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I must rant about Capcom's treatment of Megaman... X_X
As each day passes... my fear for the Blue Bomber and Co. increases. MML Legends was supposed to be the first MML game that i was to play but SOMEHOW IT GOT CANCELED (Keiji even offered to finish the game for Capcom but Capcom said NO). The ZX series had a terrible plot but it had excellent gameplay and just for that I'd love to see a third game in the series. Rumors of an MMZ anime or new game have been floating around the internet for quite a while and I WOULD GIVE ANYTHING TO SEE THAT REALIZED. Call me crazy but I love the MMZ Zero instead of the MMX Zero; both are badass but MMZ Zero's design is way better IMO. I'll be getting into the classic series this summer so we'll see about that... on to the X series. WHY HAS THERE BEEN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING SINCE X8?? DON'T EVEN TALK ABOUT COMMAND MISSION AS THAT GAME WAS UTTER CRAP. I still wanna know WHAT HAPPENED TO AXL DAMMIT. HECK I STILL WANNA KNOW HOW THE X SERIES WILL LEAD INTO THE ZERO SERIES.
Best MM series IMO would be the Zero series. The story was flawless and they gave Zero the sendoff he deserved, and the gameplay was solid. Next to that would be the X series. Network Transmission/Shooting Star can suck my balls... nah just kiddin. Those were okay games but they didn't really have that 'Megaman' feel to them, and besides... Operation Shooting Star was just a HUGE FAILURE.
As each day passes... my fear for the Blue Bomber and Co. increases. MML Legends was supposed to be the first MML game that i was to play but SOMEHOW IT GOT CANCELED (Keiji even offered to finish the game for Capcom but Capcom said NO). The ZX series had a terrible plot but it had excellent gameplay and just for that I'd love to see a third game in the series. Rumors of an MMZ anime or new game have been floating around the internet for quite a while and I WOULD GIVE ANYTHING TO SEE THAT REALIZED. Call me crazy but I love the MMZ Zero instead of the MMX Zero; both are badass but MMZ Zero's design is way better IMO. I'll be getting into the classic series this summer so we'll see about that... on to the X series. WHY HAS THERE BEEN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING SINCE X8?? DON'T EVEN TALK ABOUT COMMAND MISSION AS THAT GAME WAS UTTER CRAP. I still wanna know WHAT HAPPENED TO AXL DAMMIT. HECK I STILL WANNA KNOW HOW THE X SERIES WILL LEAD INTO THE ZERO SERIES.
Best MM series IMO would be the Zero series. The story was flawless and they gave Zero the sendoff he deserved, and the gameplay was solid. Next to that would be the X series. Network Transmission/Shooting Star can suck my balls... nah just kiddin. Those were okay games but they didn't really have that 'Megaman' feel to them, and besides... Operation Shooting Star was just a HUGE FAILURE.
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BlackShogunFox wrote...
Quote:Older IP problem has always been that. U are the type of player that wanted more innovation in one game to shows the difference between this series with the previous series and i understand that as i also sometimes hope that the game can provide something new and fresh.However u must understand that there are some players that "hated change" they wanted the game to stay close to the previous series and if some thing is changed, they will easily said the game sucks. Fire Emblem 12 with Casual mode, Sonic 2D fans vs 3D fans, Mario 2D vs 3D fans, Monster Hunter claw system and lock on system is probably the best example for this case. So it is very difficult to said which one is correct or not here.
Ok...I will tell you this much look at the Advance Wars series...It went from being a fun unrealistic story driven strategy game to a fun realistic story driven strategy game in the last recent game. What Intelligent System did right was change the tone of that series without making it noticable that the game itself was just as much the same as past entries with more playablity. I could careless if "It is a game that simulates the grittiness of war like a war game should be." That is when an identity crisis usually starts up within a series. An example would be the resident evil series and the silent hill series.
Quote:Well for game review, personally Famitsu or any other reviewer has always been bias toward big companies as they must past companies permission for giving reviews on their product.
The best way to avoid this is just to follow ur gut feeling whether the game is good or bad.
For Example: I love Infinite Space that is released by Sega for DS system as i believe the battle system and the story really hit my taste however IGN reviews said that this game is only 7/10 why? because the game need the player to learn a lot of the battle concept before being able to play the game. This shows because the reviewers taste is also different from us, some can give the marks higher while some can give it lower.
I know that. I am just saying that was the most bias review Famitsu has done in recent memory.
You know what is funny about your example get this IGN "the kings of bias reviews" reviewed Infinite Space which is published by SEGA and developed by Platinum Games. Famitsu reviewed that game also and loved it. My point? IGN is full of casual gamers if the first thing you complain about in a game is a learning curve. Now mind you Famitsu always gives Platinum high marks but here is another example.
(I hate this example)When IGN reviewed Lost Planet 2 the reviewer complained about the respawn system and how he could not stop getting hit by the big monsters. Hmm...what is wrong with his statement? Well I can tell you right now this guy did not play the game at all.
How?
Simple solution too dealing with respawns is too open up nodes around the level so you can respawn there and not at the beginning of the level. I saw the reviewer running up head strong too the creatures like he fucking was wearing a power suit like in your typical I am space marine. I aim weapon at middle of screen on targets and make things dead. That is not how you engage the creatures fight them from a distance or get close use your grappling hook on weak spots of creature and shoot while holding on for dear life (that and many other strategies).
Bottom line...It has in my humble(can't believed I typed this) opinion NOTHING too do with taste if that is the case then maybe it is the reviewer skills at playing video games that need work. I have played a variety of games and I never complain about a learning curve. Why? Simple I always anticipate one however as of late video games have become bastardized and I can already figure out the style of a game without reading a manual most of the time.
Remember taste only applies too the story of that game NOT the playability...
Thats why i said that some innovation can success however some also can easily ruin their whole franchise. Bomberman is one those that easily killed themselves with some stupid generic.... hell it is not even a bomberman.
While for reviews, yes most of them are bias but about "taste", yes taste is applied for playability and genre, not only story. Some of my friends loves football games like PES while some like FIFA. This game has nothing such as story. The thing that differenciate them is the way they played so i believe "taste" also applied for other than story.
Other example, can be given to, hmmm let me said a casual gamer. then we ask him to play megaman game which is easy for us but probably not for them. I believe they will said the game sucks as it is too difficult lol.
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About Keiji offering to finish the game, From companies perspective , thats the correct step that Capcom must take. Sad i know but if Capcom allowed Inafune to do the franchise, in the future when Inafune wanted to do new games on Megaman and Capcom does not allow them, fans reaction will be worst than this. T_T.
Well the truth is MMZ is continued from MMX6. MMX7 and MMX 8 does not even exist in the canon story of MM series.(Hell even MMX6 is not planned by Inafune at all as he planned to end X series on 5 and makes MMZ series with X being the last boss lol.) So for them not continuing the X series is not suprising for me. However there have been rumour on how Capcom wanted to reboot the series through the MMX Maverick Hunter that is release on PSP before. Lets us wait and see whether it is real or not.(Uups about MMZ anime, that is just fake news that the MM fans has been generating as they see the anime promotion video for each MMZ series. Sorry for breaking ur hope here T_T)
For MMZX i agree with u as the story is not as good as MMZ and they are now moving into Biometal and human. However there are still some loveable char for me. Prometheus and Pandora is cool lol. And also with the way the secret ending end coughThomascough seems to plan to rule the world. So i really hope that they will at least end the series once and for all.
Lastly i do hope that i will be able to see Capcom producing Megaman game that connects MMX series to MMZ series (On Elf War) as that can easily heal many of MM fans heart but seeing how Capcom act's now.... i can't hope a lot here. And also MM network series is not bad at all lol. I finished all of them and i can said i am happy that the ending ends like how Inafune wanted them to end. While for the Star series, the quality does decress compared to the previous series however it is still enjoyable game.
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Quote:I must rant about Capcom's treatment of Megaman... X_X
As each day passes... my fear for the Blue Bomber and Co. increases. MML Legends was supposed to be the first MML game that i was to play but SOMEHOW IT GOT CANCELED (Keiji even offered to finish the game for Capcom but Capcom said NO). The ZX series had a terrible plot but it had excellent gameplay and just for that I'd love to see a third game in the series. Rumors of an MMZ anime or new game have been floating around the internet for quite a while and I WOULD GIVE ANYTHING TO SEE THAT REALIZED. Call me crazy but I love the MMZ Zero instead of the MMX Zero; both are badass but MMZ Zero's design is way better IMO. I'll be getting into the classic series this summer so we'll see about that... on to the X series. WHY HAS THERE BEEN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING SINCE X8?? DON'T EVEN TALK ABOUT COMMAND MISSION AS THAT GAME WAS UTTER CRAP. I still wanna know WHAT HAPPENED TO AXL DAMMIT. HECK I STILL WANNA KNOW HOW THE X SERIES WILL LEAD INTO THE ZERO SERIES.
Best MM series IMO would be the Zero series. The story was flawless and they gave Zero the sendoff he deserved, and the gameplay was solid. Next to that would be the X series. Network Transmission/Shooting Star can suck my balls... nah just kiddin. Those were okay games but they didn't really have that 'Megaman' feel to them, and besides... Operation Shooting Star was just a HUGE FAILURE.
I do not know about you pspkiller but due too Keiji and him being indecisive about many of his projects. That is why Megaman is in the state it is in today. I mean "Keiji?" The same Keiji Inafune that helped produce that garbage ass Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun Li movie. The same Keiji that said gaming is dying in the asian market. Yeah he gets no sympathy from me if Keiji wants sympathy for all the double standards he did bofore he left Capcom. He can look in the dictionary between the word shit and syphilis.
Quote:Thats why i said that some innovation can success however some also can easily ruin their whole franchise. Bomberman is one those that easily killed themselves with some stupid generic.... hell it is not even a bomberman.
While for reviews, yes most of them are bias but about "taste", yes taste is applied for playability and genre, not only story. Some of my friends loves football games like PES while some like FIFA. This game has nothing such as story. The thing that differenciate them is the way they played so i believe "taste" also applied for other than story.
Other example, can be given to, hmmm let me said a casual gamer. then we ask him to play megaman game which is easy for us but probably not for them. I believe they will said the game sucks as it is too difficult lol.
You are gonna have to be more specific with how Bomberman killed itself...I mean if you are talking about the adventure versions I understand but it is not like Hudson did not release up to date versions of the classic overhead style of gameplay.
I still disagree taste is only applied too story...I say this because the example you used about your friends taste is petty at best I play both versions of that particular sports sim however the only way those two soccer games differ is in the publisher like the colossal failure that is EA and the somewhat but not ok Konami...I say this because the recent version of each game was a failure in certain ways which I do not want to get into detail about right now.
The other example about a casual gamer playing Megaman and complaining about the difficulty is trivial at best because I got my ass handed too me plenty of time and I never gave up. Look the goal of a video game is simple get points or lose points win or lose live or die if any video game enthusiats worth their salt have a problem with this then maybe that said person does not like gaming that much.
As each day passes... my fear for the Blue Bomber and Co. increases. MML Legends was supposed to be the first MML game that i was to play but SOMEHOW IT GOT CANCELED (Keiji even offered to finish the game for Capcom but Capcom said NO). The ZX series had a terrible plot but it had excellent gameplay and just for that I'd love to see a third game in the series. Rumors of an MMZ anime or new game have been floating around the internet for quite a while and I WOULD GIVE ANYTHING TO SEE THAT REALIZED. Call me crazy but I love the MMZ Zero instead of the MMX Zero; both are badass but MMZ Zero's design is way better IMO. I'll be getting into the classic series this summer so we'll see about that... on to the X series. WHY HAS THERE BEEN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING SINCE X8?? DON'T EVEN TALK ABOUT COMMAND MISSION AS THAT GAME WAS UTTER CRAP. I still wanna know WHAT HAPPENED TO AXL DAMMIT. HECK I STILL WANNA KNOW HOW THE X SERIES WILL LEAD INTO THE ZERO SERIES.
Best MM series IMO would be the Zero series. The story was flawless and they gave Zero the sendoff he deserved, and the gameplay was solid. Next to that would be the X series. Network Transmission/Shooting Star can suck my balls... nah just kiddin. Those were okay games but they didn't really have that 'Megaman' feel to them, and besides... Operation Shooting Star was just a HUGE FAILURE.
I do not know about you pspkiller but due too Keiji and him being indecisive about many of his projects. That is why Megaman is in the state it is in today. I mean "Keiji?" The same Keiji Inafune that helped produce that garbage ass Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun Li movie. The same Keiji that said gaming is dying in the asian market. Yeah he gets no sympathy from me if Keiji wants sympathy for all the double standards he did bofore he left Capcom. He can look in the dictionary between the word shit and syphilis.
Quote:Thats why i said that some innovation can success however some also can easily ruin their whole franchise. Bomberman is one those that easily killed themselves with some stupid generic.... hell it is not even a bomberman.
While for reviews, yes most of them are bias but about "taste", yes taste is applied for playability and genre, not only story. Some of my friends loves football games like PES while some like FIFA. This game has nothing such as story. The thing that differenciate them is the way they played so i believe "taste" also applied for other than story.
Other example, can be given to, hmmm let me said a casual gamer. then we ask him to play megaman game which is easy for us but probably not for them. I believe they will said the game sucks as it is too difficult lol.
You are gonna have to be more specific with how Bomberman killed itself...I mean if you are talking about the adventure versions I understand but it is not like Hudson did not release up to date versions of the classic overhead style of gameplay.
I still disagree taste is only applied too story...I say this because the example you used about your friends taste is petty at best I play both versions of that particular sports sim however the only way those two soccer games differ is in the publisher like the colossal failure that is EA and the somewhat but not ok Konami...I say this because the recent version of each game was a failure in certain ways which I do not want to get into detail about right now.
The other example about a casual gamer playing Megaman and complaining about the difficulty is trivial at best because I got my ass handed too me plenty of time and I never gave up. Look the goal of a video game is simple get points or lose points win or lose live or die if any video game enthusiats worth their salt have a problem with this then maybe that said person does not like gaming that much.
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Tanasinn
The Bellpepper
I gotta say, as childish/troll-worthy OP's approuch to the material is, this guy is paying attention to what's going on.
Most companies don't make the games just to make a game anymore. That one thing that makes a game really come together is missing completely. Companies make shifty choices that to them, are a way to just stay afloat after they release a copypasta game of a franchise that shouldve been made with much more care.
Excellent example: Cave (household name for bullet hell games) decides to release their past works on the xbox360. Arcade perfect and everything. Great right? Well, they decide to release more to a 'wider audience' and guess how they do it? They release games on the iPhone and IPad, the xbox360 doesn't get these arcade remakes at all despite the fact that the ios is really no place for this genre of games. What.
They single-handedly fucked over the majority of their fans in this. The games require a good deal of memory to operate properly. They even warn that the iPhone or ipad would crash in the middle of gameplay. Why did they think that was a good idea? Doesn't matter, there was money attached to it.
Most companies don't make the games just to make a game anymore. That one thing that makes a game really come together is missing completely. Companies make shifty choices that to them, are a way to just stay afloat after they release a copypasta game of a franchise that shouldve been made with much more care.
Excellent example: Cave (household name for bullet hell games) decides to release their past works on the xbox360. Arcade perfect and everything. Great right? Well, they decide to release more to a 'wider audience' and guess how they do it? They release games on the iPhone and IPad, the xbox360 doesn't get these arcade remakes at all despite the fact that the ios is really no place for this genre of games. What.
They single-handedly fucked over the majority of their fans in this. The games require a good deal of memory to operate properly. They even warn that the iPhone or ipad would crash in the middle of gameplay. Why did they think that was a good idea? Doesn't matter, there was money attached to it.
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Thanks Tanasinn, I do not understand why that company even bothered too release Cave on touch phones. It is like you said it would have done fine on Xbox Arcade but they wanted too reach a wider audience...Right...
I am one of the rare few that hates phones in any way, shape, or form. I mean half if not many of the games on touch phones are already on SEN or Xbox Arcade. That and many of the titles on touch phones are rip offs of other major franchises(not a bad thing but you get my point)so I can do without them.
To me companies are making games with DLC too make bank like a music artist features themself in as many music collaborations as possible the analogy being that the game publishers and developers nickel and dime or better yet milk the game just like these supposed musicians whore themselves onto as many projects as possible just so the can get money here and money there till it is everywhere.
Now I understand that it is a business objective too make money however it is also a business objective too have good business ethics. So ask this(once more) of the fakku community...Why should we pay sixty dollars(full price)for an incomplete game?
I am one of the rare few that hates phones in any way, shape, or form. I mean half if not many of the games on touch phones are already on SEN or Xbox Arcade. That and many of the titles on touch phones are rip offs of other major franchises(not a bad thing but you get my point)so I can do without them.
To me companies are making games with DLC too make bank like a music artist features themself in as many music collaborations as possible the analogy being that the game publishers and developers nickel and dime or better yet milk the game just like these supposed musicians whore themselves onto as many projects as possible just so the can get money here and money there till it is everywhere.
Now I understand that it is a business objective too make money however it is also a business objective too have good business ethics. So ask this(once more) of the fakku community...Why should we pay sixty dollars(full price)for an incomplete game?
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You know,Capcom did a great job on creating MVC 3 after the fans begged & begged for another sequel of the game,So therefore,Marvel vs. Capcom 3 shouldn't have won the Video Game Award on Spike TV for best fighting game of the year instead of Mortal Kombat. I mean this is so not fair! MVC 3 has all the best graphics,music,voiceovers,gameplay,& entertainment so that the fans can appeal & enjoy the game so much just like MVC 2 did,but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, Mortal Kombat (the remake) stole all it's dreams,it's glory,& yep you guess it,It's Video Game Award away from MVC 3. aaarrrrrrrrrgggghhhhhh!!! Mortal Kombat Sucks to begin with. It has a bad storyline,bad controls that you don't know or forget on how to do fatalities,some crappy music & sound & the voiceovers does not make any sense at all. Plus,It has some bad ratings to. So there you have it folks,MVC 3 Is the best fighting game of all time including UMVC 3 not Mortal Kombat. Damn you Spike's VGA,DAMN YOU STRAIGHT TO HELL!!!
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Genex_Ally_Hunter wrote...
You know,Capcom did a great job on creating MVC 3 after the fans begged & begged for another sequel of the game,So therefore,Marvel vs. Capcom 3 shouldn't have won the Video Game Award on Spike TV for best fighting game of the year instead of Mortal Kombat. I mean this is so not fair! MVC 3 has all the best graphics,music,voiceovers,gameplay,& entertainment so that the fans can appeal & enjoy the game so much just like MVC 2 did,but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, Mortal Kombat (the remake) stole all it's dreams,it's glory,& yep you guess it,It's Video Game Award away from MVC 3. aaarrrrrrrrrgggghhhhhh!!! Mortal Kombat Sucks to begin with. It has a bad storyline,bad controls that you don't know or forget on how to do fatalities,some crappy music & sound & the voiceovers does not make any sense at all. Plus,It has some bad ratings to. So there you have it folks,MVC 3 Is the best fighting game of all time including UMVC 3 not Mortal Kombat. Damn you Spike's VGA,DAMN YOU STRAIGHT TO HELL!!!I am sorry(no I am not actually)too say this but both MvC 3 and MK9 sucked hard. MvC 3 was a incomplete game that utilized horrid cel shaded graphic with high contrast that was so bright you could barely tell what the fuck was going on. That and Capcon continuiously trying to nickle and dime consumers with DLC(which I will now call PLC standing for purchased locked content that is already on the disc).
MK9 was a crappy attempt at trying too make up for the lame game that was MK4 that Midway now known as NetherRealm Studios screw up on some time ago. The game utilizes the terrible Unreal Three Engine like every fucking game this year mostly has that and the MK9 combat is very unbalanced just like MvC 3. The thing is that MK9 went out of its way too make the strongest attack in the game(when you full the bar and excute the xray attack)as simple as pressing two buttons simultaneously. The slice of shit on top of the moldy hamburger is the fact Warner Bros. own NetherRealm Studios(like I said hollywood is a big no-no for this industry).
Both titles are filled to the brim with glitches and slow combat that tries too make it seem LIKE it is fast and engaging. VGA's? Who the hell takes that show seriously? I tell ya what if someone knows of someone that finds that show too be legit. Bash them on the head with a wooden spoon...no better yet a kendo stick.
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I do not know about you pspkiller but due too Keiji and him being indecisive about many of his projects. That is why Megaman is in the state it is in today. I mean "Keiji?" The same Keiji Inafune that helped produce that garbage ass Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun Li movie. The same Keiji that said gaming is dying in the asian market. Yeah he gets no sympathy from me if Keiji wants sympathy for all the double standards he did bofore he left Capcom. He can look in the dictionary between the word shit and syphilis.
Umm Inafune is only the executive producer of that movie which means that he is not allowed to do anything with the movie story or any aspect outside of legal issues. If u want to blame fro how crappy that movie is, Blame this person: Andrzej Bartkowiak
And he does not says that gaming is dying in Asian market lol, he said that Asia's gaming company is too afraid to take risk on making new IPs which is what he really loves to do.
And Keiji being indecisive? He wanted to finished many of his games but "Capcom" is the one who does not allow him to finish the IP so the blame is on Capcom not him.
Man he created lots of great games. The Blue Bomber series, Dead Risng, Lost Planet,Onimusha 2 and Ghost Trick. So i will said that what u think of him is easily different from us.
You are gonna have to be more specific with how Bomberman killed itself...I mean if you are talking about the adventure versions I understand but it is not like Hudson did not release up to date versions of the classic overhead style of gameplay.
I still disagree taste is only applied too story...I say this because the example you used about your friends taste is petty at best I play both versions of that particular sports sim however the only way those two soccer games differ is in the publisher like the colossal failure that is EA and the somewhat but not ok Konami...I say this because the recent version of each game was a failure in certain ways which I do not want to get into detail about right now.
I still disagree taste is only applied too story...I say this because the example you used about your friends taste is petty at best I play both versions of that particular sports sim however the only way those two soccer games differ is in the publisher like the colossal failure that is EA and the somewhat but not ok Konami...I say this because the recent version of each game was a failure in certain ways which I do not want to get into detail about right now.
Well for Bombeerman, it is Bomberman Act Zero. Thats badddd. Well almost all games that is a great 2D games previously and tried to innovate by moving to 3D direction failed hard.
And for taste, ur way of knowing how one game is bad is also easily comes from ur taste toward the games like how u said PES is somewhat okay but not that good. Thats ur taste while i believe other gamers taste are more into FIFA, u can't said to them that what they are playing are junk as they love that game.
The other example about a casual gamer playing Megaman and complaining about the difficulty is trivial at best because I got my ass handed too me plenty of time and I never gave up. Look the goal of a video game is simple get points or lose points win or lose live or die if any video game enthusiats worth their salt have a problem with this then maybe that said person does not like gaming that much.
Thats why they are called casual gamer lol. They only feel that gaming is fun to kill boredom which is why i said Difficulties will be Important factor for them as they don't spend most of their time like us preparing ourselves to learn how to beat the game. They just want simple and easy game.(Which is why Ios is more for casual gamer.)
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Hmm...Keiji could have done something about it if he wanted too so I am really not trying too hear this excuse because if he cared about his IP's so much as he claimed he would have stood up but he just kept his mouth shut and did nothing until it was too late. The kicker is he in my opinion got fired. That and when he made that statement on the asian market of the video game industry it was in an issue of game informer(so pretty much I do not wanna call you a liar but...)
On the subject of soccer I stated that both games negatives outweighed their positives hence both game are garbage hell Football Manager Series(PC) is a much better soccer franchise than both FIFA and PES. Why? Simple it is a simulation of not only soccer but what it takes too MANAGE one as well.
Lol and that is why those clowns should look for entertainment elsewhere...Causals are like one of those people who get in your way when you are making dinner for everyone but these newfags take it upon themselves too make something different(Who am I kidding these punks could not make glass if sand and a heating device was provided too them...lol) for themself and ONLY themself hence the mindless self abusing taunts of them being more of a dumbass then a typical weebo that are about as intelligent on said subject matter as Mr. Knowitall from The Rocky & Bullwinkle Show. Causals are wannabes that claim not too play said matter of games alot however these bastards supercide us just like the stockholders...That said because of them the quality of OUR games are diminishing hence we the veterans of gaming will have too make our own games which I have started to do on my own. Sure it is alot of work but I will be DAMN if I just sit here idle while this clusterfuck of overall bad business ethics ruin my second favorite hobby...
On the subject of soccer I stated that both games negatives outweighed their positives hence both game are garbage hell Football Manager Series(PC) is a much better soccer franchise than both FIFA and PES. Why? Simple it is a simulation of not only soccer but what it takes too MANAGE one as well.
Lol and that is why those clowns should look for entertainment elsewhere...Causals are like one of those people who get in your way when you are making dinner for everyone but these newfags take it upon themselves too make something different(Who am I kidding these punks could not make glass if sand and a heating device was provided too them...lol) for themself and ONLY themself hence the mindless self abusing taunts of them being more of a dumbass then a typical weebo that are about as intelligent on said subject matter as Mr. Knowitall from The Rocky & Bullwinkle Show. Causals are wannabes that claim not too play said matter of games alot however these bastards supercide us just like the stockholders...That said because of them the quality of OUR games are diminishing hence we the veterans of gaming will have too make our own games which I have started to do on my own. Sure it is alot of work but I will be DAMN if I just sit here idle while this clusterfuck of overall bad business ethics ruin my second favorite hobby...