Kaimax wrote...
Like the Companies reason for making it, there are some that consider this kind of story their "cup of tea". Even Artificial Girl 3 and Rapelay HAS personality for their characters that are still present till the end of the game.
The reason is simple, some people may think Sex either forced or no, is more enjoyable if it has personality, since it can be an extension of their fantasies, that they can't do or even "rope play" with their sex partners.
I was saying there different, AG3 present personality through every type of interaction and action, while rapelay is strung together by a mass of repeatable sex scenes after introducing all the characters, granted i never beat rapelay, I figured it had no end, like a lot of there work "I play", by Illusion, seems to have.
Kaimax wrote...
and about the stories the contents and all the other things, like foods: There are different spices and ingredients used to make the food, and that same food can also has a variation in it's spicing and ingredients. So trying to debate about something that you actually don't like, is like forcing yourself to eat something that you don't like.
In by mixing ingredients they get different foods... Variation leads to different outcomes, foods.. as well as taste... I'm not sure where your getting at with this... I just hate seeing characters i like raped and hurt.
Kaimax wrote...
and one fundamental thing that you missed (@Bakapink), you never played the game AT all. and that was why I said "If you don't like it (or even try it), don't say anything at all"
I hope I said that right....>_>
umm.. I never said I had played the game in my first post
I said I dislike rape, I dislike the angle, and japan is scary, then followed with half joking.
Your response was shut up... Now its "if you haven't played the game you cant criticize"?... No, it can mean that now, back then it was purely "shut up" the whole cause of this conflict, if you had put it as chaos had it wouldn't have gone this far in the first place, you should realize I already dislike you after debating then ignoring the "post number" comments.
chaosbreak wrote...
to the best of my understanding, i've only got your first point that rape games shouldn't have characters with personality since its just/still gonna be rape after all their attempts at giving personality. >>implying the characters getting raped doesn't need personalities, which i firmly disagree. i hope nobody is thinking that these scenario writers are stupid for trying to do at least some character development on what is 'just a rape game'....
....i shall round things up by repeating (yet) again that i disagree that character personalities in rape games are unnecessary. personality is what makes the rape better. (please don't sue me). and to tie the ribbon up nicely, what is deemed as better by myself and others leads to more sales, which leads to more companies using the same techniques of injecting distinct personalities into the characters. this is natural evolution from the initial pc98 porno games, very much shaped by the market of buyers in japan.
Im not saying persona's are worthless in r*pe games, I'm saying there unnecessary after the character introduction and during the sex sequences(such as rapelay), any more past those are unnecessary for "just sex".
At this point it seems this debate wont go any further so id like to withdraw from this, you can think of it as running away cause that's what it is. I haven't heard anything that would be willing to change my line of thought and neither have I said anything that anyone can agree with, the place this is left to go is toward an argument.
My(so that no one should misunderstand me), opinion (till now has been), is that by having personalities outside the sexual content means it's more then just about sex, even if you call that "them wanting to role play", its not necessary to carry it on outside the sexual content, to wanna be a teacher, to have girls acting out more then 1 angle, to have continuing story during and outside of the sexual content is more then just sexual pleasure.
Everything else has just been personal feelings towards Kaimax, and his approaches.