TSA regulations and profiling

@Fiery_penguin_of_doom:

I agree with a lot of things you say, but in one instance I must strongly disagree with you: Fort Hood was the very opposite of what you're stating.
You won't find that in the mainstream journalism though since the truth of the matter has been practically "wiped" from all records. The reason?

It was in large part the Army's fault. Hassan wasn't "cuddled" or "PC handled". In fact the opposite was happening: has was called a diry arab, for his religious views (which were *NOT* extreme, the poor fucker just happened to be muslim) he was ostracized by his peers. We're talking about an officer. When enlisted men are badmouthing you that's a terrible hit to your system. You should be two notches below god and treated with respect. (He spent YEARS earning that rank).

So what did he do?

He went crazy at the drop of a hat... err... no. He asked for a discharge. He was fed up with the Army and didn't want to go to Iraq 'cause the war disgusted him. So he was disgruntled and then he turned to Jihad? No. He hired a lawyer and tried to settle in court. He even offered to pay back the tuition the Army payed him. He was practically begging them to let him go.

A terrorist would have been overjoyed to be sent to Iraq. In that position as an interpreter and officer he could have done unparalleled damage to the "invaders".

This wasn't a terrorist.
This was a man going postal.

Read more here, including how the corporate media tried to cover up the initial reports and deny any knowledge of Hassan's pleas and struggle with the unrelenting and abusive military:

http://exiledonline.com/scrubbing-major-hasan-the-strange-silly-media-rewrite-of-the-fort-hood-shooting-spree/

I fundamentally disagree. Nobody can claim exemption from a security measure based on their age, race, gender or office. You don't like the measure? Abolish it completely. Hysteria calls for worthless strip-searching? Then everyone must bow to it. I have as much or as little pity for the one year old as the one hundred year old.



You'll forgive me for having assumed that this part of your post constituted "asking for it":






Oh I quite agree; which is why I'm opposed to profiling, which obviously is an arms race you can only lose. You profile against young men? They start using older women, as they do in Iraq. You profile against them too? They start using kids, like in Iraq and Israel. You profile against those too? They start using mongoloids, like in Iraq. So you screen against all Arabs, and then you get white converts (remember Reid?) trying to bomb your planes. At some point (we already are at this point, by the by, the TWL is totally useless already), your profile has become so arbitrary that you might just as well return to screening everyone.





Oh, here I quite agree, again; and it's this attitude that prevents people from even only considering a final definite solution (my point #2), because people gasp and keel over when instructed to appreciate the lessons of Mori, or inter-war Tatarstan, or similar.

So let me get this straight, the state sponsored media rewrote an event so it would look poorly on the messiah they worship instead of showing the truth which would make the military (and by association Bush) look bad? Sounds logical, make the guy you support look bad by portraying his military as being so incompetent that they allowed a Jihadist survive within their ranks. Not only that but, you come to us with a what appears to be a blog. One which I have never heard of nor had the time to investigate to see if they are a credible source or just some loon who got a hold of a computer. Anyways, I'll look into exiledonline.com and it's credibility once I get back in a few days.

@Gibs: You have a point but, something should be done. You shouldn't allow a terrorist to drop a plane out of the sky if it's possible to prevent it. All I hear is support for full body and various other forms of intrusive scans that completely and utterly violate constitutional rights. These scans specifically violate the fourth amendment of unreasonable searches and seizures as no warrants are issued. On top of that the warrants are supposed to be specific and detailed of what is to be searched and what is expected to be found.

Maybe some sort of facial recognition of known terrorist or persons of interest at the time of flight such as the counter you check your luggage in at. Facial recognition is already instituted in public areas such as sports stadium and they have been effective the last time I heard. It's an interesting thought.



A six inch packet of plastic explosives sewn into his underwear and a syringe containing acid liquid.

Edit: To clear up any misconceptions people may have had. I am not seriously supportive of profiling. I posed a question for argument and attempted to support the argument despite not agreeing with it personally (i.e. devil's advocate).

It's not a blog it fucking newspaper.
...and no they rewrote it, 'cause admitting that the Military is fucked up and that Fort Hood has a insanely high suicide rate would have been a lot better than admitting that Hassan was always a nutcase and spent 10 years pretending to be an upstanding citizen.

For the record the exile was right on a lot of things - they called the crash almost a year ahead everyone, they also called the fuck up in both Afghanistan and Iraq while everyone else was singing hyms for "taking it to the enemy"...

...and the list goes on. The reason why the exile (and other non-corporate owned), a small time publishing got this many things right is that unlike the media corps they don't have an agenda beyond telling us the truth which happens to really piss them off.

Read up on Mark Ames, Matt Tabity, John Dolan, Gary Brecher and then come back and "write them off as a blog".

I've been reading them for 5 years and so far they have the best record of any media that I'd seen.

BTW here's the old site:
http://www.exile.ru/

EDIT: Sorry. I was really ranting there. However just read the goddamn article first. It's got quotes, it's got links, it even has to use the wayback machine but it shows what has been going on. In short they have references and they show proof.

Cale is also pretty high on this case, but that's because he's been writing about workers Going Postal for years (3 years at least) and this case simply doesn't fit as a Jihadist, but as another postal case it fits all too well. However the whole going postal phenomenon is something that is - one might say intentionally - disregarded and kept out of mind in the states. A million things have been blamed in conjecture. One thing was never done: admitting that something may be wrong with America and the American people. It was always the perpetrators own little satanic deviance, it never had anything to do with their environment. Which doesn't hold up as most of these men were said to be amiable, good hearted fellows not your troubled lunatic.

Anyway I just wrote another rant. Sorry.

Just read the article and see if it makes sense. That's all I ask.

You come to us quoting some unknown newspaper written by an expatriate that some if not most of us have never heard of before and you expect us to just swallow the pill? Think about it for a while. If I came to you with a link to a website that you've never heard of. With an article written by someone you've never heard. Would you instantly believe it's a credible source? Next time, don't get so infuriated when people are dismissive in a similar situation.

I've read the article and made a note of it and withdraw my previous statements about Major Hasan. Though I remain skeptical about the situation as a whole rather than subscribe to either side. Nor does the article make me view Hasan as a victim.

I've been following them for years and while they do have some notoriety at large I'm afraid the eXile is still unknown. Taking a look and thinking about it is the most one can ask for. Maybe in the future if you find their reporting similarly persuasive - and closer to the truth than corporate propaganda - than you'd be willing to give them more creed.

Still, thank you for not dismissing them out of hand. Thank you.
...and remain skeptical. It's good to a have a critical eye.

As to Hassan: he was no "victim" in the conventional sense. He's flown of the handle and shot up his "bullies". Irregardless the responsibility of those self-same bullies in their own demise, a civilized man can't condone that.

What's really scary though is the thought the Hassan may not have had an alternative. He could take it laid down, or he could go for broke.

That's what really gets to me: that we're so set in approving the corporate slogans, the affirmation of the institution over the individual that there's no longer a legal means available to seek justice for your grievances.