Ambivalent Ecstasy wrote...
I am fortunate enough to live in a temperate climate. You have honestly never seen two males fight over a mate on a nature show? They do not always kill but it happens. I mentioned you saying it was character building because you said that suffering was nature's way of making you stronger. I disagree, if you are shot once, and it hurts a lot the first time, partly due to shock, do you let yourself get shot another time to help acclimatise yourself to the pain further? If it is possible for us to avoid suffering then we should. There will be times when some suffering is unavoidable if progress is to be made, i am well aware of this. But unwarranted suffering? No.
Apparantly from what you are saying, i believe i have seen more about animals than you do. Also, please do not mix "fighting" with "killing" humans fight alot more than animals do, and we kill far much more too. Animals never kill for fun, humans do that alot. >>; Humans can go so far as to kill because of a failed relationship, etc. (this is something that needs to be changed for sure, but im just pointing out this fact to get you to understand that humans are no different from animals in this aspect).
If you are shot once you feel pain, the next time you get shot, it wont be that much of a big deal anymore (assuming you survive). Avoiding suffering is 1 way of doing things, its the coward's way. All humans are cowards, we all like to stay in our comfort zones, we do not like the thought of the possibilty of suffering, but those who dont suffer will NEVER truly succeed.
No one goes out of their way to suffer, but i am saying that suffering is like any other experience, something that can benefit you whether you like it or not.
I think when you say that I am racist toward animals you mean I am prejudiced against them, well in a way you're right. I value the lives of humans greater than those of animals, if there was a way to preserve both then i would take it. My ideal would undoubtedly benefit animals, but there is no point giving them equal rights to humans as they would not be able to use them.
I truly meant racist, since all animals are a different race as compared to humans. But this reply of yours has made this my very last reply.
I do not believe in equal rights with other animals as well, its too delusional of an ideal. No way in this world can that happen if we hope to survive, we eat to survive.
I said that humans are powerful to make a point: humans are different to animals, they have greater malevolence than animals, they have the power to do these things, that will not change, what I want to change is the willingness to do them.
Wait what? O_o
I'm sorry, but you want humans to be willing to do malevolent things? isnt that a complete contradiction to your entire argument?
I do not want to see the weak come to harm, but you're deluded yourself if you think that humans do not have more to offer the world than animals do. I am not in favor of animals being culled, or suffering in an unnecessary manner.
Never have i mentioned that humans have less to offer in the world than animals do, I have never mentioned that belief, stating this the second time: stop putting words in my mouth. On the contrary, I believe humans have a potential to offer more to the world than animals will ever do, but its currently not happening.
I have never said you were not in favor of animals being culled, or suffer for unncessary matters, so that line was rather redundant >>;
What I believe is no act, I was making a point for dramatic effect, but my beliefs remain the same. Attempting to show you that your beliefs are wrong, when I give examples; they tend to be extremes in order to help you understand my point.
Once again, i have never stated any of my beliefs in any of the previous posts other than this one, where i am revealing abit of my beliefs coz im not posting anymore after this.
Lastly, yes humans are sometimes superior in terms of speed, strength etc - but our greatest asset is our intelligence, with that we can appreciate more and create more. While animals merely exist.
speed and strenght... are you comparing this to insects? try someone your own size maybe? hell, an ant can carry 10 times it's own weight and survive a fall from a sky scraper (provided it survived the lack of air pressure first).
Speed: try out running a cheetah, a horse or even a dog O_o
Strength: try arm wrestling a gorilla, prepare to lose your arm.
intelligence: the only thing humans excel over other creatures..
Nature is a balance, humans are balanced in terms of nature, humans are skewing this balance for sure, but its not overly devastating. But I agree that humans are in total compilation, the superior race, or we wud not have been up here where we are now, but if you are talking about each individual human WITHOUT the reliance on technology, we are the weakest of any living animals that are our size.
In conclusion to these whole arguments, here is my last few words/tips/advice/evaluation/however-you-want-to-see-it:
You are conceited, and i have stated, it brings delusion and eventually, failure. I think your ideals were pure and nice but with conceit, it will never happen.
Your ideals are flawed, you do not just give a knife a person if it helps him and him stabbing you with that knife make you happy. This does not make you a saint. This is called ignorance, which in turns, harm more people than help, and you wouldn't know it. You need to know who you are helping and how to help them. If you are helping someone who can potentially be the next biggest criminal in the world, you have saved 1 life to slaughter thousands. Dont get me wrong, i never said to abandon him, but help him in a way that would change his ways. Theres so much to say in this topic but given your conceit i doubt ull take this seriously anyway so i wont waste too much time with this topic.
Lastly, do not think the human race is at all superior "sometimes" in terms of speed or strength >>; it might be your fatal mistake some day.
Also, other than small hints of my beliefs, i have NEVER stated any of my beliefs, dont think that i have, read my previous post on what i have been posting all this time. I havent even scratched the surface of my beliefs.
With that said, i bid you farewell, and good luck with your ideals.