ChrisBRosado123 wrote...
Xammie wrote...
then what the hell will prompt them to come back?
If you listened to the podcast you should know we're not just getting books. FAKKU will also be doing a simul-pub style localization of Wani's actual periodical magazines (e.x. Comic Kairakuten). I don't know what their model is for this content but I hope it's a reasonably priced subscription service in which we can read from these as much as we please.
Xammie wrote...
Imagine if YouTube was to go all paid content tonight, literally almost everyone using YouTube wouldn't use it anymore (or rather couldn't).
The fundamental difference with YouTube is that they have completely legal content to offer. FAKKU hasn't for the longest time. Please consider the fact that in order for FAKKU to make a publishing deal with Wani, they also have to comply with Wani's terms (whatever those are). You might want to make the case that ad-revenue is more than enough to drive FAKKU and compensate our favorite hentai artists. But if Wani doesn't approve of that, we're dead in the water.
You also have to take into account the fact that YouTube attempts to power all of what they're doing with
only ad-revenue. Consider the fact that YouTube had negative profits for most of its lifetime with Google.
I'm also concerned about this matter. I question whether the community is ready for this drastic change. I don't think it would be good for any of us if the majority of users flee because they're not ready to accept this.
But on the other hand moving forward is a pretty good thing. I really want to stress the fact that these guys have been doing exceptional work since day one. Every book release I've bought has met or exceeded expectations. I got what I paid for and the team has been working hard to make sure that everything stays up to par. I have yet to be disappointed with their publishing. Best of all I know I'm supporting these awesome artists and it really pleases me that they've shown approval of FAKKU's quality.
Lastly I want to touch on this idea of "free" that's a constant talking point in this discussion. None of this was ever "free". Maybe you didn't pay for anything at any point in time but that didn't make it "free" (and of course I'm not talking to you specifically OP). Whether or not you accept this as a fact, FAKKU provided a service by hosting a centralized site to enjoy hentai. Unfortunately none of that money made it back to the creators of the manga and doujinshi ... and really how could it have? That would simply be a mess. For the longest time FAKKU lived off ad revenue and of course we don't know how much or how little it was. But ultimately the bills need to get paid. Server costs, bandwidth costs, running a store, paying employees, all of this costs money. Even if the website is ad-supported and you don't have to pay anything yourself, you can't call that being truly "free". Someone, somewhere has to click on that ad and
pay for something. If that doesn't happen, then where's the money going to come from? The beauty of ad driven revenue is that YOU can choose not to pay if you don't want to. As long as someone else pays the bills you can enjoy things as you always did. I don't consider this a bad thing in any way, but I think people need to realize that there's more to the story. And I really think they don't.
Unfortunately I was unable to find the article and research papers that I was going to use to back up my argument so unfortunately a unplanned comment will have to suffice.
In response to your first point the publication of magazines will probably be pretty amazing, however depending upon the police structure and format and whether or not we are allowed to preview inside of the magazine could end up being a large amount of waste for certain people depending on their tastes. The other issue of subscription services is that they add up, some people would much rather just buy the books that they are interested in, this just speculation at the moment.
Secondly you make the point about YouTube offering completely legal content, this is untrue as if it wasn't the case there would be no copyright takedowns, the reason Google can get away with this is because of a specific clause in copyright law that means you often cannot prosecute the site owners for -user- uploaded content as it is here. Honestly wani and others should suck it up as there are plenty of sites that do this unfortunately the admins of the site have to be completely uninvolved and not helping users in any way break the law (rip groove shark). On another note I've seen sites straight up ignore DCMA notices because they know they won't be taken to court, there is a very good reason they are referred to as letters of the bullies.
The paper I was looking for was meant to show how 89% or something of the web is driven by advertisement, however I can give a real life example of free user content driven by ads, AnimeLab (and c.roll).
AnimeLab is a simulpub anime and past series provider, it's run by Australia's largest importer of anime by far, pretty much all of it is imported by them, heck even movies are brought in by them and often dubbed by their staff, the kicker is the content is free or paid your choice, ofc paid has advantages but you can literally watch anime for only 1ad that is 15-30 seconds and no more till you finish it, with no scrubbing forward equalling ads. They advertise a huge amount of stuff, I've seen manga, movies, anime movies, jap drama, anime, even some western indie stuff, all MadMen Entertainment supported, they have established a rapport with their audience they get way enough sales to cover the costs and these adds serve only to further it. The key point however is it will be region locked, I'm thinking that the worlds largest speaking hentai site could achieve something like this. One for europe, another for Asia, Oceania, Americas and far north countries. Each region having a dedicated supplier ( they already exist) form a contract with Fakku to advertise when fakku says they can bring x views and the supplier can offer x discount. With each region getting tailored ads on a flexible platform that the supplier can easily submit to. This is all think tank stuff however.
Finally, I haven't ever been really been disappointed with Fakkus publishing services, I've really enjoyed them all and the art is quite a wonder to behold. That said I leave an some analogys as my last points (I love them).
When you go to a car dealership with the intention to buy, you get what you can afford/be loaned+savings.You don't come back for another car unless your obscenely rich, how will fakku account for this? Granted we are talking about porn but I sure know that the books I have will last me a long time. In addition I think prices will definitely have to be adjusted especially on the digital format to the demand expected, imagine if newspapers were like $15? They sure aren't art but they have a lot of ads and content subsidised by it.
Sorry for the rant, couldn't find article so I didn't fuss myself and wrote in a fairly un-sustained and poorly synthesised manner. Hope it makes a little more sense?