Rape being re-defined by Senator Akin

Todd Akin, Republican nominee for U.S. Senate in Missouri, said that women have magical ladyparts to protect them from rape sperm when they are victims of "legitimate rape." He then apologized on Monday for saying rape rarely leads to pregnancy, but he continued to distinguish between types of rape.

What the hell does that mean? Legitamite Rape? Are there different types/ styles of rape that aren't public knowelge? Like, Forced Rape? Gentle Rape? Silent Rape?

How I see it, Rape is Rape. There's no differnce and trying to say other wise is just mkaing it worse.

What is your take on this?

So is this discussion solely about Todd Akin's words or the definition of rape?

I'll go check his entire statement.(I think it was something about abortions?)

I read this earlier today. That person is an idiot and his money got him the nomination. Rape is Rape. Only in hentai can pregnancy be chosen during rape.

As I looked it up, only a select few cases per year for abortion, are rape-related. http://www.christianliferesources.com/article/rape-pregnancies-are-rare-461

This is political grandstanding, on the statement of "legitimate rape", what he should have said simply was:
"The chances of becoming pregnant from rape, are very slim."

But because of his awful choice of words, he's in hot water.

Not so much as Mr. Akin himself, but on what he said. I was also looking for your opinion's on this idea of there being multiple "types" of rape.

Does that make sense?



I not an expert on the subject, I've mostly ready article's on the subject( one of them being the article you mentioned). And from from what I've read, they say different things. Some so it's rare, some say that happens thousands of times throughout the year. I don't know which is true, but I do know that numbers aren't accurate. It's incomplete due to the number of rapes that haven't been reported. How are we to know that they didn't result in pregnacies?

So the quote you mentioned, "the chances of becoming pregnant from rape, are very slim", wouldn't have been any better of a statement for the Senator to use.

This is all my opinion though, so believe what you will.

It depends. You can be raped without having intercourse.

I completely agree with you; Rape is rape. There is no gentle rape or grey rape. And I personally don't like some paternalistic man who listens to BAD (like really bad) science (that I'm pretty sure he made up) thinking he know better than me when it comes to my health and welfare and decisions about my body. Or belittle the suffering of victims of so called "Not-really-Rape-Rape".

Not every single "rape" case is the same really. Every case should be examined thoroughly...That being said, I know our justice system(here in the USA) is far from perfect.



That isn't the biggest issue in rape statistics...Although it isn't fair to assume that it wouldn't change the statistics of people who do get pregnant from their rapist.

It's like saying it doesn't snow much in California, after reporting all of the incidents of snow in California, the percentage generally won't raise that much higher.

For proper statistical probability, there has to be a significant base percentage. Another example is the election process, if a candidate wins more states than another candidate, it doesn't matter if candidate b overwhelming wins in the states he won.(Of course, the delegate vote of keystone states changes this somewhat, but not really.)

Yeah, I got a good laugh out of that article. Just helps prove that power doesn't equal intelligence.

Do please explain.

I suppose that would be molesting?
Ah, how I love it when senators mess up.

Unless messing up had something to do with my money.

Rape
1.
the unlawful compelling of a person through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.
2.
any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person.

Molest - harass or assault sexually

They sound same to me.

just all of my opinions on this matter in a nutshell:


seriously, what a f*cking moron

I guess the key word here is intercourse.
I'm no expert though.

I just assumed " assault Sexually" covered intercourse. But that's just my opinion.

From what I was taught in this anti-rape and self-defence class, rape could also accommodate a foreign object. My mind wanders to that hentai scene with the tennis racket. ._____.

Don't know if it changes anything, though.

He is not the first idiot to try to make "classes" of rape. It's been happening (with both stupid and wellmeaning intent) for ages now, though in the eyes of the law, there's only rape.

However, for many years, certain types of rape were thought to BE non-legitimate: rape by a person someone had already had consensual sex with prior to a rape; rape within marriage; rape by a friend or someone close (as for many years, and today, some taught that rape was mostly a "stranger in the bushes" phenom, which statistics show is the lowest occurring sort), etc. Some types of rape were considered "sex that was owed someone" due to position/status/race/etc, which is pretty fucked up.

This article covers its recent history. http://jezebel.com/5936160/the-official-guide-to-legitimate-rape

"RAINN defines rape as "forced sexual intercourse, including vaginal, anal, or oral penetration. Penetration may be by a body part or an object." To clarify: "Rape victims may be forced through threats or physical means. In about 8 out of 10 rapes, no weapon is used other than physical force. Anyone may be a victim of rape: women, men or children, straight or gay."

"(And here's some additional info for Scientist Akin: according to a 1996 article in the American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology, "among adult women an estimated 32,101 pregnancies result from rape each year." According to Planned Parenthood, more than five percent of all rapes result in pregnancy.)"

Sadly, it HAS taken until this YEAR for the FBI to redefine its own definition of rape - until recently, it only stipulated that females could be raped by a male (when this is clearly not the only kind of rape).



But that is not true either.
If you read above, even in '96 (and one can probably safely assume, with population increase, these high instances continue) "among adult women an estimated 32,101 pregnancies result from rape each year".

I am glad you looked up statistics, but they are not scientifically objective, as they come from a faith-based (and thus, biased) source.



Forced anal and/or oral penetration also constitute rape.

Sexual assault can describe a broad range of actions, ranging from molestation to rape. It is often used by the press to keep the actual type of harm a victim suffered under wraps for their safety and privacy, or until they wish to make public confirmation of the offense that was committed.

I think it can also mean you're touching inappropriately.
Like some sicko touching a girl.

ok, so.... let me see if I have this right.

Rape can be with a person forcing them selves on another and forcing an object into the other (ex. vibrator).
But, molesting is the unwanted sexual advance of another. Be it flirting, groping, and even assault of sexual nature.