The Universe
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~deshi_flow~ wrote...
bullshit this belongs in IB.i think if the universe goes on forever then its possible that there is a planet like this only with little changes. for example there could be another planet where up is down, left is right, black is white or maybe even human skin is green.
interesting theory.
You belong in IB. And you're also saying something that have been said like 10 times already, even in the OP.
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@Ethil
It's just hard for me to believe that all things in that small point could possibly be anything like what we know now. The laws of physics or w/e in that single point would be vastly different than what is here now. We know that our law of physics works for most of what we see, but as we go further out and apply it on a larger scale flaws begin to appear. That's why I can't be so pleased with, "well it was already there it just is got pushed out".
@Gangsta
You didn't really say much about the topic either. Only that you followed what scientist tell you, as legitimate as that is, I understand that's probably not what you do for a living. But you just abrasively lashed out at my question. It was as productive to the conversation, as an ape blurring out sounds because you thought what I asked was "too" random to be legitimate. That's why I dismissed you, not your avatar. Although it does help.
I'm not so sure we could really detect the forces at work. On a scale as big as our universe I hardly think even 1000 years would be enough to record a reasonably explainable amount of monitored change. Unless you've heard or know of a way that people can or are doing such.
It's just hard for me to believe that all things in that small point could possibly be anything like what we know now. The laws of physics or w/e in that single point would be vastly different than what is here now. We know that our law of physics works for most of what we see, but as we go further out and apply it on a larger scale flaws begin to appear. That's why I can't be so pleased with, "well it was already there it just is got pushed out".
@Gangsta
You didn't really say much about the topic either. Only that you followed what scientist tell you, as legitimate as that is, I understand that's probably not what you do for a living. But you just abrasively lashed out at my question. It was as productive to the conversation, as an ape blurring out sounds because you thought what I asked was "too" random to be legitimate. That's why I dismissed you, not your avatar. Although it does help.
I'm not so sure we could really detect the forces at work. On a scale as big as our universe I hardly think even 1000 years would be enough to record a reasonably explainable amount of monitored change. Unless you've heard or know of a way that people can or are doing such.
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Meeks wrote...
@EthilIt's just hard for me to believe that all things in that small point could possibly be anything like what we know now. The laws of physics or w/e in that single point would be vastly different than what is here now. We know that our law of physics works for most of what we see, but as we go further out and apply it on a larger scale flaws begin to appear. That's why I can't be so pleased with, "well it was already there it just is got pushed out".
lol, it seems like you do not understand the laws of physics ruling over a Black Hole if you say that. First of all, you can not see a Black Hole, since light can not escape from it. Cuz' of the density of the matter in a Black hole, a teaspoon of the core from a small one would theoretically weight as much as Earth. Not even time exist in there because of the massive gravity. A Supermassive Black Hole, such as the ones suspected to exist at the cores of galaxies (including our own) and holds them together holds the masses of thousands of billions of solar masses.
I think that is pretty damn large scale, and I would not be surprised if all the matter existed in a similar condition before the Big Bang.
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Renovartio wrote...
jenslyn wrote...
The argument seems to be that if you do something forever then you have endless chances to see variations of existing phenomenons.there you got it ^^
but there is no such thing as forever and its impossible for humans to really grasp the concept. i mean if something has a begining then there must be an ending
all this arguement is, is hypothetical
That is true in a sense.
It is believed that the universe will keep expanding until it runs out of energy, the recontract until it becomes a spec. Then when enough potential energy is built up in the spec, it will explode, and expand in a big bang. Rise and repeat.
Yes, the "current" universe (why is it called universe any ways? universe means one turn) will end, however in actuality, its just "restarting"
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Evnyofdeath wrote...
Yes, the "current" universe (why is it called universe any ways? universe means one turn) will end, however in actuality, its just "restarting"Or so you think.
"One turn"? That was a very simple translation that I've never heard before. It's usually translated as "everything in one rotation" or "everything rotating as one" and describes the ancient Greek view of the universe, with the Earth in the middle of it and everything else rotating around it.
Another translation and what it is commonly refereed as in modern times is "The All", meaning everything we perceive to exist, all forms of matter and energy, space and time.
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Ethil wrote...
Evnyofdeath wrote...
Yes, the "current" universe (why is it called universe any ways? universe means one turn) will end, however in actuality, its just "restarting"Or so you think.
"One turn"? That was a very simple translation that I've never heard before. It's usually translated as "everything in one rotation" or "everything rotating as one" and describes the ancient Greek view of the universe, with the Earth in the middle of it and everything else rotating around it.
Another translation and what it is commonly refereed as in modern times is "The All", meaning everything we perceive to exist, all forms of matter and energy, space and time.
Yes, thats how I see it.
Eh, I was only taught that simple translation. I'm intersted in science, but not so much about that branch. I'm more into biology.
Besides, "One turn" is the literal translation, because "uni" means one, and "Verse" means turn/rotation
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Tegumi
"im always cute"
Evnyofdeath wrote...
Besides, "One turn" is the literal translation, because "uni" means one, and "Verse" means turn/rotation