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Hi softbanker, glad you didn't bother to read any of my posts in this thread.
I stated before that:
Your allegation is in fact wrong and ridiculous. Pass a basic Snellen test, then we shall debate the issue again.
And? That magically makes perverting the police force into a revenge force right?
No, it does not. The job of the police is to enforce laws, not to go on vendettas. An officer must understand that or resign.
Even more ridiculous is the point about bribes. How does that make anything magically alright? A corrupt cop must go, come hell or high water.
No, let's not. Do you comprehend the difference between people jerking it to cartoon rape and people beating others into a bloody mess?
One is a victimless crime, the other is not. One involves nobody getting hurt, the other clearly DOES involve people getting hurt.
If my fetish were to gas everyone with an IQ below room temperature, would you also want to be told "your fetish is your fetish and my fetish is mine" as I turn up the valve? I think not. Even though I'd "have my reason" for it, it doesn't make it right.
Murder is wrong, no matter whether it's someone's fetish; brutalizing others is wrong no matter whether it's someone's fetish.
I mean that your post holds (and always should) its water as is, and no quote would be necessary to reinforce the point made.
softbanker wrote...
you find pleasure seeing women get hurt or rape 2d or 3dI stated before that:
Gibbous wrote...
Personally, it disgusts me to no end, whether fictional or real. Your allegation is in fact wrong and ridiculous. Pass a basic Snellen test, then we shall debate the issue again.
softbanker wrote...
This kinda thing really do happened in real life. Sometimes even victims bribe cops to return the favor to the criminal who done them wrong. Criminals like rapist are really bad persons. Think of the damage that it do to the victim. The agony and the pain of shame. Some victims even commit suicides.And? That magically makes perverting the police force into a revenge force right?
No, it does not. The job of the police is to enforce laws, not to go on vendettas. An officer must understand that or resign.
Even more ridiculous is the point about bribes. How does that make anything magically alright? A corrupt cop must go, come hell or high water.
softbanker wrote...
Maybe the venveng have his reason why he like beating up bad guys. Lets put it this way; you find pleasure seeing women get hurt or rape 2d or 3d, venveng find pleasure beating up criminals. His fetish is his fetish, you mind your own.No, let's not. Do you comprehend the difference between people jerking it to cartoon rape and people beating others into a bloody mess?
One is a victimless crime, the other is not. One involves nobody getting hurt, the other clearly DOES involve people getting hurt.
If my fetish were to gas everyone with an IQ below room temperature, would you also want to be told "your fetish is your fetish and my fetish is mine" as I turn up the valve? I think not. Even though I'd "have my reason" for it, it doesn't make it right.
Murder is wrong, no matter whether it's someone's fetish; brutalizing others is wrong no matter whether it's someone's fetish.
discordia wrote...
By powerful you meant far fetched or is there some other criticism (maybe sarcasm) I missed?I mean that your post holds (and always should) its water as is, and no quote would be necessary to reinforce the point made.
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To gibbous:
You haven't have a taste of reality yet. Why not go outside and experience it for yourself. Reality is always unfair and harsh.
You haven't have a taste of reality yet. Why not go outside and experience it for yourself. Reality is always unfair and harsh.
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Yeah life is strength, but it can be restless. Sometimes it's better to invoke peace.
With mutual desire, lust is fully enjoyable, you can fuck the girl better with force, you have to chase the girl. You can still fuck hard on mutual desire.
With mutual desire, lust is fully enjoyable, you can fuck the girl better with force, you have to chase the girl. You can still fuck hard on mutual desire.
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mibuchiha
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softbanker wrote...
To gibbous:You haven't have a taste of reality yet. Why not go outside and experience it for yourself. Reality is always unfair and harsh.
I think you don't really understand what gibbous is trying to say here....
What he's trying to say is...just because it happens in reality(corrupt officers etc) doesn't make it MORALLY right to do so. Reality does not justify a wrong action. And do you really think by blaming it on reality being harsh and unfair, you can justify doing wrong things? I don't think so. All it shows is your inability to come up with better ways to solve the problem at hand.
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Rape hentai is a bit disturbing, espcially the premises of the plots in most of them. It is a boarderline thing, because just cause it turns you on doesn't mean its okay to make hentai about it. If someone enjoyed seeing racist genocide, well then that'd still be something to horrible to make into a hentai.
Rape is a horrible thing, again it is boarder line, hentai just can't take it to far.
On a side note I role-played a school girl rape thing with my girlfriend, but it was almost ruined because when I saw her in a japanese school girl uniform I quoted family guy and said "Well, okay... then... I'm a black guy..."
Rape is a horrible thing, again it is boarder line, hentai just can't take it to far.
On a side note I role-played a school girl rape thing with my girlfriend, but it was almost ruined because when I saw her in a japanese school girl uniform I quoted family guy and said "Well, okay... then... I'm a black guy..."
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its really just all bout how you see them.
i enjoy and consider myself a sympathizer of such games, i think of the rape/violence presented in these games as mere fantasy...
for me, practicing digital violence (including rape, torture, and even canibalism) has notting to do with reality, and that being a rapist in an rape-themed erogame is no different than being a drugdealer+massmurderer in GTA or blowing an entire city + practicing canibalism in Fallout 3.
As long as you do realise you are inflicting pain and suffering "to a machine", and how and why it is different from causing pain to real beings, its perfecly fine to do so.
its as simple as the following:
Digital: does NOT feels pain or suffering of any kind.
Reality: does feel physical pain, as well as physical or mental suffering.
The reason why real violence is bad:
-Real beings (human or not) dont like feeling pain and dont like being hurt physicaly or mentaly.
-Even if you are a masochist that feels pleasure in feeling pain, other peopple think, act and feel different from you.
-Even if you think think the other person is ok with your actions (ex: the "rape that turns pleasurous" presented in a lot of rape-themed erogames), as mentioned before, peopple are different from you, and u might be just simply 100% wrong.
Conclusion: Never do anything that might cause pain/suffering to anyone, unless that person has given you an explicit autorization to do so. (ex: even if your partner is a masochist and you know it, you shouldnt cause any kind of pain to him/her before he/she says you can.)
The reason why DIGITAL violence is NOT bad:
As for digital beings tough, they are the complete oposite, and even if they resemble real-life beings, they are mere electric signals running through a piece of electronic equipment (PC, Consoles or Portables)...and its guaranteed they wont feel any real pain of any kind...so, in my opinion at last, its ok to torture the poor things as much as i want. ;D *evil laughs + goes play kasumi-rebirth*
i enjoy and consider myself a sympathizer of such games, i think of the rape/violence presented in these games as mere fantasy...
for me, practicing digital violence (including rape, torture, and even canibalism) has notting to do with reality, and that being a rapist in an rape-themed erogame is no different than being a drugdealer+massmurderer in GTA or blowing an entire city + practicing canibalism in Fallout 3.
As long as you do realise you are inflicting pain and suffering "to a machine", and how and why it is different from causing pain to real beings, its perfecly fine to do so.
its as simple as the following:
Digital: does NOT feels pain or suffering of any kind.
Reality: does feel physical pain, as well as physical or mental suffering.
The reason why real violence is bad:
-Real beings (human or not) dont like feeling pain and dont like being hurt physicaly or mentaly.
-Even if you are a masochist that feels pleasure in feeling pain, other peopple think, act and feel different from you.
-Even if you think think the other person is ok with your actions (ex: the "rape that turns pleasurous" presented in a lot of rape-themed erogames), as mentioned before, peopple are different from you, and u might be just simply 100% wrong.
Conclusion: Never do anything that might cause pain/suffering to anyone, unless that person has given you an explicit autorization to do so. (ex: even if your partner is a masochist and you know it, you shouldnt cause any kind of pain to him/her before he/she says you can.)
The reason why DIGITAL violence is NOT bad:
As for digital beings tough, they are the complete oposite, and even if they resemble real-life beings, they are mere electric signals running through a piece of electronic equipment (PC, Consoles or Portables)...and its guaranteed they wont feel any real pain of any kind...so, in my opinion at last, its ok to torture the poor things as much as i want. ;D *evil laughs + goes play kasumi-rebirth*
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As long as its 2D I say it all fair. People need to stop all this it inhumane crap. It’s not real and it not hurting anyone. As long as you keep reality and fiction separated there shouldn’t be a problem.
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this is the actual reason that i like hentai , no matter what happens you know that no actual people were involved in making it.
to set things straight i strongly believe that rape is one of the worst crimes to be committed.
Think about porn. if pornography in general were banned this means that-obviously- no porn movies etc would 've been made BUT does that mean that men(or women who watch porn) would no longer want to have sex?
i mean i don't think there's much connection between what you see on a game or a picture that what you do in real life. So weather rape porn is or not banned this wouldn't affect the actual amount of rapes that would happen
hentai is exactly for this. thins that ppl don't or shouldn't do in their real lives but enjoy watching :)
to set things straight i strongly believe that rape is one of the worst crimes to be committed.
Think about porn. if pornography in general were banned this means that-obviously- no porn movies etc would 've been made BUT does that mean that men(or women who watch porn) would no longer want to have sex?
i mean i don't think there's much connection between what you see on a game or a picture that what you do in real life. So weather rape porn is or not banned this wouldn't affect the actual amount of rapes that would happen
hentai is exactly for this. thins that ppl don't or shouldn't do in their real lives but enjoy watching :)
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2D is fine. Reality, no.
Well sometimes I hate it in 2d, but really depending on the character.
Reality. God why do you have to be such pussys and rape women. Wtf did they do to you assholes. you just dont go out there and go. Rape Rape Rape. IF you were a girl you'd probably been knocked up, got yourself AIDS ditched by your rapist. then your fucking child would become a mugger, if he doesn't, good luck with your pregnancy.
Well sometimes I hate it in 2d, but really depending on the character.
Reality. God why do you have to be such pussys and rape women. Wtf did they do to you assholes. you just dont go out there and go. Rape Rape Rape. IF you were a girl you'd probably been knocked up, got yourself AIDS ditched by your rapist. then your fucking child would become a mugger, if he doesn't, good luck with your pregnancy.
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venveng wrote...
I hate rape and anything relating violence against women either 2d or 3d. I love girls and I love to take care of them, makes me really happy just seeing em happy. I'm also really really happy when I get to beat up men who abuses/hurt women. Oh the sounds they make when they say "I won't do it anymore, pls don't kick my balls again" and the sounds there flesh and bones make every time I kick and punches them is like music to my ears. The taste of em blood gushing out of control as I mercilessly do a 1, 2 punch combo. I'm a police officer and beating up criminals is my favorite past time, rapist are my favorites.The fact you stated this would call into question your mental stability and your suitability to deal with criminals.
Let me remind you that you are an enforcer of the law not judge, jury and executioner. If you want vigilante justice quit being a police officer and go beat up people in your own time, don't go tarnishing the already poor reputation the police has.
Edit: We all hate crime but lowering yourself to their standards makes you no better than them.
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WTF they wanna ban rape-themed hentai/games now as well???... FUCKING RETARDS, they banned loli and now they wanna ban rape too??????... WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE!?
Excuse my rage, but WTF?... Did the ban of loli do any good to the world, did pedo crimes suffer a decrease in occurence since this bullshit law? Do they actually think rape crimes will decrease if they do this? FUCKING IDIOTS.
I'm very aroused by loli, rape, beast and MANY other fucked up fetishes some people would consider immoral or abnormal, but I'd in no way rape someone, or fuck a kid simply because I don't wanna cause unneeded and unnecessary suffering to someone else, for the sole reason that it's not fair and people have rights. So does having these fetishes make me a monster? FUCK NO.
Most of the people who govern this world are fucking cunts, retards and hypochrites.
No real people/animals are getting hurt in fictional materials.
If mental deficiency would be a crime, the vast majority of governors/senators etc. would be behind bars.
Excuse my rage, but WTF?... Did the ban of loli do any good to the world, did pedo crimes suffer a decrease in occurence since this bullshit law? Do they actually think rape crimes will decrease if they do this? FUCKING IDIOTS.
I'm very aroused by loli, rape, beast and MANY other fucked up fetishes some people would consider immoral or abnormal, but I'd in no way rape someone, or fuck a kid simply because I don't wanna cause unneeded and unnecessary suffering to someone else, for the sole reason that it's not fair and people have rights. So does having these fetishes make me a monster? FUCK NO.
Most of the people who govern this world are fucking cunts, retards and hypochrites.
No real people/animals are getting hurt in fictional materials.
If mental deficiency would be a crime, the vast majority of governors/senators etc. would be behind bars.
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If i would answer i would think that rape in real world would be a very bad thing however this is 2D is it?
It is something we could take for relieving our lust for some of those things that we could not achieved in real world. So if they take away all of those things from those who needs it how can they satisfy their needs? By raping real women?
It is something we could take for relieving our lust for some of those things that we could not achieved in real world. So if they take away all of those things from those who needs it how can they satisfy their needs? By raping real women?
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I personally hate rape, whether it's 2D or not. And I don't think people don't like rape hentai because they think it's "real", but more like they don't want to see the image of girl getting raped by some thug. People have different tastes and fetishes, that's understandable. But to say that a person's porn preference has no correlation to their mental state or psychological standing sounds like total bullcocky to me. People don't really know themselves unless they can somehow access their subconscious or analyze their brain, so saying that you like rape hentai but would never EVER commit rape is questionable to me. But like I said, people have different tastes. Another reason I think people don't like rape hentai is because of the empathy factor. When they learn about the character and see who she is and know what she's like, and then BAM all of sudden she's getting raped, people empathize. It's sort of human nature to empathize with someone in a bad situation. Of course this only really applies to rape with a story so it's not an exact thing. But back to the original question itself, people like rape hentai because they have power in that world when they don't have power in real world. By power I mean the authority to have total control over someone or a group. It's basically the most primitive human desire for total control and rape-lovers love fantasizing about that power. Like I've said before and before, people have different kinks. I myself am a total feminist. I don't like it where a girl is raped, humiliated, blackmailed, etc. Of course that means I like it when a girl is in total control. If a girl rapes a guy, then I'm all for it. To me, that's way hotter than a dude raping a girl. Well I've written a lot and don't feel like summarizing so people are just going to skim this. =/
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Kuroneko1/2 wrote...
Yumeko-chan wrote...
They should spend their time worrying about REAL girls who are going through REAL abuse instead of trying to dictate people's sexual tastes.Yeah, what the hell. Why not deal with some SERIOUS problems instead, eh? Picking on otakus... Seriously, why?
Personally I dont like shota and rape an what not thats my personal opinion on "taste"! But I really dont give a damn since Im watching an animated form of cartoon sex (aka hentai) and whatever gets you off is the point~ Not worrying about the moral value of it, since when we were all little the subject itself was like taboo so how can we not want to get off to something thats completely safe and harmless but is depicted in a way some fuck tard doesnt understand~? Screw them! It should stay for the fack of my boner and nothing else! Hentai = animated porn. NOT Hentai = teaching you a valuable lesson. Wth? >:/.