Weapons

I totally agree with you on that. Even though i might sound little like a 'gun nut' here by advocating that everybody should have the right to bear arms, i still totally agree with you that there should be very strict rules as to who can get one.




I live in Finland and we also are almost a gunless nation without the hunting weapons people have. I get it that we usually think that "what works here, works on other countries as well" but when you look at the world you should realize pretty fast that that isn't the case.




But that is why you should not push your morals (or even advocate them) onto others if you don't even apply them to everybody. If you pick and choose your morals depending on what part of the world we are talking about, you don't really have morals then. It is a double standard and that is hypocrisy.

I totally understand that different rules and standards work in different parts of the world, but if there is a moral standard that you are supporting, it should be the same for everybody.




I understand, that is why we have to fight for our rights before the government becomes oppressive.




We need guns for something as if not even more important, self defense.




Yes, like small women who now has the real means to defend her self against a strong man.




The same way people do and regret things with everything else they get their hands on. There will always be consequences, there will always be accidents, there will always be the few who are out there to spoil everything for the rest.




Is having that scar worse than being dead?




I actually don't have a gun or even the license to use one, so i wouldn't know that.

Well my belief is not to eradicate guns, but have very strict regulations for them, but if i were to choose in a more extreme, then it would be for it to be limited to only licensed professionals.

Things are not simply "morals" but also ideals. Saying that morals have to be applicable equally to everyone follows a certain ideal, and it is not one i need to agree with, even if you find it to be hypocrisy.

How would you fight for your rights in beforehand?

It is after they become oppressive that you lose your rights after all, and neither is it a sudden change, as things don't tend to be that simple.

Self defense at a high risk and/or maybe cost.

Or a man/woman gets charmed by its power and does something unforgivable.

Of course the acts of few should not change the rights of many, but considering the amount of school shootings, and such that i hear from the US, the i am inclined to believe that there must be something they are doing wrong.

It very well might be depending on the scar.

And who those "licensed professionals" be? The Army?




Having a double standard is the very definition of the word hypocrisy. It is not my opinion of it. If you have a double standard, be it morals or ideals, you are a hypocrite.




You give the government as little power over you as possible, don't give in to your rights. When ever your government is planning to pass a law that limits your rights, you protest, you vote for politicians that are against that, so on and so fort.




The change is the fault of the people duo to their ignorance and/or passiveness.




The risk and cost of not relying on guns as self defense could be that you are raped, hurt or killed.




This is pretty vague, but yes, we are not perfect. We will make mistakes and accidents will happen. And even you said "Of course the acts of few should not change the rights of many"




Yes, maybe it is the mental health of some students that is wrong there and not the gun laws? Maybe the school culture of US, where there are lots of school shootings, is doing something wrong?

Maybe the issue of bullying should be addressed better, maybe the funding of mental health programs should be increased or maybe the mental health of students in general should be a bigger issue in US than it is now?




What? I don't understand this, what is depending on the scar?

Hunters, police, army, etc

If you want to say that, then hypocrisy is not always wrong.

And how in earth does that involve you having guns for it?

People freak out because of something and suddenly we have a lot of dead policemen?

That is hardly true.

You expect everyone in olden times to understand politics, and be completely open to an entirely different way of doing things? Seems awfully idealistic to me.

So we should let kids get guns too? They might get raped after all, and the kid and the rapist can have a little western showdown.

Let me try to make this entire discussion between the two of us simpler. You believe that guns should be available to the people with rules following it. I believe that guns should be available to civilians, but that for a person to have a gun, they have to be mentally stable, has to be made sure to keep the gun in a safe area away from kids, and that no malicious intent with the gun is found within the user. Also it should be kept away from depressed people, and especially children. Do we agree on this?

Pretty much everything, if used properly, can be considered a weapon.
Ever heard of fighting bare handed? A deadly fist fight in the end has no difference with one of the two shooting the other, dead is dead, violence is violence.

^this is correct. In order to get rid of weapons you would have to get rid of the human race or somehow completely change people's mindset. If Macgyver has taught people anything it is that you can make weapons out of complete random crap.

I don't think that weapons are a bad thing, but I think there should be stricter laws around getting guns, in America I feel that it is too easy for somebody to get a gun, and especially a weapon like a carbine, which I feel people have no use for, I personally only approve for hunting rifles for hunting, shotguns for the same reason, and military graded weaponry should stay in the army, and avoid civilian hands at all cost.

"But what if my neighbor invades my home and tries to steal everything and threaten my Family" <--- This I have heard so many times I get sick of it, if you feel that way where you live, I think it is better to just move, or talk to the police about the matter.

weapons is the one thing keeping the war to exist in this world, many weapon manufacturer dig up ridiculous amount of money from every war that wage around the world, do you think weapon is worthy enough to exist?

i have two shot guns, 1 rifle, a pistol, and a lot of knives. Wepons and hunting are a big part of my family tradition, and i love them. Im big on wepons, but i also dotn see why people are allowed to own automatic wepons. weird