moral ideals.
At the same time, the political clout afforded to the Zionist movement makes appropriating justice impossible. We cannot return Palestine to the Palestinians, if we did so, they would invoke the "holocaust" and a violation of their rights. Neverminding that they violated the rights of the Arabs.
In short, we're stuck between a rock and a hard place. Our best and only solution is neutrality from Israel, but even then with AIPAC and other such organizations, I'll state this about neutrality and about Israel:
-Should America, ever gain the political will(or even that of the Western World were to gain political will) to declare neutrality from Israel, what will clearly follow is a declaration of war from Israel against the United(and thereby other Western) States.
We'll have to face this problem sooner or later, it's an alliance made out of hell that doesn't serve our interests.
Yes, a political movement of a minority(but heavily influential) Jewish political minds within the Jewish political sect. First, we have to go back to the late 18th century when this movement first appeared in America.
And in general throughout Europe
Subjugation, violence, coercion, black mail. The Zionist ideal spent no expenditure and left no stone unturned in the quest for its own state, even if that state violated the premise of others.
The subjugation of the Western States by this powerful minority was far too obvious
And so, we are left with the situation we have today. Using historic political perseuction as a shield, the Zionist movement of the Jewish People(which has only grown larger and larger) continues to violate any reasonable sense of what the INTL. Community is.
We're also left with an identity crisis: No one here, whether on the left or right would concede to religious subjugation of Palestine(Well, there are many here in America who are Christians who've fell for the lie that Christianity should support "Israel" and thereby the movement, as ordained by the "bible")
Not only doesn't that make sense from a logical standpoint, it also doesn't make sense from a factual one:
Historically, the Jewish as a whole are hostile to Western religious, spiritual or moral ideals.
At the same time, the political clout afforded to the Zionist movement makes appropriating justice impossible. We cannot return Palestine to the Palestinians, if we did so, they would invoke the "holocaust" and a violation of their rights. Neverminding that they violated the rights of the Arabs.
In short, we're stuck between a rock and a hard place. Our best and only solution is neutrality from Israel, but even then with AIPAC and other such organizations, I'll state this about neutrality and about Israel:
-Should America, ever gain the political will(or even that of the Western World were to gain political will) to declare neutrality from Israel, what will clearly follow is a declaration of war from Israel against the United(and thereby other Western) States.
We'll have to face this problem sooner or later, it's an alliance made out of hell that doesn't serve our interests.
