U.S. Healthcare System is so fu#$ed up

Flaser, I think I get what you're saying, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

The insurance company is like the manager of a store, and the hospitals are the employees. If a customer comes into the store and gets treated rudely by an employee, the manager should be blamed as well as the employee, because he should have trained the employee better or otherwise ensured that the employee wouldn't treat customers badly. The manager is the one that pays the employee, after all, and it is the manager's responsibility to curb bad behavior and, if need be, replace employees to ensure customer satisfaction.

If an insurance company sends me to a crappy hospital, I should be able to complain to the insurance company because they're the ones that sent me there. Ideally, if sent to a crappy hospital, I would be able to drop the insurance company that sent me there, thus showing that I thought they were doing a bad job, and instead get an insurance company that would send me to a good hospital.

The employee gets chewed out, but so does the manager. After all, no matter what I do, I cannot fire the employee. Only the manager can do that.

Exactly, you got it right and I believe so did everyone else...

...except for chriton, who I believe is either a brainwashed GOP pundit or a GOP propagandist who actually believes the drivel he's spouting.

Insurance companies don't "just pay the money". They dictate which hospitals one can attend, what procedures one is eligible for and so on... in other words since they take away the person's freedom to choose all of the above, then they're responsible for all these services.

Tell me do you believe that making $200,000 makes you rich?

Just an FYI Chriton, Flaser is a proclaimed Marxist. Now you know what you just got yourself into.

I figured so, during this thread and on others you just have to read his posts to tell that. But thanks for telling me that he said it on this site. I wonder if he knows Karl Marx had a sex slave. marx

Oh shit, you said something negative about Karl Marx. Better get a helmet.

To avoid making a post without some substance. Which biography is this by the way? There are other accounts that Lenchen was a friend that worked with the engles to put the marx papers together.

Might want to source that.

What I don't get is how a man who did no manual labor in his life, and owned a sex can talk about the hardships of the working class.

I'm not sure what biography it's from.

Also Flaser I'm willing to admit that you beat me on this one. But I would rather be at an American hospital then a Canadian one. But have you heard the Marx had a sex slave?

For all I care he could've been raping midgets and drinking the blood of the virgins... what the fuck does that have to do with government policy? ...or the correctness/falseness of the theory he put together?

You're demonstrating why Republicans can't do honest academy research and/or debate: you inevitable turn to personal attacks and the other myriads of rhetoric tricks that are effective at shaping public opinion but which have no connection to the truth.

Using the very same "arguments" once could attack Upton Sinclair's works since he never worked in meat packaging and therefore he *couldn't* have written honest investigative journalism/fiction.