Submission to sex

So yeah i've been checking out some slave & master related material lately and i realize that much of it is either rape or sexually brainwashing the slave into loving the master.

PS // while ntr is really much similar to this i think the important difference is that the girl is not in any relationship with some dude.


Much of those master's ( i'm not saying all of them are) old/fat/filthy/disgusting men who only are there to agitate and make the reader rage, so yes they serve a psychic purpose and perhaps in some way the otakus can relate themself if the male looks like that i dunno.


But i think ( not that my opinion makes no differ) that they draw the attention away from the hot women and i mean that's what we all are here for when it comes to h-material and i think it's a pity.
For who wants to see all those not really necessary ass positions or morbid face/body features that the male has?

I'm saying there should be more normal build men and appropriate age in these kind of doujins and much less of the opposite.

I just got the urge to find out what so spectacular about slave & master so i created this thread, but mods don't go ape shit on me if there already exist an thread like this one since i used the search function and i found nothing on this subject.


I want to have your idea on how it is arousing and what could really be skipped or made different.


For me i guess it's the part when the girl finally starts to like it and looses the urge to fight back so she finally gives in to the urges. but nah not so much that it turns into fucked silly for the rest of story and she becomes a broken piece of meat that they fuck nonstop.


Like i said the male should be left out, most to the imagination and not take up the major part of the frame or not even a 1/4 . sometimes i even have edited the images with paint to remove the major parts with the male and believe it or not it gets so much better for me alteast.


They don't have to be in a slave & master relation at first since it's more fun to see it evolving from scratch.

Domination is ofcourse the key word and many likes to be in controll in the sex but i could go for turns and turning the tables around for interessting results :D


If you want some referring material i can recommend Minpei Ichigo's work which you can find on e-hentai.


Ugh i guess i wrote to much shit but cheers on those who take their time reading through this worthless topic...

Some people are drawing into Bdsm and mind fuck/breaks...

I think the appeal is that its something that would be morally objectionable in real life(at least the rape and mindbreak. There are some people in real life who get off on being submissive, so one can enjoy the master/slave thing in real life without being a rapist)but manga & anime allows one to enjoy these acts without compromising one's moral code

Well, Its just kinda... uncomfortable to fap to a Doujin when you keep remembering that some hot girl is (usually) getting Raped/Mindbreak/etc. I mean I like that genre (not my favorite) but only those in which the guy doing those things isn't repulsive in terms of looks. Plus (for me anyway) you just keep remembering that its a generally unappealing guy connected to that meat-rod so I say:

...Nay.

Personally, I think depending on how its done, Rape/Mindbreak/Domination, can be done well and be arousing, but at the same time, if done poorly, it is definitely a turn off. For me personally, In the great majority of cases, NTR and Old Man Doujins really turn me off.

Apparently you haven't witnessed the manga Nana to Kaoru.

Its a good general starting point on understanding slave and master relationships while keeping it vanilla.

Here have a look:
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/nana_to_kaoru/

In any event I skim the old man. NTR is fine for me only to a certain degree.
And BDSM is interesting to me in alot of aspects as long as it doesn't cross that guro line.

BTW: redo that pole. Its really confusing when you vote one subject while you offered 3 topics that have no relation whatsoever haha (besides the obvious).

If the sex, themes, or female art are hot enough, I keep it in my collection. If the male art is enough of a boner-kill, I go in paint and edit circles over the offending faces. Problem solved, and you still have hot-ass hentai.

I'm going nay for this one.
But like they've already said about: If it's hot enough, it's fine.

FUck no.
When fapping, its good to see a GOOD looking guy with a GOOD looking girl

Its not good to see a..
Good looking guy with a HORRIBLE looking girl
or a Good looking girl with a HORRIBLE looking guy.

The purpose of a fap manga is for the reader to fap.
I'm pretty sure my boner became jelly when oversized people stumble into the manga.

If the Girl is worth it, then its worth it. it dosent matter who is doing her

As of late I'm not into NTR, but in any case, I hate the disgusting old guy or the random ass punk, they are just a complete turn off, especially in the Doujinshi or Hentai where they feel the need to pan to their face or you see there belly jutting past his short dick. Although I guess the fit the bill when it comes to NTR/Master/slave things, but I'd just prefer a similarly aged guy, decent looking to be banging a girl.

I think the reason why it's arousing is because it contradicts reality. All of us or most of us at least read/watch hentai because it's something that doesnt happen in real life and master and slave/mind breaks tend to be rare if not none at all.

Don't really care, as when it is a fat guy it's because the girl has to do it against her own will so it's usually funny.

It's a turn off though, gotta admit.

Just like the other users said, I don't mind it as long as it is hot or something like that. To add up, the sex scene shouldn't get overboard. That's from my own opinion. Also, I can still remember some doujins that are like that.

Kayumidome 5 Houme
Tohsaka-ke no Kakei Jijou 7

I think these doujins are still hot even though there are old men fucking them. However, I still prefer the normal ones rather than these.

Same as Harontiar, it doesn't really matter so as long as the girl gets separated from her lover for good, its just sad to see such things.

I voted on the last one and I sometimes find the sex scenes hot too.

I would rather younger men, yes, but even if they are not, I will probably still read the doujin.

I was going to suggest that manga if no one else did. It's a very good Ecchi manga, on top of bringing some sanity into an otherwise (I believe) slightly crazy genre. Not a big fan of most mind-break, NTR stuff. I mean, to each his own, just not my favorite.

Strangely enough, my tolerance for this kind of stuff in real life is far greater than my tolerance for it in H (that is none). Especially when the doujin is based off of a manga/anime that I love or on a character that I have other attachments to. Frankly it's disgusting and unnecessary in my opinion, and I try to avoid NTR/ hard rape/ mind slave hentai. Though, that being sad, I do like BDSM and mild 'rape' as long as it's between two lovers.

I also like when the female character gives in and becomes broken. But never the less I think the different types of "men" that brakes the female in also changes how we see the female. If she is broken by an average joe, It feels different then if she was broken by a thug or by a dog, or a tentacle monster, ya know? Let the fat old men in doujins rape girls, If it disgusts you find a different guy rape a girl. Simple as that.

I don't really enjoy straightforward mind break/rape stories since they tend to be pretty bland.

Sometimes I can wring some guilty pleasure from such works, when the writer manages to either stoke my class rage (so every once in a blue moon I empathize with the perpetrators) or by managing to portray the victim as something more than disposable sexual object. In the later case the story ends either on a positive or a negative tone... and I read these for story, since a good character portrayal can give catharsis, even if the story is tragedy and ends with the downfall of the victim.

These are rare though, since most of time we're treated to the age old formula of the girl denying their sexuality, while secretly still enjoying what's happening them, finally breaking down and abandoning reason for sluttyness.

However there's a special kind of NTR/Submission story type that I *do* like on a regular basis: Those where the victim and perpetrator change roles, where the tables are turned and suddenly it's the perp who's being forced into a situation... sometimes there are even multiple twists, where both sides are not what they initially seemed.

I also vastly prefer these "twist" stories, because the girls in them tend to reclaim their sexuality as something of their own and occasionally even wield it as tool to get what they what (...or are just plainly willing to get down and dirty without giving up their selves in the process).