religion

Yet another touchy subject. If anyone feels this discussion gets out of hand just let me know. I study religion as a hobby for many years now. I'm not trying to say I'm an expert or anything, I just want to hear other's opinion on the matter. I've studied a wide range of religions including Christianity, Judiaism, Buddism, Wicca, Voodoo, Satanism, and several ancient religions. From what I can tell most religions have the same message (with the exception of satanism, and some occults). Oh, and just to clarify, when I say study I mean in a scientific sence, not practicing. Personally I'm a bit of a universalist leaning toward christianity. I believe in one omnipotent entity, however, I believe this entity (which I refer to as "the allmighty") takes a form the individual can best understand. thus making all religions correct in a sence. Anyone willing to add to this discussion will be appreciated, I'm always looking to advance my understanding.

*ahem* I'm not a religious person, and with all the crap you hear from others, it makes one wonder why be religious. Reason being is that, many religions, especially Christianity, Islam and I'm sure many others, tend to be hypocritical. Further more, the extremists do some of the most terrible things because "That's what God/Jesus/Allah would want". Besides the extremism what also pisses me off about those religions is that can't just have their own faith, they also have to be a prick to everyone who doesn't think like them. I could go into a whole thing with this, but I don't feel like it.

The point that I'm trying to make is that back in the old days, Religion was an attempt at answering the big questions :What are we?, where did we come from? where will we go? Religion was a means of guiding one's life, and help them to be a better person. It was about learning to cope with your problems and love your fellow man. But as things progress, they tend to change and in some ways corrupt.

That's what I can come up with for now

I'm not going to read or reply to anything either of you have said, but I would like to point out that this thread has been made at least three times.

Here:
https://www.fakku.net/viewtopic.php?t=5503

and Here:
https://www.fakku.net/viewtopic.php?t=5051 (This one is more of a joke.)

and Here:
https://www.fakku.net/viewtopic.php?t=2190


I mean: I understand this is something people want to talk about, but could you at least keep it down to one thread? (The top one is the newest.)

As Puri Said this topic has been done before but, for the sake of argument.

(Just in case you are referring to the 'OMG look I'mma Devil Worshiper, baby sacrifice lolz" If not then I apologize)

True Satanism is the pursuit of what you desire. Satan meaning adversary as in being the enemy of those who prevent you from indulging your desires. In a general way my personal views and actions in life are similar to the Satanic "Rules The Nine Satanic Statements The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth and the The Nine Satanic Sins

Even though I somewhat follow their guidelines I don't call myself a Satanist because I don't believe in Magick or other "Supernatural" things (Ghosts,etc)

I don't follow anything.

I don't feel a need to have one. I just live life..

my parents are devout moslem
but i'm a moslem only in my id.
the truth is,i hate moslem.
how come they forbid me to eat pig and marry my cousin?

That's just how religion is... stupid tenets and rules to follow for what? At the root of it, religion is just a way of life, but more often than not reilgion is the source of all conflicts (at least back then, blood was spilled and now words are tossed around) if not a contributor to conflicts.

Amen. :lol:

I'm very comfortable with not having a religious title under my belt. I don't even want to be called an Atheist. No label for me please. I go my own way, I make my own conscious decisions of what's bad and what's right. I lead my own path to where I think I'll end up happy.

Nicely put, though I label myself as an agnostic... I'm a logical kind of guy, which means if it exists, it exists - just waiting a sign from higher up. (Though I'm a closet Buddhist in a sense because my parents are Buddhist.) By the way, your use of "amen" makes me laugh.

Well, sorry to bring up an old subject. I'm actually new to the forums. Thanks for the feedback. Just to let you guys know it's more of a scientific facination than a religious thing. I've always been facinated by religion... not really sure why. I'm not trying to judge anyone on anything. To me it doesn't matter what you call "The Allmighty", What gender you believe it to be, or how many forms you believe it takes, it's all the same collective subconcience. It's only to expand my own views on the subject. I really don't get the opportunity to discuss this subject without some asshole trying to convert me to whatever (especially orthodox christians). Once again I appologise for bringing up an old subject, and will refrain from doing so again.

No I view satanism the same way I view all other religions, with an unbiased scientific point of view.

Which is why I'm agnostic. I do believe that there is something out there pulling our strings and laughing at us silently, but there's no concrete proof of anything of that sort. If anyone can prove to me that there is a higher order with hard, solid facts, I'll gladly accept it, though I probably won't be a believer.

I can swear that Satanism without it's hocus-pocus stuff is really just hedonism. I've got nothing wrong with seeking my own pleasures, but I won't slap a Satanist label on myself.

Nicely put.

Most people have that train of thought when you mention Satanism (Lolz Bebe/Goat Sacifice, Hur Hur I wer ship da Deval lol). Thats what I was pointing out since there are so many misconceptions about it. If people are going to criticize a religion they should at least spend some time getting to know the real practitioners is my point to all of this.

point made. I don't presume to judge. Like I said I take a purely scientific interest in this sort of thing. Also once again I appologise for bringing up an old subject. so if anyone believes I should just end this, just say so.

ok,this may get off topic a bit.
i sometimes feel that the concept "praying to god" is.....strange.
i don't understand why we should pray to him.
i don't know the benefit of praying to god.
we pray to god mainly because we want him to grant our desire.
but,is by praying to him our desire would be granted?
i've seen a lot of people who pray hard,only to receive the biggest of disaster/temptation/hardships.
i'm not the type of man who would pray to god,but i feel like i'm very blessed.i'm healthy,above average money-wise.....
i don't know why every religion tell us to pray to god.
did he really need our praying?
i mean,it's not like god'll die or something if we dont pray to him,right?

i'm not searching for controversy,nor i want to push my belief to y'all.
but i feel like i'm lost somehow.i need some other perspective to sort out my thougts about god,thats all.

any suggestion/opinion etc. is much appreciated.

Well mnx, "The Allmighty" i believe is completely beyond all human comprehension. Prayer can take many forms itself. Ranging from meditation (which works best for me), to praying (for lack of a better term) comventionally, to ritualistic sacrifice (Voodoo and occult). Prayer in my opinion is a very personal thing. I can't really say I recommend ritualistic sacrifice, but have you ever tried meditation? If not give it a shot. Don't misunderstand I'm not trying to convert you to anything. Everyone must find their own path. No two people are exactly the same so the same things won't work for everyone. Basically just try finding a nice quiet place, breath in through your nose and out of your mouth, and focus on whatever it is troubling you. You might just be able to come up with an answer. As to the nature of God I believe Names, forms, etc. are irrelevant. I believe what we call God, Allah, etc. is simply a personification of a central collective subconcience. I'm merely suggesting trying new methods, if conventional prayer doesn't seem to work for you try a different approach. All and all there really isn't any benefit to prayer, just every once in a while you manage to find an answer or two.

Praying is an interesting concept but, I don't see the point. People say "God Answers prays in Yes, No, and Wait". Its a perfectly constructed excuse. Because if something happens "Ah God said yes" if nothing happens its either a no or a wait. People depend on prayer so much I think they miss the point. Why would an all powerful and all knowing god put us on this planet and give us free will if he wanted us to surrender the life he gave us to pray and place ourselves into servitude.Then punish us if we don't pray and use the very thing he gave us (free will). If he was all knowing how could he not see the outcome of such a scenario?

praise the all mighty teachings of the milk jug!!!

Hey man, i appreciate random comments as much as everyone else, but we are attempting to have an intelligent dialogue here. so I'd appreciate it if you would go do this in the Incoherent Babble section. thanks man.