[Locked] This has probably been asked before. Suicide?

Has anyone ever seriously given thought to committing suicide? I realize that it's a selfish thing, I realize that it's a cowardly thing. It's frowned upon and whatnot. But the thought crosses my mind sometimes, I am happy... and yet... I am never happy. It's hard to explain. The only reason I don't do it is because of 3 different people who I would hurt too much in the process. If I didn't have these 3 people in my life perhaps I wouldn't feel too guilty about it, but... they would be forever hurt by it and I just... I can't do that to them.

But that doesn't stop me from thinking about it. Am I a bad and selfish person for thinking about it? I really don't know how to think about this subject anymore. *sigh* :(

If you want to explore more upon the matter.
Watch Suicide Club, a japanese horror film. It shows suicide to make you not want suicide.

I have only once had thoughts of suicide. That was during the prime of my high school life and I was getting shit from a lot of people(family included). What's surprising is that since my room is practically a museum of bladed weapons and other killing objects, the thought to use them on myself only occurred that one time.

I quickly got over it though because "Why should I have to leave my life because of other people, they should go die instead" is what popped up in my head. Of course other reasons came about as I continued living but that one thought really started it all.

Basically if I was to take anything out of that is that you find reasons to live as you keep living.

On to the question of:


I wouldn't think so. It would probably surprise you(myself as well) how many people actually have considered suicide at least once in their life. I've known many people who have considered(and a few who have actually committed) suicide and I wouldn't have consider them bad people or even selfish for considering or committing. Still, I don't think suicide is necessarily the right thing to do. It is an option but I consider it as the last resort.

TL;DR, I do not believe suicide would be the appropriate solution to your predicament nor would I think any less of you for thinking that it was.

EDIT: This is my 100th post. . . how wonderful.

They say, "you mustn't live for others, but for yourself" in regards to obeying the desires and expectations of others before your own (such as parents living through a child), but when it comes to suicide "You do not only live for yourself but for everyone who cares for you"... So the contradiction between the 2 have been troubling me of late. I can't say either is any more of a valid argument than the other, and I think the argument that ignores the pain and scars another can collect in place for the ideals of the person is simply pretentious.

I'd say your as bad as anyone one else who has a thought/decision that prioritizes themselves, such as, "what should I do today?". You should also remember, thoughts and actions are very different. Thoughts do not directly affect the "real world" (by basic definition), on their own. I can contemplate on the American political system, "money" in it to be exact, but that doesn't affect how it declines in efficiency, for example.

Our brain is complex, we have hundreds of thoughts per minute, and entertain many types of ideas and contemplations. While this may be a big assumptions, I will easily state that everyone has contemplated it before, may not have realized, but all thoughts are not always apparent to the conscious mind.

For me, it's my mother and my friend... I've had a growing interest in observing humanity and the art we create... "fictional stories in the form of games/novels/manga/movies/tv shows/anime" and "scientific wonder/discovery" to be exact. But the lost of my mother, at this point, would probably take away all my greatest inhibitions. So your not alone, in your train of thought.

I really don't think anyone can say that there is a universal "right and wrong" way to think about the subject. You can collect information and opinions, but in the end, you have to craft your own opinions and desires of the world you live in and the continuing existence of your life. I won't lie, there is a lot more crap and filth in this world then there is, even decent... Being bad is so much easier than being good for people... But it is always possible to find value somewhere in this world, if your willing to look. Rather that value is enough to keep you wanting to stay, is another thing...

I'll trow this in, since the beginning of the previous paragraph sorta went into that direction, while greatly limited, we do have some bit of control of our lives, and while the process may be slow, we can change the things around us through dedication, willpower, and luck.

As you can see... I've contemplated a lot of crap in my spare time...

ill admit that I use to have thoughts like that and pretty frequently too. Im not really sure what advice to give, all I really did was just progressively look at life in a new way and found things that I loved to do. however I realize that for others that it isnt that easy for them, just remember that thoughts of suicide are not strange, everyone has them at one point.

Please use existing thread on this subject, thanks.